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Is the Sunrise Movement really being honest with us?? (Original Post) George II Feb 2019 OP
No. nt DURHAM D Feb 2019 #1
LOL people post longer video even on you tube Historic NY Feb 2019 #4
No, they are not honest. They just got busted. R B Garr Feb 2019 #2
Senator Feinstein has been a leader on eviromental issues for a long time Gothmog Feb 2019 #10
It's not doctored, we just had to edit out anything that makes her look good! Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #3
Bazinga! George II Feb 2019 #5
x1000! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #23
Well, as far as the "why", this is just a guess, but ooky Feb 2019 #36
The editing job was obviously intended to be a hatchet job on DiFi but... jcgoldie Feb 2019 #6
Then they should have said that when they were making their excuse. They also could have said.... George II Feb 2019 #8
Plus, I've seen videos longer than 2:20 many times. Being a racing fan I watched this last Saturday: George II Feb 2019 #11
No they are not honest. Very young children don't do this on their own. It's a political stunt. manor321 Feb 2019 #7
Some children do crazycatlady Feb 2019 #37
If you watch the entire video, you have a far different view Gothmog Feb 2019 #9
I watched the full vid and I had pretty much the same view. It did not help theophilus Feb 2019 #14
I have a far different view of this video Gothmog Feb 2019 #15
Their Twitter account should be suspended FakeNoose Feb 2019 #12
Source I saw said 140 seconds is the usual limit. n/t theophilus Feb 2019 #13
I believe that at one point there was a 140 character limit on Twitter. TexasTowelie Feb 2019 #29
See post #30, a LOT longer than "2 minutes". George II Feb 2019 #32
Th'length didn't matter - it showed the cult brainwashed behavior, NOT successful hit job on DiFi UTUSN Feb 2019 #16
No they are not honest, they used kids, and it makes me wonder who is really behind them... Hekate Feb 2019 #17
"TWO MINUTE NINETEEN SECOND video, longer than 2 minutes!! " melman Feb 2019 #18
OUCH! That's still 19 seconds longer than the lie that they only allow 2 minutes. George II Feb 2019 #19
Look at this, a video that's 3:10 on TWITTER. Got any comments about this one? George II Feb 2019 #30
lol melman Feb 2019 #34
My point was that Sunshine Movement posted a doctored video of only 2:19 that was intended.... George II Feb 2019 #35
Gee, that's strange, I listen to complete piano sonatas much longer than that. Somebody is not still_one Feb 2019 #20
See my post #11, a video on twitter almost 4 minutes long. George II Feb 2019 #21
++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Feb 2019 #22
From Senator Feinstein Gothmog Feb 2019 #24
"Real, meaningful climate change legislation."!!!! George II Feb 2019 #27
Twitter allows much longer vids obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #25
Earlier today I posted an example that is 3:42. That 2:20 is pure BS. George II Feb 2019 #28
No... SidDithers Feb 2019 #26
Sunrise does what gets money and attention to Sunrise. Always. Recursion Feb 2019 #31
Their goal is to undermine strong Democratic leaders. People need to ask why. yardwork Feb 2019 #33

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. LOL people post longer video even on you tube
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

in fact you-tube allows video up to 15 minutes in length. They could have link to it or made multiple postings.

[link:https://support.brightcove.com/enabling-longer-videos-youtube|]

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
2. No, they are not honest. They just got busted.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

What scam fake news. Unbelievable, and this should be investigated.

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
3. It's not doctored, we just had to edit out anything that makes her look good!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

Guys, you’ve been caught. We’ve seen the unedited video and we know you doctored it to fit your agenda. Continuing to lie isn’t going to help your cause.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
23. x1000!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 06:27 PM
Feb 2019

Caught red-handed in an ambush attempt on Senator Feintstein who actually has a good record on environmental issues. All the crap going on with the Trumpster and the GOP (none of whom haven't met an environment they couldn't/wouldn't ravage) and this group goes after a senior Democratic leader.

The question is why? And who benefits less than 2 years out from a presidential election?

I think we need to remember that disinformation/propaganda is not solely owned by the right or alt-right.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
36. Well, as far as the "why", this is just a guess, but
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:26 PM
Feb 2019

my first thought was this ambush had a "Jill Stein" kind of smell to it.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
6. The editing job was obviously intended to be a hatchet job on DiFi but...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:47 PM
Feb 2019

2 minutes and 20 seconds is in fact in the twitter guidelines:


To upload and Tweet a video via the web
Click the Tweet button.
Click Add media.
Choose a video file stored on your computer and click Open. You’ll be prompted if the video isn’t in a supported format. Maximum file size is 512MB.
In the Edit window, you can trim the length of your selected video between 1 second and 2 minutes and 20 seconds. Maximum video length is 2 minutes and 20 seconds.
Click Done when you’re finished with your edits.
Complete your message and click Tweet to share your Tweet and video.


https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-videos

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Then they should have said that when they were making their excuse. They also could have said....
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

...something to the effect "this video has been edited to comply with twitter, the full video can be found here....." That would have eliminated all of this.

They tried to get away with it, got caught, and are now making excuses.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Plus, I've seen videos longer than 2:20 many times. Being a racing fan I watched this last Saturday:
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:54 PM
Feb 2019

It's 3:42, and I've also seen videos much longer than 2:20 - how do they get away with it?


 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
7. No they are not honest. Very young children don't do this on their own. It's a political stunt.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

And stunts are fine, just use them to attack Republicans instead.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
37. Some children do
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:43 PM
Feb 2019

I worked with a 5th grader who hosted a rally for climate change. DOn't underestimate kids.

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
14. I watched the full vid and I had pretty much the same view. It did not help
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:14 PM
Feb 2019

me feel better about Senator Feinstein. She just realized, a bit, that she had dug herself quite a hole. It should have never been as bad as it was but her "politician brain" finally kicked in and she said she might vote for the GND and she might not. She might vote "present" and she might not. Hoo boy! No. It is encouraging though that at 85 she is hopeful to be around in 12 years. The kind of hope is good. She will get to tell those kids (then adults) "I told you so!" Or not.....

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
12. Their Twitter account should be suspended
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:00 PM
Feb 2019

I'm not on Twitter, but if enough people complain, something would be done.
At least I'd like to hope they would be shut down.

TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
29. I believe that at one point there was a 140 character limit on Twitter.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:37 PM
Feb 2019

It doubled about a year ago to allow 280 characters.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
16. Th'length didn't matter - it showed the cult brainwashed behavior, NOT successful hit job on DiFi
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:26 PM
Feb 2019

When the kids' (parents?) stepped in to confront DiFi, they exhibited the rigid, lockstep, robot thinking of CULT recitation.

***********What I replied in the other thread:
Those kids were not "empowered" or insightful - they were spouting brainwashed imprinted stuff
Links in other places are labeling them as "environmentalists" - they are NOT, just kids spouting what their mentors modeled for them.

* 11. Let's be real: "children" ain't equal to an old lady for debating purposes.
Somebody is using children as a ploy. The adults using them should be the ones talking to the old lady. As for FEINSTEIN's answer, it is just real that the troglodyte Repuke world we live in is NOT going to fix things in any foreseeable future. O.K., flame it out.

* 33. I'm 72 and still lack maturity and insight and life experience in different areas.
I don't equate DiFi's age with unquestioned correctness. I also don't bestow MOZART type insight on those or most children. If they don't even know the history of the old lady they are mouthing off to, that's a big disqualifier about their knowing what they are talking about. They might very well be right but I doubt they came about their views from precocious insight of their own.

* 165. No, even in this truncated version their 20-something sponsors stepped in
and preached to DiFi what they had clearly indoctrinated the kids with.

I have no disagreement with the subject of their concern but with the cult/parrot/zealot approach/attitude. At 72, I have seen many election losses from 3rd party purist zealots - named Greens, Nader, yes-MY generation of Hippies and whatever other Faddists of whatever stripe. My generation of good-dude McGOVERN took us to flaming defeat symbolized by his pandering to his supporters' animus to the military by hiding his military excellent record that might have drawn support. My generation of hippies thought we knew everything NEW and thought we could throw everything we didn't dream up out. So, AGAIN NO, children are not original thinkers to be deified. ****ON EDIT, addendum: What - not just those children, or *any* children - but rather any HUMANS - need is *HOW* to learn, with *what* to learn coming afterwards/including with their own insight after they know how. The children in that video were clearly, obviously parroting what their mentors told them. They were *not* "empowered", they were cookie cut. And this is not about those particular children because their mentors themselves don't "get" the concept of HOW to think, and probably a large majority of humans as a whole aren't either. But here's a question, instead going to browbeat an ally/DiFi, why didn't that group go find wingnuts to attempt to convert, and if browbeating doesn't work why not escalate to water boarding or the vast number of techniques that humans have used forever - futilely, if this word needs to be added. Instead, the twitter poster of the video gave themselves away with the threat for "new leadership." Yip, throw out DiFi who is at a different stage of achieving what THEY want - an earlier stage, working with the POSSIBLE - and trade her (and many of US) in for replacements who will work against what they want - THAT's the ticket!1

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
17. No they are not honest, they used kids, and it makes me wonder who is really behind them...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:28 PM
Feb 2019

However, they certainly achieved their goal in causing a flamefest here and elsewhere. I was gobsmacked to learn that my Senator is 85 years old and never saw an oilwell she didn't like. -->

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Look at this, a video that's 3:10 on TWITTER. Got any comments about this one?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:29 AM
Feb 2019

I think it's time for Sunrise Movement to issue a retraction of their lies about the doctored video and apologize to Senator Feinstein for their hatchet job on her.

Maybe change their name to Sunset Movement?


 

melman

(7,681 posts)
34. lol
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 11:59 AM
Feb 2019

You do realize this 3:10 video OMG on TWITTER doesn't prove your point, yes?

That it actually does the opposite. Because the extra minute don't make it any better.


At all.

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. My point was that Sunshine Movement posted a doctored video of only 2:19 that was intended....
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:17 PM
Feb 2019

...to make Senator Feinstein look bad. When they got exposed for posting a doctored video, they claimed that twitter had a "2 minute limit" for videos so they had to "edit" it.

That was entirely false, as you can readily see. Their reason for "editing" the video was blown out of the water. Simply put, they posted a video that attacked Senator Feinstein, got caught, and lied about the reason for the "editing".

That you're unwilling to accept that is not my problem.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
20. Gee, that's strange, I listen to complete piano sonatas much longer than that. Somebody is not
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:43 PM
Feb 2019

being honest

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Earlier today I posted an example that is 3:42. That 2:20 is pure BS.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:19 PM
Feb 2019

They thought they were going to do a hit job on Feinstein, got caught, and they lied about it. If there wasn't push back we probably never would have seen the full video.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
31. Sunrise does what gets money and attention to Sunrise. Always.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:01 AM
Feb 2019

Notice that they seemed unable to find the offices of, say, Grassley or Cornyn.

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