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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:08 PM Feb 2019

The Pentagon Slams Its Own Humvee Replacement as Busted and Bug-Riddled

According to the Pentagon's in-house watchdog, the replacement for the U.S. military’s Humvee is in serious trouble.

The new Joint Tactical Light Vehicle (JLTV) is “not operationally suitable” because of deficiencies in “reliability, maintainability, training, manuals, crew situational awareness, and safety,” a new report says. The vehicle is so bug-ridden that it requires contractors in the field to fix problems, and is so large and loud that it's easily detectable on the battlefield.

Defects To Go Around

Back in the 1980s, the U.S. Army introduced the High Mobility Multipurpose Vehicle-the Humvee. Designed to replace Jeep-type vehicles from the WWII and Korea Era, the Humvee had a V8 diesel engine, an automatic transmission, and was considerably larger than the vehicles it replaced. Although the Humvee thrived during many years peacetime, it suffered mightily during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, when the hulking vehicle was on the receiving end of ambushes and improvised explosive device attacks. These attacks highlighted the vehicle’s lack of armor protection, particularly against buried explosives.

The Humvee’s replacement, JLTV, is a beefy ride that's even larger than the Humvee. The JLTV is designed to keep crews safe against direct fire and IED attacks while providing power for onboard systems such as jammers and tracking systems. The JLTV comes in four versions, including unarmed General Purpose and Utility/Shelter Carrier vehicles, Heavy Guns Carrier vehicles armed with Mk.19 or .50 caliber machine guns, and a Close Combat Weapons Carrier equipped with TOW anti-tank missiles.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the-pentagon-slams-its-own-humvee-replacement-as-busted-and-bug-riddled/ar-BBU4pUM?li=BBnb7Kz

Interesting. Up to this point I had heard such glowing reviews of the JLTV.

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The Pentagon Slams Its Own Humvee Replacement as Busted and Bug-Riddled (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 OP
Bring back the Jeep Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #1
The Convair B-36 Peacemaker! EX500rider Feb 2019 #2
Yup, That's the one! Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #3
The size-comparison is a B-29, not a B-17. Aristus Feb 2019 #5
Woops, you are right and the B-29 was a lot bigger then the '17 EX500rider Feb 2019 #7
Back in my day, the Jeep (made by Ford) was a uber light utility vehicle Brother Buzz Feb 2019 #4
Whatever it takes to make the rich richer! nt aka-chmeee Feb 2019 #6

EX500rider

(10,848 posts)
2. The Convair B-36 Peacemaker!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:30 PM
Feb 2019

Convair touted the B-36 as the "aluminum overcast", a so-called "long rifle" giving SAC truly global reach.

Size compared to a B-17:



Throughout its time in service, the B-36 was the subject of USAF lore, some apocryphal, some containing a grain of truth.
"If all engines function normally at full power during the pre-takeoff warm-up, the lead flight engineer will sometimes say to the Aircraft Commander (AC), 'six turning and four burning.'" Erratic reliability led to the wisecrack, 'two turning, two burning, two joking, and two smoking, with two engines not accounted for.'"

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Yup, That's the one!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:40 PM
Feb 2019

Load it up with drones and cruise missiles. The long range endurance of the thing would give it a great loiter time.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
5. The size-comparison is a B-29, not a B-17.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:55 PM
Feb 2019

Still very impressive, considering the B-29 was much larger than the B-17.

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
4. Back in my day, the Jeep (made by Ford) was a uber light utility vehicle
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:45 PM
Feb 2019

The work horse was the 5/4, a stripped down 3/4 ton Dodge four wheel pick-up with a heavy, heavy duty suspension system. That is, when the deuce and a half wasn't needed.

The eye opener is the unit price of the Joint Tactical Light Vehicle (JLTV), a whopping $433,539!!! Totally obscene in my mind.

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