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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAri Melber did it again
I'm getting sick of watching the Beat with Ari Melber on MSNBC and him giving time to Trump suckers. Tonight he had Annemarie McAvoy on who was Rick Gates' defense attorney. She is a FRIEND of Roger Stone. And Ari let her tell the world why she thinks Andrew McCabe is lying about everything he said about Trump.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,022 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)but you don't have to watch his show. He does have an annoying habit of interviewing the most biased and disreputable Trump apologists he can find, as well as looking like a clueless dork who tries unsuccessfully to look cool by interviewing rappers.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,022 posts)They need an audience to sell ads.
lame54
(35,324 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)You might want to do the same. Also, no longer watch Cuomo, Wolf, or Chuck Todd.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)very compelling.
I didn't know McAvoy was close to Stone.
manor321
(3,344 posts)He will keep on bringing on Trumpsters unless his ratings go down.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,022 posts)Baltimike
(4,148 posts)and I am more accurate for doing it
*Sometimes I watch Rachel Maddow. Sometimes.
But nothing else. I *promise* that you will be able to identify ratfucking coming as a result.
SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)Which typically presents both sides of a story or issue so the viewer can make informed decisions.
His show is not a Trump tweet or a DU thread; why are so many people here opposed to journalism?
on edit: Of course anyone is free to not watch a show if they believe it is inherently unfair or if they simply don't like it. But I am growing increasingly concerned about the number of people on this forum who want all content on their TV, especially anything on MSNBC, to present only the liberal/Democratic point of view.
I give Ari the benefit of the doubt. It makes me uncomfortable too, but I value his willingness to strive for comprehensive coverage. Watching Faux Noise is more than I can stomach, so this is the best I can do. Also, I kind of admire Aris sly ability to maintain his equipoise while rightwing creepy crawlers ooze their evil slime. They never come off well. It isnt his job to protect me from exposure to the monster.
Vidal
(642 posts)In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stones. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnt counter them in any way.
SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)My comments were more general about a trend here where people say they wont watch any show that has RW pundits. If this episode was unbalanced, as you point out, I can understand your concern.
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)The Liberal and Democratic POV, The Whole Liberal and Democratic POV, and nothing but The Liberal and Democratic POV, so help me Dog.
That's the ticket. 🤗
BigmanPigman
(51,630 posts)I had to stop cooking and google the guy. Of course he was from some "Conservative America" type group. I changed the channel and waited a long time until I was sure he was gone for good. My remote control gets quite the workout during the past two years. The "mute" button is almost worn out due to Kellyanne and Sarah Fuckubee alone.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Whose wife works with the Huckabee?
BigmanPigman
(51,630 posts)I knew his face from CNN but I guess I am not familiar with the details of his group's work and his wife since I try to avoid "that type" of BS propaganda. I know I have turned him off of CNN in the past.
tableturner
(1,684 posts).....as liars and buffoons when they speak. The more exposure they get, the better it is for our side.
Irrespective of all of that, guests of that type do add needed perspective. Again.....I don't want a lefty Fox!
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)I don't like to listen to them. My blood pressure goes up. My hand reaches for something to throw at the TV.
"The more exposure they get, the better it is for our side." Because their statements lack rationale and logic and people need to know that.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)like Jerome Corsi and Sam Nunberg and other such crackpots, and I don't know why. If the purpose is to make them look ridiculous he isn't doing a very good job of it. I don't want a liberal Fox either, but maybe they at least could invite a few GOP guests who aren't complete loons (yes, I know the majority are loons) so maybe they could at least have a somewhat rational discussion.
Vidal
(642 posts)In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stones. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnt counter them in any way.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)if they get to spit out their nonsense and hate with no light shining on the lies then FUCK THAT. That's what Faux Snooze is for.
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)What do you all think?
IMHO we're going to see more and more pressure to slant reporting to push GOP and attack all dems.
The mid-terms were a surprise. More and better voter suppression. More snide attacks on dems, esp women.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)So he gets crackpot guests like Jerome Corsi and talks like a rapper wannabe. It's kind of tiresome, IMO.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)He's aiming for a particular audience that may not exist.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I want news that has all perspectives. And for blatant lies to be challenged which CNN and NPR, at least in my opinion have been doing a better job at.
Apparently even a few of the Fox daytime guys are doing some of it. But I dont watch FOX because they show only has one perspective. If FOX ever starts being about the truth rather than Trump spin I would watch them as well.
When CNN, NPR and MSNBC start delving into the inherent challenges of Medicare for all, which they are obligated to do, all hell will break out on DU.
Vidal
(642 posts)In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stones. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnt counter them in any way.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Ari didn't push back and clarify exactly what McCabe did.
doc03
(35,378 posts)we don't need a Democratic Faux News network.
Vidal
(642 posts)In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stones. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnt counter them in any way.
doc03
(35,378 posts)every Republican guest.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)but I agree...Ari has hosted a shit shoe the last two days. He is on probation in my book. Done with both sides do it. Done with giving RWNJs a platform. Ari was owned by Matt Schlapp yesterday. It was embarrassing.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Like a prosecutor he likes nailing people down on stuff and she didn't look comfortable with the whole thing.
Vidal
(642 posts)In my opinion Ari should have disclosed the woman was a friend of Roger Stones. Also, he should have had someone there to rebut her argument, which he did not. He just let her express her opinions about McCabe, and he didnt counter them in any way.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)Bev54
(10,072 posts)I used to like Ari except for on Fridays but I have had it with him and Chris Matthews bring on the Trumpsters quoting their talking points, they are trying to be CNN when CNN ratings are lower so why would you imitate them. I quit watching CNN for that very reason so I have stopped watching Ari and Chris Matthews as well until they get their brains back.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)and saying. Better get used to seeing the opposition because there will be more of it as we get closer to the election.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Cross examination is an art and Ari got some great admissions
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Ari set up Jill Wine Banks well with his cross
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I will watch Ari tonight when I get home but I doubt that I will agree with the attacks set forth above.
Rebl2
(13,557 posts)The thing is I want the host to stand up to them and point out all the lies or questionable things they are stating.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)He has a FB presence
He has twitter presence.
Surely he also has email.
Let him know!
Light up his twitter.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)I dvr ths show every day and watch it when I get home after I watch Rachel. I saw some clips on twitter and I agree with Ari's analysis on whether a POTUS can be indicted
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It is not easy getting good coverage of legal issues and Ari does a good job.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)to watch if you just want to hear what you want to hear.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Or are there limitations to his creative and political license?
I respect his ability to dissect legal entanglements. I loathe his schoolboy fascination with rappers juxtaposed to a consequential discussions.
It seems that we were fed an early diet of dialed-in Ari; lately, it feels like he's been neutered. Sad.
agingdem
(7,859 posts)I'd tune into Fox...not going to happen ever
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)and he seems fairly credible.
kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)That said only watch msnbc occassionallyafter the 2016 I stopped watching msmbc allthe the time feeling they gave too much press to the orange maggot. Watch occasionally now.
Lonestarblue
(10,080 posts)His program and guests are just too annoying. Likewise, Chuck Todd has far too many people on who are all too willing to paint Democrats as this vast far-out crowd of left-wing nuts who want no one to work for a living and the government to give them everything.
And when Noah Rothman is on Morning Joe, I usually mute or turn off completely. He is generally clueless white and thinks white privilege is a figment of everyones imagination. What I dont understand is why MSNBC, a cable outlet with liberals as 80% or more as its viewers chooses the people they do to portray the Republican side. Im willing to listen to rational Republicans, who granted are a scarce species these days, but I hope never to see the likes of Hugh Hewitt on MSNBC. Who the hell do they think garners them all those viewer ratings? It isnt Trumps Republican deplorables who have their Stepford eyeballs glued to Fox to get their daily dose of state propaganda.
Woodycall
(259 posts)on the same level as Chuck Todd.
lilactime
(657 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)culture well, with the old school hip-hop references.
Ari's style is about trying to juxtapose disparate elements of culture (like with the "fall back" segment he does), to see how it all aligns, ie a postmodernist approach that defines Gen-X and the 80's and 90's era.
I think this is what he's trying to do with bringing on Trumpers, to get that contrast.
Don't care to hear them, but Ari often goes at them hard, while being fair.
triron
(22,022 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Some people wont care about the truth, but most folks will know shes lying. Im fine giving these liars exposure. Most people know the truth.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)Hannity for the left. Nah ...
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)He is absolutely anti-trump. Sometimes I think he interviews these folks so he can trip them up. He's an attorney so he often does a great job of interrogating (rather than interviewing). One night he got Corsi (I believe) to admit he was "telling the truth about a lie." I don't care for the shows that have that bunch on, but I've seen him use those shows against them later.
Me.
(35,454 posts)also, I'm pretty tired of him interrupting people just as they're saying something I'd like to hear. And his jokes are so lame, I guess he never heard that if you have to explain it...