I just read Senator Feinstein's Green New Deal draft Resolution and I must say

[theophilus]

that it is very similar to AOC's Resolution. It does not include as much emphasis on job creation and health care, etc. It is pretty much Green without so much New Deal. Anyway,

This would be a good chance for the House and the Senate to look at both resolutions (and any others) and maybe consolidate them or something......if that is possible. Is that sort of thing ever done? Well, I know Mitch won't go for this sort of thing. Even Senator Feinstein's proposal is too strong on solutions to Climate Change to ever shake any Republican votes loose, imo.

I am grateful to AOC and the Sunrise kids for pushing this sort of discussion. I am sorry that Senator Feinstein didn't handle it better. Her "you kids get off my lawn" demeanor is garnering a lot of bad press. We will see how hard she fights for her resolution and see if she adopts any of the bigger picture reforms of the House version.

The important thing is that change will come.....one way or another.

[ismnotwasm]

1. What are you talking about? The "Get off my lawn part" I mean?

[brokephibroke]

2. Change is inevitable

On that you are 100% correct. It’s the same old story with the cons, fight change and progress. However, they always lose.

[Autumn]

3. I read them and I like both, they have some great ideas. But IMO neither will be passed.

I don't see that anyone will want to buck and upend the system. Until it's too late and by then why bother.

[wasupaloopa]

4. Do you have a link to it?

I said on the video thread, I see this as the fight between idealism and pragmatism.

We need both. New ideas and getting things done.

[leftofcool]

5. The sunrise kids were exploited and DiFi did not say get off my lawn

DiFi handled it just right. When idiot adults bring in children who have no idea how Congress works, then talks over a Senator who has been leading the charge on climate change for over 30 years, maybe it is time to tell them to take a hike.

[wasupaloopa]

8. DiFi was the only one in the discussion that was aware of both proposals.

The adults should have been more prepared. They could have said why the green new deal was better than the other bill.

But they were not aware of the other bill. They could have taught the kids how Congress works. It could have been a civics lesson also.

I think DiFi could have been a bit softer.

[enough]

12. I agree. NT

[ooky]

14. +1 the Sunrise visit was counterproductive

to our party and Feinstein handled it fine when one views the entire video and not just the Republican soundbite version.

[jalan48]

6. Change will come and it's going to be driven by necessity. Young people get it and the older

ones who want to remain in a bubble will be left behind.

[SouthernIrish]

7. The unedited version of the video is on Twitter.

It doesn't paint quite the negative picture of Sen Feinstein as the first one that was released. The first one was heavily edited.

[theophilus]

9. I hope this link works, but Google is your friend.....

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/b/5/b54a564f-f750-48b4-99fe-3608d626a1bc/19EB91A5CF1C8211EF585179F7BB0E73.2019.02.22-climate-change-resolution.pdf

[wasupaloopa]

10. I did google and all I got was the video of the kids

[sinkingfeeling]

17. Worked for me. Thanks.

[theophilus]

20. You are very welcome. n/t

[oasis]

11. DiFi has been on the right track. When malcontents learn to direct

their negative energy at her adversaries, she'll get further along in the process.

[R B Garr]

13. You should just admit that that the hit job on Feinstein

failed instead of doubling down on the Feinstein is a meanie pants nonsense. Justice Democrats got busted is all the takeaway you can possible get from this clown show. What a disgrace.

[Me.]

15. +!

[UTUSN]

16. +2

[MrsCoffee]

18. +3

[theophilus]

19. I will admit that that Senator Feinstein did a pretty good hit

job on herself. She was reportedly tired and was having a bad day. I can forgive her. I know she will come around and champion one of the Green New Deals asap. I tried to let you tell me what to think but I guess I failed. Oh, well.

[R B Garr]

21. Lying is failing, actually. If you have to resort to manipulating

children into thinking that only their provocateurs know best, then that’s just dishonest. Using children to gin up fake controversies just to fulfill some adult purity fantasies is dishonest. Justice Democrats got caught lying to children. That’s a pretty bad day.

Edit: I saw your posts last night (no longer there), and your comments about Feinstein age etc show what this is really about.

[Cha]

23. Thanks for pointing that out, RB.. they

were egregious.

[Cha]

22. Bull!

Link to tweet

[theophilus]

24. So, Mr. Hogg weighed in on Senator Feinstein's side in this? Well

I might need to change my mind. I respect his opinion. Hmmmm?

[lapucelle]

30. ...

Have a donut while you think about it.

[lapucelle]

29. Where was it reported that Feinstein "was tired and having a bad day"? N/T

[George II]

32. She has a proposal, not using the catch phrase "Green New Deal". But its sensible and practical.

[Gothmog]

25. From Senator Feinstein

Link to tweet

?s=20

[theophilus]

27. Well said. Those of us who are fearful of our climate's future will be

watching closely. Hopefully soon means soonest. There is no more time to lose now that we are speeding in the opposite direction to some sort of helpful action.

[lapucelle]

31. Did you see reports that Feinstein "was tired and having a bad day"? N/T

[jdu]

26. Time

Yes just hope it’s in time ????

[Hekate]

28. How does AOC's plan compare to DiFi's plan from ELEVEN YEARS AGO?

Asking for a friend.

[theophilus]

33. You tell me and all three of us will know.

What were the details of Senator Feinstein's plan and how much of it did she get done? Eager to learn. Time goes by so fast, doesn't it?

[ehrnst]

35. Remains to be seen if this most recent green new deal goes anywhere.

But we'll know soon. Time goes by so fast, doesn't it?

[LanternWaste]

36. It can be so difficult to research publicly available policy positions.

Even more difficult when doing so would prevent the narrative we're currently throwing at the wall.

[theophilus]

34. Oh, and now that you mention it.....

What does Senator Harris think about the GND? Do you think that she might vote on it? Interesting.....