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Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:22 PM Feb 2019

About Andrew McCabe's TV appearances

I have seen a number of them now.

A couple of possibilities pop into my mind as I watch:

He has created a plot and the more he tells it the more real it becomes to him. It is easy to answer questions and give a narrative when one has has so much time to do nothing but write book and tend to a lawsuit to get one's name and pension back.

~~OR~~

The guy is really the quintessential FBI agent. A softened version and amalgamation of Joe Friday, Eliot Ness, Lewis Erskine (Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.) and all the other Boy Scout straight arrow Fibbies. Well, those guys are all characters written to imply perfection in a button down white shirt and a suit to go to a ballgame.

McCabe is more flawed than they are, but I find him completely believable and not given to embellishment except to make for better readability.

I have no clue where all of this will go, but it makes it clear to me that McCabe is a truth teller.

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About Andrew McCabe's TV appearances (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 OP
The 2nd option Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #1
He is eloquent and seemingly sincere, yet restrained. All difficult given the intense scheduling hlthe2b Feb 2019 #2
The IG report is apparently central to his lawsuit against the government. Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #4
The IG report was written to a predetermined outcome set by Trump, according to McCabe... Hekate Feb 2019 #31
Or Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #3
Thought one or thought two could be exclusively true no matter about the book Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #6
He is doing incredible damage to Trump. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #5
Is he though? If Barr is in place to protect him OliverQ Feb 2019 #8
I believe Barr will not protect Trump. He will protect GOP. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #9
There is the question of those who protect Trump lunatica Feb 2019 #10
I watched four, including Nicole Wallace on MSNBC just now BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #7
Saw that. And that he ingeniously added Trumpf to an existing Counter Intel probe Cetacea Feb 2019 #13
And he knows that Mueller is giving the states a lot of cases BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #16
Yes Cetacea Feb 2019 #20
Thus the reason for packing the courts as afast as turtle can. 2naSalit Feb 2019 #37
Good point...I guess we will never see real justice for decades now. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #39
Only time will tell. 2naSalit Feb 2019 #40
I will lay any odds that McCabe's story has more truth to it than Trump's world wide wally Feb 2019 #11
We will hear more from him as his lawsuit concludes and he can speak more freely wishstar Feb 2019 #12
2nd option, but I think he has little time for Rosenstein, apart from getting there in OnDoutside Feb 2019 #14
Agree 100%, Stinky lillypaddle Feb 2019 #15
HARD and SLOW. And his cohorts. Family, funders, enablers, and puppeteers. erronis Feb 2019 #47
He' talking too much too soon,some things that I don't think should be told to the public @this time Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #17
He does seem like a strait-laced guy and his interviews are not what i expected. Mr. Sparkle Feb 2019 #18
"He has created a plot..." eleny Feb 2019 #19
That is option one. I think everyone sees option 2 (after the OR) as where we are. Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #36
Yeah eleny Feb 2019 #48
There is absolute proof that he didn't make up a plot grantcart Feb 2019 #21
trDump is a Mafioso Thug,.. you cross Donnie and don't show full and blind loyalty.... magicarpet Feb 2019 #22
The orange menace is only comfortable ginnyinWI Feb 2019 #30
I've only seen snippets except on Lawrence O'Donnell, which I have heard is the best pdsimdars Feb 2019 #23
His talk with Stephen Colbert was good 2naSalit Feb 2019 #38
He had a lengthy interview on Sunday's CBS 60 Minutes. llmart Feb 2019 #49
McCabe said his book and public speaking have been fully vetted by the FBI. Claritie Pixie Feb 2019 #24
He seems completely credible. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #25
hes Joe Friday thru and thru samnsara Feb 2019 #26
Did you see him on Nicolle Wallace today? On the panel after he left, Frank Figluzzi seemed... Hekate Feb 2019 #27
To me, he falls in 2nd category. nt iluvtennis Feb 2019 #28
I'm not shedding any tears for McCabe. ChiTownDenny Feb 2019 #29
this. this. this. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #45
Agree bluestarone Feb 2019 #32
even if he is telling the truth, its 3 years too late. fuck him. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #33
Just heard someone on Ari Melber show say, you can't trust him iluvtennis Feb 2019 #34
Matt Schlapp Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #35
Whenever someone says this I say yeah and how many times has rump lied? Yeah I'll go with the UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #46
On the plus side, he has the opportunity to rub Trump's nose procon Feb 2019 #41
Isn't McCabe's biggest blockbuster that the FBI investigated/is investigating Trump as a traitor? Hamlette Feb 2019 #42
I'm curious who is gonna write the next book about this scandal... Peter Strzok ? mitch96 Feb 2019 #43
Mixed feelings about McCabe and Comey. louseb Feb 2019 #44

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
2. He is eloquent and seemingly sincere, yet restrained. All difficult given the intense scheduling
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

he's had the past few days. He couldn't possibly be getting much sleep...

I still don't get the whole IG report that gave Trump the ammo to fire him (and thus really screw him over). I genuinely don't know what to think about that, but he seems to have convinced himself that he was in the "right" on that score... so, ???

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
4. The IG report is apparently central to his lawsuit against the government.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:33 PM
Feb 2019

He is clearly being circumspect on that point.

Hekate

(90,828 posts)
31. The IG report was written to a predetermined outcome set by Trump, according to McCabe...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:15 PM
Feb 2019

In addition, McCabe got to see the original 4-page screed written by Trump for firing Comey-- the one we already know was scotched by his handlers. In the original text, one of Trump's reasons for firing Comey was that Comey would not fire McCabe.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
6. Thought one or thought two could be exclusively true no matter about the book
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:52 PM
Feb 2019

The book is irrelevant to the truthfulness of McCabe's story

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. There is the question of those who protect Trump
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:04 PM
Feb 2019

of being accessories before AND after the fact. failure to report a crime and the ex post facto law, and aiding and abetting.

Knowledge of a crime being committed but not reporting it. Failure to report a crime after it has been committed or helping the criminal hide evidence after the crime is committed. Deliberately derailing a criminal investigation would lead to them being convicted of crimes.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
7. I watched four, including Nicole Wallace on MSNBC just now
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:56 PM
Feb 2019

and during each interview I am more certain that this person is 100% credible. Today he said that the fucking moron wrote in a 4 page "rambling statement" about why he fired Comey. It isn't the statement Rosenstein did. In it tRump said he fired Comey partly for not firing McCabe as he was instructed to do. The Donald never liked him and wanted him out from the start. This was way before any other BS reasons for firing him came about. Nicole did a good interview today.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
13. Saw that. And that he ingeniously added Trumpf to an existing Counter Intel probe
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:10 PM
Feb 2019

...making it virtually impossible for Rosenstein or anyone else to shut it down.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
16. And he knows that Mueller is giving the states a lot of cases
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:19 PM
Feb 2019

and over the years even the smallest players in this "national threat" will be investigated. That made me feel a lot better. I want all of these crooks charged and no one to get let off the hook due to the sheer number of criminals being overwhelming.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
12. We will hear more from him as his lawsuit concludes and he can speak more freely
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:10 PM
Feb 2019

I find him a very credible and admirable public servant who was doing his best and got swept up and then punished by the malignant Trump maelstrom.

He recused himself from Hillary probe until his wife's campaign ended. Then when he did take over the Hillary probe he concluded that no criminal charges should be brought against Hillary. The IG case against him centers on how he "leaked" to media the information that FBI had been investigating the Clinton Foundation. He was trying to push back against media suggestions that perhaps the FBI was going easy on Clintons by not investigating.

Then after the Comey firing McCabe repeatedly pushed Rosenstein to appoint a Special Counsel when Rosenstein was wavering and uncertain and there was no guarantee a new Trump FBI head would pursue the investigations. He revealed today that he purposely wrapped the Trump obstruction and Trump counterintelligence investigations altogether into the Trump Campaign/Russia case so it was all transferred to Mueller in a package so FBI and DOJ officials couldn't shut down the Trump-focused parts of probe.

OnDoutside

(19,973 posts)
14. 2nd option, but I think he has little time for Rosenstein, apart from getting there in
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:11 PM
Feb 2019

the end by appointing Mueller.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
15. Agree 100%, Stinky
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:16 PM
Feb 2019

Really makes me sad and mad how many innocent lives trump has ruined. I want to see him go down HARD.

erronis

(15,339 posts)
47. HARD and SLOW. And his cohorts. Family, funders, enablers, and puppeteers.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:19 PM
Feb 2019

The easy way out is for all of those people to magically disappear. Maybe helo rides or maybe dachas in a putinesqua resort.

The better way is prisons, public trials, naming names, casting the nets wide.

Eventually the solution will probably include getting money ($s and roubles/etc.) out of politics.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. He' talking too much too soon,some things that I don't think should be told to the public @this time
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

I'm guessing he's getting paid and needs the money? I'm glad to get the info, but it doesn't help Mueller's case, and it's nothing that changes anything for the public's perception, but it's giving the paranoid Trumpers "deep state" fodder, and has put Rosenstein in serious danger of all sorts of retaliation by Trump.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,949 posts)
18. He does seem like a strait-laced guy and his interviews are not what i expected.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:23 PM
Feb 2019

He always goes to the edge in interviews but he wont come out and say whether trump is guilty or not.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
19. "He has created a plot..."
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:23 PM
Feb 2019

Or he's been relating circumstances as he experienced them. The word plot suggests fiction. I'm not on that page right now.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
21. There is absolute proof that he didn't make up a plot
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:26 PM
Feb 2019

Contemporary Memos.

The guy is solid and straight arrow.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
22. trDump is a Mafioso Thug,.. you cross Donnie and don't show full and blind loyalty....
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:39 PM
Feb 2019

..... Donnie the Thug will fuck you over real good. Relentlessly and vindictively is The Donald's modus operandi when he seeks to get even for a perceived wrong done to him.

It is akin to being pushed into a meat grinder,.. nothing of substance comes out the other end but a life that is equal to ground up pulp and mush,.. he seeks to destroy and damage beyond comprehension.

trDump is a deranged sociopath empty vessel totally devoid of human compassion. The only thing that excites him is greed for obscene riches and the attainment of absolute power so his plunderings are beyond the reach of the law.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. I've only seen snippets except on Lawrence O'Donnell, which I have heard is the best
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:41 PM
Feb 2019

and I think he exemplifies the kind of person I would want engaged in the task of keeping the country safe in a non-partisan way. Great guy!

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
38. His talk with Stephen Colbert was good
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:01 PM
Feb 2019

He was able to loosen up a little, he has a sense of humor.

llmart

(15,555 posts)
49. He had a lengthy interview on Sunday's CBS 60 Minutes.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:50 PM
Feb 2019

He spelled it all out for people who may not be as involved in politics as we are here on DU. I believe him. His wife was also on and they recalled how degrading Trump was when talking about his wife and you could see McCabe was really upset about that. Trump apparently referred told McCabe his wife was a loser. Then said, "What is it like to be married to a loser?" It was pretty awful.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
24. McCabe said his book and public speaking have been fully vetted by the FBI.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:43 PM
Feb 2019

He said the process to get his book published took months.

Lonestarblue

(10,084 posts)
25. He seems completely credible.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:44 PM
Feb 2019

Nicole Wallace’s interview with him today was especially good. Given what we know about Trump and the people surrounding him, McCabe looks like a Boy Scout. Trump lies daily, and the fact that his best friends are people like Roger Stone and Tom Barrack says a lot about the illegal acts he has gotten away with his whole life. When you’re a white-collar criminal, then the job of president is just another opportunity.

Hekate

(90,828 posts)
27. Did you see him on Nicolle Wallace today? On the panel after he left, Frank Figluzzi seemed...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019

...touched by joy. I've never seen him like that -- he is always so shadowed and burdened. Today, he was lit up from within.

According to Fig, McCabe revealed something new in the green room and during the interview: that when it became evident that Trump needed to have an investigation opened into his behavior vis a vis Russia McCabe added his name to the already-existing Russia investigation that had been ongoing since before election day 2016.

In so doing, the investigation of Trump was inserted into a high level FBI operation that already had all the necessary tools in place (including wiretapping, as it happens) to go as far as necessary.

The panel placed great stress on an 8-day period in May 2017, during which McCabe stood in the breech making sure certain things got done. I have to go back and rewatch that panel, but I think it was the interval between Comey's firing and McCabe's firing that Mueller was appointed and a bunch of personnel who had been working on the investigation were transferred over to him in a separate building.

Stay tuned.

 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
29. I'm not shedding any tears for McCabe.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:12 PM
Feb 2019

Public statements from former FBI Director James Comey, as well as an internal investigation focusing on former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, have shed light on the extent to which leaks from the Bureau influenced a series of late-October decisions that damaged Hillary Clinton’s chances in the 2016 election.

Pressure from the FBI officials investigating the Clinton Foundation, who leaked their frustrations to the press, affected both Comey’s decision to make his late-October announcement that the Clinton email probe had been reopened, and according to the Department of Justice Inspector General, McCabe’s decision to publicly confirm the existence of the Clinton Foundation probe to The Wall Street Journal. Both decisions were made under a torrent of conservative criticism, from Trump himself, who called the Clinton email inquiry “rigged,” and from the conservative press, which speculated that the Bureau was deliberately going easy on Clinton.

In each case, FBI officials violated Justice Department policy against disclosing sensitive information about investigations close to an election, and in each case they did so to the disadvantage of the Democratic candidate, while the investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia remained safely confidential. In aggregate, those choices produced a series of disclosures by FBI officials that were politically damaging for Clinton, even as the Bureau held its silence about its investigation of whether the Trump campaign was aiding an influence operation carried out by a hostile foreign power.


[link:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/comey-mccabe-fbi-clinton/558200/|

iluvtennis

(19,875 posts)
34. Just heard someone on Ari Melber show say, you can't trust him
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:33 PM
Feb 2019

cuz he’s under investigation by IG and he lied to IG, so you can’t trust anything McCabe says.

I call BS.

Why didn’t one of the other talking heads bring up Trump’s constant lying and Trump can’t be be
believed.

I’m so tired of the false narrative regarding Trump.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
46. Whenever someone says this I say yeah and how many times has rump lied? Yeah I'll go with the
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:47 PM
Feb 2019

other guy thanks.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
42. Isn't McCabe's biggest blockbuster that the FBI investigated/is investigating Trump as a traitor?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019

As his interview with Colbert made clear, the Lester Holt interview was so shocking anyone in law enforcement would have investigated Trump as a spy/traitor.

Everybody at the FBI knows Russia, our sworn enemy, interfered with our elections to elect "their man" and their man goes on TV and says he fired the head of the FBI because the FBI is investigating Russia.

As McCabe says, why would a president shut down an investigation into our enemy? Of course the FBI is going to add Trump to the ongoing investigation.

When you think of it that way, its not really a bombshell. Or am I missing something?

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
43. I'm curious who is gonna write the next book about this scandal... Peter Strzok ?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:21 PM
Feb 2019

When he testified he was HOT!!! I was impressed...
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louseb

(27 posts)
44. Mixed feelings about McCabe and Comey.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:21 PM
Feb 2019

Both of them undermined HRC and helped elect Trump and now asking for fair treatment

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