What I believe Michael Cohen will be revealing that will finally show what a depraved immoral evil

[Pachamama]

MOFO that Donald J Trump is:

I believe that the breaking news about Jeffrey Epstein this week isn't coincidence and soon the name of Donald J Trump and Jeffrey Epstein will be linked forever and Michael Cohen will reveal that he paid off and silenced the Jane Doe and Katie Johnson who charged that both men repeatedly raped them when they were 13 years old at parties hosted by the men.

The cases were dropped before the Nov 2016 election and a status conference was scheduled in SDNY in December 2016 following the election. I do not believe that Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal are the only ones to have been paid off or threatened. I believe the Russians know about this and Donald Trump's proclivity for young girls and so does David Pecker. And Michael Cohen knows.

And soon everybody in America will know he isn't just a Motherfucker....he is a Childfucker and a sexual predator.

That's my prediction....and it might finally be enough to disgust even the most loyal Trump supporter and GOP fan....

I truly believe this about Donald J Trump....

I also believe that the Epstein case that Acosta covered up (with attorneys like Alan Derschowitz was designed to protect Trump and many others in their sexual predatory crimes). And their buddy Robert Kraft is just one of the boys club doing what they do as they always have with young girls.



https://www.scribd.com/document/326770514/Judge-Status-Conference-Order-Jane-Doe-V-Trump#from_embed

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

[gldstwmn]

1. I'm with you. The reemergence of Epstein is not a coincidence. n/t

[allgood33]

41. I remember this and the allegation that lives had been threatened that's why the suit was dropped.

What goes around comes around.

[Satch59]

2. Also with you...

This was flying under the radar before the election and was always surprised more wasn't made of it? There was that moment when one of these women/girls at the time we're going to come forward with a lawsuit and then she had death threats and stopped it... I can't imagine that Trump could survive this or any current GOP would defend him??

This could get very interesting...

[notdarkyet]

31. Like to see the evangelicals defend him. But didn't a couple hundred just get busted for molesting

The youth of their churches. Seems to happen frequently, look at the Catholics. That one seems to have no end. I’ll be damned if I let these false pretenders tell me a scumbag child molester is worthy of praise or forgiveness. It’s all so horrible and disgusting, how can anyone accept or tolerate it?

[volstork]

37. Well, they almost elected

an alleged child molester to an Alabama senate seat. Doesn’t seem to bother them at all...

[Dave Starsky]

46. Republicans are absolutely A-OK with molestation.

They think it's cool when someone can have sex with a child and through money, power, etc., get away with it. They wish they could do that.

Trump being involved with child rape would just make him even more of a hero in their eyes.

[vlyons]

3. Maybe Epstein will rat out Trump

in exchange for some leniency, if his case gets re-opened.

[dameatball]

51. I like where you are going with that, but I don't think they can re-open the case unless new victims

come forward. I'm no lawyer, I just read that a week or two ago....someplace.

[dawnie51]

4. Mr. Mueller has found out many things....

and all will be revealed, in due time and irrevocably

[Books_Tea_Alone]

5. I clearly remember that day..

It was right before the election- I came home from work a few minutes early waiting to hear the press conference at 4:00 from the girls' attorneys- either Gloria Allread or Lisa Bloom? It was abruptly cancelled due to death threats and I was stunned that the media just moved on...sigh..just like they did for the following two years..

[Amaryllis]

7. Ditto that. I remember the same, and thinking the same.

[dalton99a]

10. Yep.

[PatSeg]

12. I remember that as well

It was very disturbing that the MSM just let it go at the time. It is also disturbing that I've read comments here at DU today claiming that it was proven that the accusations were manufactured to undermine Trump's candidacy, something I'd never heard before and seriously doubt.

[Grammy23]

34. I remember it, too.

It was a BFD. (Big F’ing Deal) And then poof. It was over and gone. Everybody move along. Nothing to see here.

[malaise]

6. Holy Shit!

If you are correct, we'd all better stay away from all fans

[katmondoo]

8. If this is true then I believe we will see the end of Trump

Hoping and praying this prediction will come true

[RussBLib]

11. Speaking of that child sex ring

they accused Clinton of running in the basement of a pizza shop, perhaps that should have given us a clue.

[solara]

13. Perhaps it is even bigger than that

Maybe Epstein had a few hot young boys around too.

That might explain some things..

[FakeNoose]

14. If Cohen does know about it, would he testify to this?

I'm thinking he would only know about it if Chump had told him directly. Maybe Cohen was involved with paying off the victims (?). The whole thing is so distasteful that I cringe & shudder to even think about this.

[Ligyron]

15. Unfortunatly, more than a few will choose to disbelieve the girls.

Or, figure the little harlots were just "asking for it". After all, if those little hussies didn't enjoy it, how could it have happened "repeatedly"?

Just watch...

[pnwmom]

16. It's only one girl so far -- first known as Jane Doe, and then identified as Katie Johnson,

which might be a pseudonym.

But I agree with you. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[FailureToCommunicate]

21. The reporter, Julie Brown, on Rachel tonight suggested the case actually involves 100 or

more girls from different states and overseas. Other jurisdictions may also follow up she said.

[pnwmom]

27. I was talking about Katie Johnson, who said she was raped in NY.

Not the case involving Epstein's Florida home.

[Garrett78]

17. It's long been rumored that Trump and Epstein raped a young girl.

But I'm afraid his supporters will dismiss everything Cohen has to say.

[Pachamama]

22. Unless Cohen has Trump on tape telling Cohen to make this go away....

[Garrett78]

24. I'm not sure even that would matter to Cult45.

Nonetheless, I hope that Cohen does, in fact, have such a tape.

[BamaRefugee]

18. I'm waiting for the revelation that Trump ok'ed putting a couple of mobsters under thick concrete

during construction of one of his buildings, to grease some wheels with organized crime in the NYC construction trades.
You can't be in that business and have lily white hands, or even clean, tiny, orange hands.

[Enoki33]

26. David Cay Johnston, while discussing the possibility that Michael Cohen

has given valuable information to the SDNY relating to tRump Organization insurance fraud, mentioned one relating to a helicopter crash in which three of tRump’s executives were killed that has never been fully explained. That got me immediately thinking of heinous possibilities.

[BamaRefugee]

29. "HEINOUS POSSIBILITIES"...the name of the rock band Eric and Don Jr. were in in High School

[ChoppinBroccoli]

19. It Will Never Be Enough To Convince The Cultists

Anything short of a videotape of him doing the deed will be summarily dismissed as "fake news." And even if a videotape were produced, a healthy percentage of the cult members would swear it was doctored. It's all just a big conspiracy by the Deep State and the news media.

So I'd say that if you were hoping for some sort of smoking gun that would finally get his loyal base to turn on him, I'd say that there ain't no such animal.

Oh, and by the way, I actually think there ARE some pretty damning tapes, I think Cohen either turned them over or they were seized in the raid of his office, and I think Trump knows this (that's why they fought so hard to declare them privileged communications). And as I said above, I'd be really excited about the possibility of these tapes actually being played if not for the fact that I know good and well that the people who NEED to listen and change their minds..............WON'T.

[Ilsa]

33. The cultists will say he's a changed man,

has accepted Jesus, is a "baby christian," etc., because he's "doing God's will".

[LuvNewcastle]

45. Yes, he's been forgiven now,

his sins have been washed away. Ain't Jesus great?

[Dave Starsky]

47. It's amazing how you can just sin and sin and sin and sin...

And still be the greatest Christian ever!

I don't recall ever reading that in the Bible, but there you have it.

[LuvLoogie]

35. Their support of him isn't based on strength of character...

It is based on his willingness to fuck over the people they hate. That's it. They themselves are black souls shrouded in piety.

[jalan48]

20. That would mean Cohen is admitting he was complicit in the cover-up of the rape of a minor.

I don't think he will do this unless he's prepared to face more jail time.

[dchill]

23. I have long thought the same things...

And I'm having a hard time believing that it's all actually happening right now.

[Catherine Vincent]

25. Even if true, Trump's base will dismiss it and...

..spew but what about Clinton and the "Lolita Express"?

[lunatica]

39. Why should we care what his base does or says?

We outnumber them.

[RandySF]

28. I was thinking about this a few minutes ago.

[Alwaysna]

30. Sadly many will say the girls/women come forward only for$.

[lunatica]

40. So what?

We already know who they are. There are more of us than there are of them.

[keithbvadu2]

32. "I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002.

Jeffrey Epstein, Roy Moore and Donald Trump are going to be happy to see this precedent.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142259606

Kansas judge calls teenage girls 'aggressors' in sex abuse case and gives defendant reduced sentence

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“I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141705027

[DangerousRhythm]

42. So, 1987, the same year he visited the USSR?

That's a weird coincidence.

[volstork]

36. I guarantee that trump's

“Modeling agency” is a sex trafficking ring.

[MFM008]

38. I have believed

All along the Russians know this and the kompromat they have on maggot involves child sex/ prostitutes.
Just my "gut" feeling.

[duforsure]

43. I agree ,

And it could only be a matter of time before they learn their was payoffs to the girls, and Costa was pressured into giving them that sweetheart of a deal in exchange for his trump appointed position as Labor Sec. . This will again blow up and expose those who were involved with making this go away for trump and Epstein. Was Cohen or Pecker involved n making payoffs to cover this up before the election, and again trump intentionally and illegally not disclosing it on their campaign spending forms?

[Buckeyeblue]

44. Unless there is video the 45ers will never believe it

And even then, because they are so all-in with him, it might not matter.

[jberryhill]

48. This prediction didn't age well

[Pachamama]

49. I know....

But yesterday was only Act I of a multiple Act Play

[jberryhill]

50. So you believe Cohen lied AGAIN to Congress?

Specifically here at 3:05:58 -

?t=11158

"Were there other women paid sexual hush money by Donald Trump or his organization? Was this a standard operating practice?"

"No."

"So you're not aware of any other cases where it had taken place."

"I'm not aware of any other case that Mr. Trump paid - which brings us to Karen McDougal. He was supposed to pay. He was supposed to pay $125,000 for the life story of Karen McDougal. For whatever the reason might be, he elected not to pay it. David Pecker was very angry because there was also other monies that David expended on his behalf. Unfortunately, David never got paid back for that either."

"So David Pecker had done this in other cases of other mistresses or women."

"Other circumstances, yes. Not all of them had to do with women."

"Are you aware of anything the president has done at home or abroad which may subject him to extortion or blackmail?"

"I am not, no."

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Okay, so, you believe that Cohen was lying or otherwise being evasive to Rep. Raskin there?

Because, and perhaps you don't know the timing, the Karen McDougal payoff was long before November 4, 2018, when the "Jane Doe"/"Katie Johnson" lawsuit was withdrawn.

If there was a payoff involved, it would had to have happened on a much faster time scale than the 20 days it took to get Stormy Daniels paid - from the time the $130k figure was agreed to the time that Cohen set up the company and got the money from the home equity line of credit.

When does the next Act happen? After Cohen goes to jail?

And why is Cohen still lying about it?

[ScratchCat]

52. I thought his testimony clearly

puts an end to a bunch of theories many of us believed were likely true.

[jberryhill]

55. True belief never dies

No one on the panel brought it up, every news organization that has looked into this has come up empty-handed, the story is internally inconsistent between the CA and NY filings, a bunch of shady characters were promoting this thing initially, and, if she has been "bought off" then why is her website still up: justiceforkatie.com ?

[Pachamama]

56. Seriously?

You just took the time to write this long reply to me and asking me questions after you took the time to come to a discussion last week....

Did you sit and wait a week to reply and tell me my prediction was wrong? Seriously - you must have a lot of free time on your hands if that is what you do with your time and your thoughts....

I answered your question.....my prediction for yesterday's meeting and Cohen giving info on Trump on being with minors didn't happen yesterday - but I answered you and said this is just the first of many events to come....And yes - I believe that Trump has molested and raped girls under 18....

Now you ask me if Cohen "lied" to congress again? The answer is no - I believe he answered the questions asked of him truthfully....

Guess I missed the question where he was asked about what he knew about Trump fucking minors.....

PS: girls, teens, adolescents, minors....are not "Women"

Also - Cohen may not have known about everything or things that happened before he worked for Trump and it seems to me those questions should be asked of David Pecker and some of Trumps other lawyers....

[jberryhill]

57. There are a number of theories which Cohen's testimony precludes

And, yes, I was looking back to see how predictions fared, now that we've heard what Cohen had to say.

>PS: girls, teens, adolescents, minors....are not "Women"

Ah, okay, so Cohen talked about Daniels, McDougal, the "love child" story, but decided not to mention a child rape, on the technicality that it didn't involve "women"?

Because that is NOT something he could be extorted about? (which Cohen also denied)

>Also - Cohen may not have known about everything or things that happened before
>he worked for Trump and it seems to me those questions should be asked of David Pecker
>and some of Trumps other lawyers....

If the "Katie Johnson" lawsuit was withdrawn as a result of some sort of payoff, then that had to have happened in the first week of November 2018. That was not "before he worked for Trump".

I, too, was interested to hear what, if anything, Cohen had to say about this matter, and was specifically waiting through the hearing to see what he might say about it.

The fact that it was not even a blip on the radar, when it would have been a huge deal in late October / early November 2018 right into the run up to the election, is kind of odd.

Why would Stormy Daniels have been a five-alarm emergency requiring Cohen to use personal funds and be reimbursed later, but the "Katie Johnson" situation would have been pretty much a nothing?

It doesn't make sense.

[Pachamama]

58. Cohen mentioned that there are criminal cases being investigated that he can't talk about....

We shall see what comes my dear jberry.....maybe then things will make more sense....

Like I said - the Play isn't over yet....

[jberryhill]

59. Okay, well, you can still donate money

The lawsuit was withdrawn, but the people behind it, whomever they may be, are still happy to collect money.

Since you didn't include it in the OP, it might be helpful to remind anyone who might be reading this thread that if they truly care about this situation, then they (and you) can send all the money they can afford via the Squarespace link at this page:

www.justiceforkatie.com

It was very nice of the Trump people to threaten to kill her in order to withdraw the lawsuit, but still allow them to publish the videos and other information, and to collect money, at that website.

Although if they did buy her off, then I think saying that they threatened to kill her, instead of just going away, would have probably been a dealbreaker.

[redstatebluegirl]

53. I agree he is most likely involved in that mess.

I also feel there were abortions paid for by his "fixer". How do the evangelicals live with themselves supporting this guy with one hand and holding a bible with the other?

[Mike Nelson]

54. That will move some...

… but his base of Deplorables won't care.