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applegrove

(118,734 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:17 PM Feb 2019

The Manafort Case Proves Collusion

The Manafort Case Proves Collusion

February 14, 2019 at 12:29 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 41 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/02/14/the-manafort-case-proves-collusion/

"SNIP....

Jonathan Chait: “Here we have, in this case alone, every single element one would need to establish collusion. There was a meeting between Trump’s campaign manager and a Russian operative; the discussion of something Russia would gain from a Trump victory (a favorable Ukraine settlement); the exchange of information that would assist Russian campaign intervention (polling data that would allow Russia to target its social-media attacks). Also, they left the meeting place via separate entrances. This isn’t merely suspicious. It’s a scene from The Americans.”

“And perhaps most curious of all, you have the interest of the president. If Manafort was just running a side hustle behind Trump’s back, Trump would have little reason to care about him getting caught. Prosecutors have already charged that Manafort maintained secret contacts with the White House as recently as 2018.”

“The revelations about Manafort have dribbled out slowly enough that it’s easy to lose track of how far along they have come.”

....SNIP"

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The Manafort Case Proves Collusion (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
It absolutely proves collusion. watoos Feb 2019 #1
THE STONE INDICTMENT SHOWS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN DIRECTED COLLUSION Botany Feb 2019 #2
I heard it well put on BriWi last night: cilla4progress Feb 2019 #3
And Manafort picked Pence to be V.P. too. Botany Feb 2019 #5
We must ALWAYS volstork Feb 2019 #8
This "thing" is so big that it is almost impossible to understand Botany Feb 2019 #9
Lock them all up... spanone Feb 2019 #4
Having lived through the Nixon horrors Republican denials sound familiar. gordianot Feb 2019 #6
The assclown trumpies are playing further word games DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #7

Botany

(70,539 posts)
2. THE STONE INDICTMENT SHOWS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN DIRECTED COLLUSION
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:39 PM
Feb 2019

https://themoscowproject.org/dispatch/the-stone-indictment-shows-the-trump-campaign-directed-collusion/


Longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone has been arrested and indicted by the special counsel on seven charges, including obstruction, making false statements, and witness tampering. This is the first indictment that shows directed collusion from the top of the Trump campaign – potentially from Trump himself.

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Stone himself revealed that he communicated with then-chief executive of the Trump campaign Steve Bannon in October 2016 about the WikiLeaks dumps.

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Stone was a longtime business partner with Paul Manafort, and advocated for Trump’s selection of Manafort as his campaign manager.

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Stone was involved in more than just the email release: he was mentioned, unnamed, in the GRU indictment, which notes that the Russian officers asked Stone what he thought about a voter turnout model stolen from the DCCC. Stone replied it was “pretty standard.”

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A senior Trump campaign official was directed to ask Stone about WikiLeaks “after the July 22, 2016 release of stolen DNC emails.” By this time, the Trump campaign had reason to strongly suspect that WikiLeaks was linked to Russia, and a month later, they knew for certain.

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It has always been clear that Trump ran the Trump campaign—he was completely in control of his campaign team. The Stone indictment is the latest in a long string of indictments linked to Trump campaign associates, but it is the first to show such a clear top-down direction of collusive activity.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
3. I heard it well put on BriWi last night:
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

Consider that Manafort HIMSELF is the Russian agent. trump coordinating with Manafort = collusion. Doesn't have to be trump and a Russian per se.

volstork

(5,403 posts)
8. We must ALWAYS
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:57 PM
Feb 2019

remember this. It is critical to saving the Republic. That weasel should never be president...

Botany

(70,539 posts)
9. This "thing" is so big that it is almost impossible to understand
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 11:25 PM
Feb 2019

It is global, multinational, criminal, and "they" used media, social media platforms, and
psychological targeted misinformation to achieve their coup.

30% of Americans were pissed off about "the NFL kneeling issue" and it turned out
that in St. Petersburg, Russia web sites that were being viewed in America stoked
old white American's anger at those ungrateful n*****s football players.

The upcoming trials will be as important to saving democracy the Nuremberg were
after WW II.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
6. Having lived through the Nixon horrors Republican denials sound familiar.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

Just before Nixon was finally crashed and some Republicans reversed their position. The financial poison and wide spread guilt seems much more severe this time besides the fact foreign collusion is involved this time around. This is an epic mess.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
7. The assclown trumpies are playing further word games
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:19 PM
Feb 2019

There is no "direct" collusion?

Collusion by definition is indirect.

Collusion is a BS charge. The charges are CONSPIRACY and TREASON.

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