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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:32 PM Feb 2019

Claims wall made El Paso safe; data shows otherwise.

Feb. 11, 2019, 4:29 AM EST
By Jane C. Timm

... "The border city of El Paso, Texas, used to have extremely high rates of violent crime — one of the highest in the country, and considered one of our nation's most dangerous cities," Trump said in his State of the Union address Tuesday. “Now, with a powerful barrier in place, El Paso is one of our safest cities" ...

... According to law enforcement data, the city had low crime rates well before a border barrier was constructed between 2008 and mid-2009.

Violent crime has been dropping in El Paso since its modern-day peak in 1993 and was at historic lows before a fence was authorized by Congress in 2006. Violent crime actually ticked up during the border fence's construction and after its completion, according to police data collected by the FBI ...

"The facts are clear. While it is true that El Paso is one of the safest cities in the nation, it has never been '...considered one of our Nation’s most dangerous cities,'" the city's sheriff, Richard Wiles, a Democrat, said in a statement after Trump concluded his address. "And, El Paso was a safe city long before any wall was built” ...

... There were 19 murders and 1,819 aggravated assaults in the city in 2017, according to FBI crime data. The city’s murder rate is about half that of the national average, and a fraction of more dangerous cities. In the similarly sized city of Detroit, there were 267 murders and 10,193 aggravated assaults, for instance ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-trump-claims-wall-made-el-paso-safe-data-n969506

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Claims wall made El Paso safe; data shows otherwise. (Original Post) struggle4progress Feb 2019 OP
Maybe what the news media should start doing is that whenever dotard Enoki33 Feb 2019 #1
I like your plan mate ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #3
I agree..... MyOwnPeace Feb 2019 #4
So, wait, hold the presses! Trump (gulp) LIED?!? This simply CANNOT BE ... lol (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #2
trump's claims are almost always duforsure Feb 2019 #5

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
1. Maybe what the news media should start doing is that whenever dotard
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:57 PM
Feb 2019

makes blatant self serving false statements, which is usually every time he speaks, they should flash across the screen ‘lie number 8568’, or whatever number it is, and then give the real facts.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
4. I agree.....
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:05 PM
Feb 2019

the MSM is NOT doing its duty - sharing the TRUTH - and pointing out WHAT IS NOT THE TRUTH!

DAMMIT, guys, ENOUGH of this "both are alike" BS and "equal time" for both sides. He's gonna' call it "fake news" so why not prove that you have some balls and show that it is not! Now THAT would be news!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. trump's claims are almost always
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

The opposite of the way it really is ,and the truth, and eventually people that support him will realize this also. Just like his lies he always repeats them a lot, and does this over and over again, like "no collusion" . His tells and patterns are easily noticed from repeated use.

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