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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:52 AM Feb 2019

Measles is back because states give parents too many ways to avoid vaccines

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/2/16/18223764/measles-outbreak-2019-vaccines-anti-vax

The era of religious and moral vaccine exemptions needs to end — and fast.

More than 120 people across the country, mostly small children, have been infected by the super contagious measles virus in ongoing outbreaks since January.

In New York City, the virus has been spreading since September among Orthodox Jews, some of whom reject vaccines because of unfounded safety concerns. In Washington, mistrust of health officials and pharmaceutical companies appears to be driving parents to opt out, leading to 65 cases. There are also cases in Texas, Oregon, and western and southern New York State.

These outbreaks will cost states and the federal government millions of dollars to contain. They’ll distract from other important public health programs. Most importantly, they’ll put people who can’t be immunized — newborn babies, kids with vaccine allergies — at risk.

But here’s the most frustrating part: This is all entirely avoidable. By 2000, thanks to the measles vaccine, the virus was declared eliminated in the US. It’s absurd that outbreaks have reappeared, yet there’s a single reason why: Too many states make it way too easy for parents to avoid vaccines on behalf of their kids. In other words, measles is making a comeback because of a policy failure.

Most of the people with measles right now weren’t immunized from the virus. They all live in places that permit a variety of nonmedical — religious or philosophical — exemptions from vaccines, a problem that recently caught the attention of the head of the Food and Drug Administration, Scott Gottlieb. “Some states are engaging in such wide exemptions that they’re creating the opportunity for outbreaks on a scale that is going to have national implications,” he told CNN. If “certain states continue down the path that they’re on, I think they’re going to force the hand of the federal health agencies.”



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Measles is back because states give parents too many ways to avoid vaccines (Original Post) SidDithers Feb 2019 OP
Should make it criminal neglect HopeAgain Feb 2019 #1
I agree. These parents are intentionally putting there kids health lives at risk. Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #3
It's bad enough that they put their kid's lives at risk KitSileya Feb 2019 #11
Trump is encouraging everyone to be selfish riverboatgambler Feb 2019 #2
It's more about encouraging people to be stupid than selfish. Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #4
Most of the exemptions have been around for long time. Igel Feb 2019 #6
In 1998, Wakefield published his fraudulent paper. Mariana Feb 2019 #8
It is also a lot easier to access information crazycatlady Feb 2019 #13
Thanks! Good explanation... Rhiannon12866 Feb 2019 #14
This was going on long before Trump. Mariana Feb 2019 #7
Welcome to DU riverboatgambler! smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #17
K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #5
And because we give choices, we are WhiteTara Feb 2019 #9
That is eye-opening, White Tara. brer cat Feb 2019 #10
I was just so stunned at how many WhiteTara Feb 2019 #12
You want to give more power to the individual voter, but, with dumbass decisions like this, it's not lindysalsagal Feb 2019 #15
K&R ck4829 Mar 2019 #16
If you get the measles, it ruins your imune system, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2019 #18

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. Should make it criminal neglect
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:03 AM
Feb 2019

to fail to vaccinate kids. The parens patriae doctrine has always recognized the state can require parents do what is in the child's best interests and overriden even religious positions by other groups including thr Jehovahs Witnesses and the Christian Scientists.

Buckeyeblue

(5,500 posts)
3. I agree. These parents are intentionally putting there kids health lives at risk.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:10 AM
Feb 2019

It's really a national security concern. And there is nothing in the bible that even hints that people shouldn't vaccinate.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
11. It's bad enough that they put their kid's lives at risk
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:03 PM
Feb 2019

What's worse, is that they put plenty of other people's lives at risk too. They have decided they care less about the lives of infants (too young to get the vaccine), those allergic to the vaccine, those who are immuno-compromised (people on chemotherapy, chronically ill people, people with Crohn's disease, to mention a few) and those of the elderly. These huge swathes of the population are worth less to them than their own false beliefs.

Right now, Costa Rica is having their first case of measles in 4 years - a five-year old unvaccinated French boy was brought into the country while infected, and now all those who were in contact with him, or even entered a room he was in up to two hours after he left it, are at risk. If the boy doesn't have a medical exemption, I say bill the parents for all the costs the Costa Rican health system incurs because of this. And if he infected someone, they should be allowed to sue for damages. In addition, the parents should be charged with biological terrorism if it spreads to one other individual.

2. Trump is encouraging everyone to be selfish
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:05 AM
Feb 2019

Yup, thanks to Cheeto, mothers feel justified in being selfish instead of vaccinating their kids for the good of others. This MAGA world makes me sick. We need to get back to thinking about others first before ourselves.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
6. Most of the exemptions have been around for long time.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:49 AM
Feb 2019

They were around in the '70s and '80s. I knew a lot of people who had various kinds of exemptions. They weren't always easy to get. But if you were motivated to get them, you could. But you had to document that you fell into one of the exempted categories.

They were part of the process that led to the 2000 declaration. We act like the exemptions are new. They're not. And they worked. How do we know? Because they were part of the process that got us to being declared measles free.

What changed?

Big Pharma. Or, more precisely, the attitude towards it. It became seen as evil.

"Back to nature." Anything that messes with the natural state of affairs must be wrong.

Those two, and the abolition of the horribly restrictive requirement that parents document that they fall into a "exempt class". Now all you have to do is say, "Sorry, don't think so."

Between that and the anti-vaxxers' "distrust big pharma" and the back-to-nature "distrust science" folk, it's easy to have a bunch of people who don't get their kids vaccinated and at the drop of a hat change their minds because it's not a real belief or deeply held view. It's just a passing fad. But once you've passed on the vaccinations for your kids, very seldom does the issue come up very much. The school paperwork's in place, the doctor's chart has a note in it, and that's that. Even if there is more school paperwork, it's easier than taking your kid in for vaccinations.

Some cite the cost. Most cities and states have free vaccination programs for those in poverty. And it's something you do once a year, for a limited number of years (per kid), so it's not just a huge time suck.

The West Coast led the way with liberalizing the requirements, by the way. A lot of us thought this was a bad idea. But it was deemed restrictive. This isn't MAGA. Quit using it to mean "anything I don't happen to like today."

Your freedom doesn't have to result in a government family-separation policy.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
8. In 1998, Wakefield published his fraudulent paper.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

That's what really set up the current anti-vaccine attitudes. People still believe Wakefield's crap.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
13. It is also a lot easier to access information
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:22 PM
Feb 2019

The internet is both a blessing and a curse here. It is not hard to find someone who agrees with you (on any given issue).

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
7. This was going on long before Trump.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:08 AM
Feb 2019

Wakefield published his fraudulent paper about vaccines and autism back in 1998. Even before that, there were stories that the polio vaccine caused AIDS.

WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
9. And because we give choices, we are
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:31 AM
Feb 2019

easily manipulated. Here's some astounding information in my latest Free Parking.
http://eureka.news/free-parking-67/

Measles, Facebook and Russia seem like non-sequiturs that shouldn’t be grouped in the same sentence; but horrifying enough, they all belong together.

According to the CDC, measles is the most infectious of all preventable diseases; being airborne, it can transmit with stunning efficacy each time an infected person exhales. Unlike the flu virus, which requires close proximity, the measles virus spreads over space and time.

Considered eradicated in the U.S. since 2000 because of vaccinations, WHO now fears a global comeback as measles cases have recently spiked 30% worldwide. Shockingly, they cite Russia’s worldwide vaccination disinformation campaign being spread through Facebook and other social media.

please read the rest here http://eureka.news/free-parking-67/

brer cat

(24,596 posts)
10. That is eye-opening, White Tara.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:54 PM
Feb 2019

I didn't realize the Russians were pushing the anti-vac propaganda. You do outstanding work!

WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
12. I was just so stunned at how many
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:19 PM
Feb 2019

cases there were in Ukraine. And here we are. Now I see that personal apps funnel your information to FB, so they know when you are pregnant as soon as you do. Maybe sooner? Yikes.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
15. You want to give more power to the individual voter, but, with dumbass decisions like this, it's not
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:59 AM
Feb 2019

as simple as that. What's the percentage of idiots who think the world is flat? That the sun revolves around th earth???

Not every opinion is an expert or informed one. Some people are stubbornly ignorant.

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