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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:36 PM Feb 2019

Unclaimed $1.5B jackpot mystery: Winner died? Ticket lost?

SIMPSONVILLE, S.C. -- Nearly everyone in this small South Carolina town has a theory for the city’s billion-dollar mystery: Who won the $1.5 billion Mega Millions jackpot announced last October?

Maybe the winner was so overwhelmed upon seeing the winning numbers that she or he died on the spot? Maybe the winner is on the run from police and fears a background check? Maybe that winning ticket fell from a car visor, ended up in a trash can and is forever buried at the Twin Chimneys Landfill. Or maybe, the winner is still going on with life as usual, before quietly taking the $878 million lump sum.

With less than two months to go, the clock is ticking. Whoever won the second largest lottery in U.S. history has until 5 p.m. on April 19 to walk into the South Carolina Lottery office in Columbia with the signed ticket and claim the jackpot.

The winning ticket was sold at the KC Mart in Simpsonville sometime between Oct. 20 and the drawing at 11 p.m. on Oct. 23. Store employee Jee Patel said State Law Enforcement Division agents were waiting in the parking lot when workers came to open at 6 a.m. the next day. “We didn’t even know we sold the winner yet,” Patel said, adding agents immediately took the surveillance tapes away. “We haven’t seen them. I don’t know when we sold it or who we sold it to.”

https://www.apnews.com/978c6fa2453d44719d958bf7b1fc277b

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Unclaimed $1.5B jackpot mystery: Winner died? Ticket lost? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Feb 2019 OP
Why do state law enforcement need the tapes? roamer65 Feb 2019 #1
I don't know if that is a normal practice or not, but presumably LisaL Feb 2019 #4
Never heard of it happening before plus this is SC. roamer65 Feb 2019 #7
it's a standard operating procedure for most big lottery wins to prevent crime and fraud. TeamPooka Feb 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil Feb 2019 #12
the state wants the winner to show up so they get the tax revenue scarytomcat Feb 2019 #17
I think the store also gets a bonus if they sell a winning ticket crazycatlady Feb 2019 #22
It goes back to the states A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #37
Second largest win in history fescuerescue Feb 2019 #23
It's standard. Codeine Feb 2019 #31
What a waste! smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #2
A cynic could believe the ticket was never sold. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #3
+10000000000 angrychair Feb 2019 #6
The pot got too big? Progressive Jones Feb 2019 #8
It's gambling. No chance of anything untoward happening here. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #9
That is absolutely what I think cbdo2007 Feb 2019 #10
Are you serious? nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #13
Yep FakeNoose Feb 2019 #15
Bingo! Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #16
MegaMillions is a multi-state lottery. Codeine Feb 2019 #32
The other states benefit from an unclaimed prize. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #35
Ummmm Midnightwalk Feb 2019 #5
Sometimes people accidentally throw away their tickets Generic Brad Feb 2019 #11
The lump sum has to be collected within 30 or 60 days, don't remember which. Blue_true Feb 2019 #14
That makes me wonder... Lancero Feb 2019 #30
If I remember correctly... W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #33
Good question. Blue_true Feb 2019 #34
They'll show up at the last minute. Petosky Stone Feb 2019 #18
Wow! What kind of buggers set a 6 month ticket expiry, instead of a traditional year, like NY & NJ? TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #19
Is SC an anonymous claim state? EarthFirst Feb 2019 #20
Scary amount of conspiracy nonsense in this thread Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #21
Scary amount of conspiracy nonsense in this thread left-of-center2012 Feb 2019 #25
We have our own obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2019 #27
Amen jberryhill Feb 2019 #28
It's possib the ticket holder has been advised to wait till April 16th A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #24
Winner died? Ticket lost? No it's me I just don't need it ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #26
Will store owner ever get surveillance tapes back? Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #36
People lose track of tickets and never have them long enough to check the numbers SoCalDem Feb 2019 #38
Yep DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #39
For a much publicized lottery prize of that size, a ticket wouldn't get oasis Feb 2019 #40

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
1. Why do state law enforcement need the tapes?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:41 PM
Feb 2019

Something sounds fishy on this one. Was the person killed so the states can pocket the money?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
4. I don't know if that is a normal practice or not, but presumably
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:44 PM
Feb 2019

the tapes will help to verify that the person who comes forward (if that person comes forward) is indeed the one who bought that ticket.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
7. Never heard of it happening before plus this is SC.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:56 PM
Feb 2019

There needs to be an independent investigation.

Response to roamer65 (Reply #1)

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
17. the state wants the winner to show up so they get the tax revenue
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:23 PM
Feb 2019

if it is unclaimed, money goes back to the lotto

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
37. It goes back to the states
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:30 AM
Feb 2019

Unclaimed jackpots are distributed back to
The participating states and is then allocated according to the various state laws

https://www.powerball.com/faqs

What happens to unclaimed prizes?
Unclaimed prizes are kept by the lottery jurisdiction. If a Grand Prize goes unclaimed, the money must be returned to all lotteries in proportion to their sales for the draw run. The lotteries then distribute the money, based on their own jurisdiction's laws, to other lottery games or to their jurisdiction's general fund, or otherwise as required by law.
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
31. It's standard.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:35 PM
Feb 2019

My old store sold a much smaller winner (a bit over $2M) and our surveillance footage was immediately requested by state lottery folks.

Sneederbunk

(14,298 posts)
3. A cynic could believe the ticket was never sold.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:42 PM
Feb 2019

The Mart was picked as a dummy sales spot. The 1.5 Billion was to be kept by the government. The pot got too big.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
8. The pot got too big?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:59 PM
Feb 2019

The 'pot" is the money from those tickets being sold. It's not like it comes from the treasury.

Sneederbunk

(14,298 posts)
9. It's gambling. No chance of anything untoward happening here.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:05 PM
Feb 2019

The government (the house) wanted the money. It would be easy enough to publish photo of suspected purchaser. It appears the government did nothing to locate "winner" but sat on tapes instead.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
10. That is absolutely what I think
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019

As soon as I heard that the pot goes back to the States if it goes unclaimed.

FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
15. Yep
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:14 PM
Feb 2019

"The house always wins"

The ones who were in on it called a Lottery number that hadn't been purchased anywhere. Then they confiscated the video tape from the retailers before they could view it themselves. Proof disappears and so does the "winner."



 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
32. MegaMillions is a multi-state lottery.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:37 PM
Feb 2019

I don’t think the other states involved would react well to that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. The lump sum has to be collected within 30 or 60 days, don't remember which.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019

Only the annuity can be collected now. Since that is $50 million dollars per year before taxes, defaulting to that is a reasonably wise move.

I don't know why the winner has not come forward. The person could have misplaced the ticket (slipped between the car seat and hid itself), could have died or is busy with other affairs and simply has not checked the ticket. I know one thing, given the size of the winnings, waiting won't bring that person less notice, even if a larger prize is won within the next two months.

Lancero

(3,011 posts)
30. That makes me wonder...
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:29 PM
Feb 2019

If Grandma/Grandpa passed away before the draw, would the lottery ticket (if found) still be claimable by his inheritors?

W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
33. If I remember correctly...
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:51 PM
Feb 2019

...lottery tickets are bearer instruments, which means they are "negotiable instrument(s) payable to its holder, on demand or presentment, regardless of to whom it was issued originally." This means that whoever presents the ticket is entitled to its winnings -- NOT (necessarily) the person that bought the ticket in the first place.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Good question.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:53 PM
Feb 2019

Say a grandparent or parent passed away and the kids find the ticket while cleaning up the drceased's home. Several things could happen. First one of them sign it and take it to the lottery to cash it in, only to be told that the time on the store video showed that it was an elderly person that bought the winning ticket. Or they could leave the ticket unsigned, get an ethical attorney and a reporter, along with the deceased's death warrant and proof of their relationship to the dead person, then go to the lottery and see what happens. Just some ideals, I really don't know what would happen, maybe the state says tough luck and keeps the money.

 

Petosky Stone

(52 posts)
18. They'll show up at the last minute.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

Just getting their ducks in a row.

(Unlike, I guess, the "typical" winner, that jumps in, blows most of it in short order, and is soon found dead from excess debauchery.)

EarthFirst

(2,904 posts)
20. Is SC an anonymous claim state?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:00 PM
Feb 2019

Are the owner(s) required to be publicly paraded in spectacular fashion by lottery officials for publicity reasons?

Could a lawyer be working quietly to set up a reasonable LLC / estate trust to claim the proceeds to allow the claimant to remain anonymous?

A case similar to this just transpired in New York where 23 co-workers wanted to remain anonymous on a $423 million winning ticket by doing such.

I’d want to remain an anonymous claimant in such a situation...

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. Scary amount of conspiracy nonsense in this thread
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:23 PM
Feb 2019

No thank you. Lotteries benefit the house and a small random group of winners. Tickets are occasionally lost or unintentionally discarded. No reason it wouldn't happen at some point to a huge prize. More likely, the winner has been strategizing tax implications with a professional and will come forward at a late date.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
24. It's possib the ticket holder has been advised to wait till April 16th
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:47 PM
Feb 2019

There could be some tax strategies involved in waiting till then.

I thought they were waiting till after January 1st for the same reason

Or the ticket got lost. Wouldn’t be the first time.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
39. Yep
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:38 AM
Feb 2019

If I see a lottery ticket laying on the ground, I check it before tossing it in the nearest trash can, because you never know...

oasis

(49,401 posts)
40. For a much publicized lottery prize of that size, a ticket wouldn't get
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:27 AM
Feb 2019

the usual treatment by purchasers. The winner is probably living comfortably on advanced credit funding he/she recieved from a large bank.

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