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Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:21 PM Feb 2019

Interesting Twitter thread on Don Jr, blocked call, Lorber, DJT, Russian media coverage.

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Scott Stedman
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Scott Stedman Retweeted J

Very interesting point here. Trump brags that the Trump Jr blocked phone call around the time of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting wasn’t with him, but was with Howard Lorber instead.

Hours later, Russia releases old video of Trump with Lorber in Moscow.

Scott Stedman added (video here)
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Interesting Twitter thread on Don Jr, blocked call, Lorber, DJT, Russian media coverage. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Feb 2019 OP
Sheesh! matt819 Feb 2019 #1
Apparently the visibility is deliberate. Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #2
The FBI can triangulate the locations of their phones and Trump snr. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #3
Yeah bet they can! triron Feb 2019 #4
knr triron Feb 2019 #5

matt819

(10,749 posts)
1. Sheesh!
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:41 PM
Feb 2019

I don't think these guys really understand the concept of "cut-out."

When you use a cut-out, you really want more than one degree of separation between the two conspiring parties. And that one degree shouldn't be another member of the conspiracy.

Think about it this way.

On one side is the primary foreign agent. Call him Spy. On the other side is the Traitor (in this case a certain president of the US and his family members, collectively).

Another foreign agent, working at the direction of the Spy, recruits the cut-out. Maybe he's a shopkeeper. Maybe he's a consultant. Maybe he's a miscellaneous, but trustworthy, guy who, for a few hundred or few thousand dollars will take a message from Spy or Traitor. Maybe, as in The Americans TV series, this guy is an illegal. He has nothing overt to do with the conspiracy. He's "just a guy." Call him Guy 1.

Add a level of security and have another foreign agent recruit another cut-out. Call him Guy 2.

Traitor communicates with Guy 1 securely. Then (optional) Guy 1 passes information to Guy 2. Then Guy 1 (or, optional, Guy 2), passes the information to Spy. Obviously, the same can happen in reverse. The method of communication is secure - phone, text, verbal, whatever, but certainly not by blocking numbers while using personal phones.

This way there's no direct, visible connection between Spy and Traitor.

Of course, when the rest of the the Trump team has had more than 100 documented contacts with Russian nationals, maybe covert communication is a bit much. But when you've recruited the many who may be the next American president, someone along the way might have suggested a more secure form of communication.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
2. Apparently the visibility is deliberate.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

Isn't that what we must conclude?

The Russians putting the screws to Trump. When he commits treasonous acts, the Russians expose them/him to Americans.

His private parts in a vice grip of Putin.

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