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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:29 PM Aug 2012

"Is Buffalo the rudest place in America? "

"Buffalo, New York, is one of the rudest places in America and residents of New York City are far friendlier than folks in the Midwest and the South, according to a series of maps compiled using Twitter comments.

The head-scratching revelations are the result of studying the prevalence of two simple phrases -- 'good morning' and 'f*** you' -- over the course of several days in June and early July."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2191250/Twitter-heat-map-tracks-polite-rudest-cities.html#ixzz24ITulwOX

Buffalo's response: "F-U Daily Mail!

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"Is Buffalo the rudest place in America? " (Original Post) hedgehog Aug 2012 OP
That's weird. Everyone I ever met from Buffalo was very pleasant. RagAss Aug 2012 #1
I still think my old hometown, Boston... maveric56 Aug 2012 #2
I'm beginning to agree with you there. smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #43
This is one of the great ironies of America. CabCurious Aug 2012 #73
+1 Shrek Aug 2012 #69
I used to live in Buffalo. Don't remember any rudeness. phantom power Aug 2012 #3
uh uh. as big cities go, Chicago is one of the friendliest ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #4
NYC is the friendliest? Bullshit! Fargo is the friendliest place in the US! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #5
Well, that's not very agreeable ornotna Aug 2012 #13
Minnesotans are only friendly, in that weirdly hifiguy Aug 2012 #23
I know exactly what you mean by the passive-aggressiveness, LOL! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #45
People are very likely to respond in different ways ... surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #6
Not by any means. Ever been to the DFW area? Now THAT'S rude! HopeHoops Aug 2012 #7
Yep. I have. More than once. And I agree with you. PDJane Aug 2012 #31
Toronto is rather nice. Montreal is a hotbed for strip clubs. Hard call. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #38
Well, if checking twitter comments for several days isn't the best way figure this out hughee99 Aug 2012 #8
Not surprising at all. Upstate NY is unfriendly, even hostile. closeupready Aug 2012 #9
Upstate New York varies depending on whether hedgehog Aug 2012 #12
True - thank you for that correction. closeupready Aug 2012 #14
no, it depends on weAther CabCurious Aug 2012 #26
It's been my experience that those with heat and sunshine most of the year PDJane Aug 2012 #32
Touche! CabCurious Aug 2012 #34
pffft Earth_First Aug 2012 #44
My Buffalo-bred wife would whomp your behind for calling Buffalo "upstate NY"! petronius Aug 2012 #46
That's only because Buffalonians have Albany Association Syndrone (AAS) CabCurious Aug 2012 #49
Oswego, NY hostile?? I think not. Inkfreak Aug 2012 #57
Okay, it's a date. closeupready Aug 2012 #60
My friend from Boston says the difference between the West Coast and the East Coast panader0 Aug 2012 #10
bless your heart. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #21
From my experience, Boston is the rudest; Houston is the friendliest. Zen Democrat Aug 2012 #11
From my experience... 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #17
New Orleans is the friendliest . . fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #29
Boston people are nice, not the nicest, but nice. crimson77 Aug 2012 #36
Not in my experience. Boston is certainly the snottiest, rudest place I've been in the USA CabCurious Aug 2012 #50
San Bernardino, CA sucks big time Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #52
Hardly. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #15
The data actually indicates that Buffalo is the most honest city! hedgehog Aug 2012 #16
It's all my fault - five of my children are in residence there! hedgehog Aug 2012 #18
I disagree... SidDithers Aug 2012 #19
Buffalo is a very friendly city? You probably ran into Canadian tourists. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #59
Well, If Your CIty Lost 4 Superbowls In A Row Yavin4 Aug 2012 #20
Buffalo: City of No Illusions hedgehog Aug 2012 #22
That's just mean CabCurious Aug 2012 #51
Okay, that just hurts! blueamy66 Aug 2012 #66
I've been to both cities TrogL Aug 2012 #24
Buffalonians aren't rude. They are just cold, deprived of sunlight, and lonely. CabCurious Aug 2012 #25
Once, it was completely overcast every day from November to February, hedgehog Aug 2012 #33
The fact that you have to post photographic proof of sunlight existing in Buffalo... CabCurious Aug 2012 #35
Well, Buffalo occasionally does get some spectacular weather hedgehog Aug 2012 #39
:) CabCurious Aug 2012 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #63
If you had to live through the winters they do... liberal N proud Aug 2012 #27
lol -- that sounds like very sound methodology fishwax Aug 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #30
Having worked in NYC and lived in the midwest, my experience was phylny Aug 2012 #37
Well Carolina Hurricanes fans think so. mmonk Aug 2012 #40
Some of the rudest people I've ever met were in the townships in SW PA 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #41
Absolutely agree. MadrasT Aug 2012 #47
I never really thought of Buffalo as rude so much as suffering from hubris Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2012 #42
WKBW, Major Tom and Flo Sweetley, Bowling for Dollars KurtNYC Aug 2012 #54
thanks for the memories....reallly.... blueamy66 Aug 2012 #67
Oops - "Commander Tom" -- Major Tom was a Bowie lyric from the same period KurtNYC Aug 2012 #70
You're right....I didn't catch it! blueamy66 Aug 2012 #71
Ted's charcoal hots... jumptheshadow Aug 2012 #68
You know that 99.9999% of people in the world aren't on TV? I just read a long article about Romulox Aug 2012 #62
I always thought Joliet, Illinois was the unfriendliest lunatica Aug 2012 #53
My father had a standing joke for whichever city he was in. MarianJack Aug 2012 #55
The Capitol in DC is the rudest place in America. They kill Americans. That's rude. nt valerief Aug 2012 #56
Anchor Bar wings. Suicidal. Inkfreak Aug 2012 #58
be an active and open pro choice democrat in a very republican area dembotoz Aug 2012 #61
Rule Number One: jumptheshadow Aug 2012 #64
Buffalo's response: "F-U Daily Mail! blueamy66 Aug 2012 #65
The rudest place in the world is my front porch. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #72
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. I'm beginning to agree with you there.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
Aug 2012

I just moved to Boston (well, I was transferred) after living in NYC for 12 years. I found New Yorkers so much more friendly and more willing to engage in conversation. Bostonians are rather cold and borderline rude. Of course there are exceptions, I have also met some very nice people here as well.

On the whole, Boston is a much less stressful place to live, but I really miss the characters in New York and how willing they were to engage in friendly conversation. I can't tell you how many assholes I have already met here and I have only been here since the beginning of July.

CabCurious

(954 posts)
73. This is one of the great ironies of America.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:05 PM
Aug 2012
Genuine New Yorkers are kind and direct.

Boston is full of nose-in-the-air, rude people who will offer a fake smile with their prejudice.

Shrek

(3,983 posts)
69. +1
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:46 AM
Aug 2012

I vacationed in Boston earlier this summer and it wasn't pleasant.

I won't be back unless work takes me there for some reason.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. I used to live in Buffalo. Don't remember any rudeness.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012

I was probably the rudest hominid for miles around.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
4. uh uh. as big cities go, Chicago is one of the friendliest
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:34 PM
Aug 2012

LA? fuggetaboutit.
NY? hardly
Miami? only if the drug deal came through
Houston? Only if you complain about the weather
Dallas? Too many traffic jams for people to ever talk
Cleveland? they don't call it the mistake on the lake for nothing
Indianoplace? they view outsiders as a source of suspicion
St. Louis? They still can't get over the fact that we reversed a rived and sent all our shit down their river.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
5. NYC is the friendliest? Bullshit! Fargo is the friendliest place in the US!
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:34 PM
Aug 2012

Minnesotans and North Dakotans score 2nd and 1st on the personality trait of Agreeableness.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. Minnesotans are only friendly, in that weirdly
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

passive-aggressive Minnesota way we collectively have, if you are "one of us." Twin Citians tend to be pretty cool to real big-city types like Chicagoans, New Yoahkes and Angelenos. Something in the lutefisk, I guess.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
45. I know exactly what you mean by the passive-aggressiveness, LOL!
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:09 PM
Aug 2012

Oh, and there is a hilarious book out called How Fargo of You, written by a guy who moved here from Arizona and who was shocked by how nice we are. His very first chapter is about his shock that here in Fargo people pay for gas AFTER you fill up your car, and I thought that was the same everywhere.

One character trait very common around here from elsewhere often are amused by is our tendency for understatement and self-effacement. We are in general very phlegmatic.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
6. People are very likely to respond in different ways ...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

... depending on the medium they're using. Just because someone's written communication is "rude" doesn't mean their in person spoken interactions will be the same.

This might be an interesting comparison for further study.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
31. Yep. I have. More than once. And I agree with you.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:47 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

And even the ones who are extended family continue to be rabidly pro-gun (apparently being armed solves everything. Sort of.), nastily anti-Obama (they can't tell you why) and outrageously rude. They tell me Toronto is a cold city, and that's possible, but Dallas is hot in more ways than one.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Well, if checking twitter comments for several days isn't the best way figure this out
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

I can't imagine what is.

The maps were kind of neat, but I have to say this is the dumbest survey methodology I've seen in quite some time. Congrats to Vertaline for finding a way to profit from providing such useless information.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. Not surprising at all. Upstate NY is unfriendly, even hostile.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:44 PM
Aug 2012

From my limited experience taking daytrips there.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. Upstate New York varies depending on whether
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:59 PM
Aug 2012

you are in an urban area (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse) or a rural area.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
32. It's been my experience that those with heat and sunshine most of the year
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:48 PM
Aug 2012

Have their brains fried. It's either that, or something in the air.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
46. My Buffalo-bred wife would whomp your behind for calling Buffalo "upstate NY"!
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:14 PM
Aug 2012

Of course, that would be extremely rude of her - but we all know how those Buffalonians are.

(I've been reliably informed that Buffalo is 'Western NY', not 'upstate.' It's not a mistake I'll make for a second time...)

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
57. Oswego, NY hostile?? I think not.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:50 AM
Aug 2012

I invite you to check us out sometime. Try during Harborfest. It's wonderful.

And I travel extensively thru all of NY & I find the people to be as fantastic as the scenery.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
60. Okay, it's a date.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:42 AM
Aug 2012
And I agree, it's one of the most beatiful states and places, not only in the US but in the world.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. My friend from Boston says the difference between the West Coast and the East Coast
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:53 PM
Aug 2012

is that on the West Coast people say "Have a nice day." when they mean "fuck you", and on the East Coast people say "Fuck you" when they mean "Have a nice day".

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
36. Boston people are nice, not the nicest, but nice.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:19 PM
Aug 2012

Nicest people in America are from the central coast of California, I.E Santa Barbara.

Rudest people in America are from Los Angeles. I exclude Santa Monica and Pacific Palasides from LA

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
15. Hardly.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

And that's all I'm going to say on the subject, lest a swarm of "REGIONAL BIGOTRY!!111!!!" posts flies in my general direction.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. I disagree...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:03 PM
Aug 2012

Buffalo is a very friendly city. We were in Amherst a few weeks ago and didn't run into any rudeness. People went out of their way to be polite and helpful.

Even the DUers from Buffalo, with a few exceptions, are awesome.

Sid

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
24. I've been to both cities
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

I found NYers to be idiosyncratic but overall nice to deal with. Can't say the same for Buffalo.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
33. Once, it was completely overcast every day from November to February,
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:04 PM
Aug 2012

and I didn't notice until there was a photo in the paper proving that the sun indeed still existed!

I also read once, but can't find it now, that Buffalo has the fastest talkers and the fastest walkers in the nation. That only makes sense; who wants to stand around talking in the wind and cold!

Seriously- Buffalo has pretty good weather 9 months of the year, and the wind keeps the mosquitoes away!









and if you like Winter, four

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
39. Well, Buffalo occasionally does get some spectacular weather
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:47 PM
Aug 2012






http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3742

but then we celebrate by staying home and drinking beer!


“Stay inside, grab a six-pack and watch a good football game,” The Mayor during the Blizzard of 1985.



Buffalo's Blizzard Mayor at his home in South Buffalo

Buffalo Mayor Jimmy Griffin — feisty, independent and at times irascible. He fought his way through the Korean War, some nasty city politics and perhaps a couple of street brawls. The 56th and longest-serving Buffalo mayor, James D. Griffin was as familiar a figure as the city has ever known. Griffin was elected to four terms as mayor and was given credit for a resurgence in downtown Buffalo and its waterfront, especially in the early years of his administration. Buffalo’s Griffin era began Jan. 1, 1978.

Response to hedgehog (Reply #39)

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
27. If you had to live through the winters they do...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:40 PM
Aug 2012

You might be grouchy too.

But I have not experienced any rudeness from Buffalo, no more than you receive in Cleveland or New York or any other easter city. But that is my midwest upbringing that makes me think people in the east are ruder than they are in the middle of the country.

Just how it feels to this transplanted Iowa boy.

Response to hedgehog (Original post)

phylny

(8,383 posts)
37. Having worked in NYC and lived in the midwest, my experience was
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:24 PM
Aug 2012

that New Yorkers are fantastic, funny, and friendly, while the people in Northwest Indiana were a cold, bigoted bunch. Just my experience, though

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
41. Some of the rudest people I've ever met were in the townships in SW PA
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

All those little towns, they call them "townships" surrounding Pittsburgh, I have to go up there a couple of times a year, some of the rudest people I've ever run across in my life. And its not like running into rude people only happens now and then, its every single time I have to go up that way.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
42. I never really thought of Buffalo as rude so much as suffering from hubris
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:41 PM
Aug 2012

I grew up and lived most of my life 1/2 hour away in Canada, and when I think of Buffalo I tend to think of a dumpy, dingy place with a lots of loud annoying used car salesmen and Buffalo Bills and Sabres fans. Buffalo tv and radio stations are unbearable.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
54. WKBW, Major Tom and Flo Sweetley, Bowling for Dollars
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:08 AM
Aug 2012

cheap beer and hot wings, beef on 'wick, red hots and white hots, Genessee Cream Ale, and OJ Simpson.

Some of the funniest people I have ever met are from Buffalo. If they tweet'd "F--k You" it was probably in a fun and teasing sense. I grew up 30 miles east of Buffalo and people in that area love to tease each other. Some of my best friends and I would endulge in faux insult wars on the school bus: "That is one ugly shirt." "I got it from YOUR closet." etc.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
67. thanks for the memories....reallly....
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:41 AM
Aug 2012

We went back every Summer and stayed with my Grandmother for 2 weeks. Slept on the floor in front of the tv.

Major Tom

Bowling for Dollars

Wings, beef on weck, Ted's hot dogs, Cream Ale and OJ

What was the name of the lemon ice and beef fast food place???

Gotta copy your post and send to my cousins, who are still there.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
70. Oops - "Commander Tom" -- Major Tom was a Bowie lyric from the same period
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012


They had no budget so they would just go to a close up of the puppet when he was speaking for it.

I can still do the Buffalo accent when the mood strikes -- "Fer krice sake, don't cry over spelt melk."

"Tell" for 'ask' and dropping "to" -- "Hey, tell your Mahm if you kud come over my house fer dinner."

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
68. Ted's charcoal hots...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:43 AM
Aug 2012

...boating on the Niagara River (and you're MIDDLE CLASS), visiting Niagara Falls on a day trip, growing up close to Canada, Friday fish fries, trips to the cider orchards in fall, being able to hang with people who still listen to good rock music, tail-gating at Bills stadium at one of the few parks that is affordable and amenable to non-corporate types.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
62. You know that 99.9999% of people in the world aren't on TV? I just read a long article about
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:03 AM
Aug 2012

regional dialects. I couldn't believe the "evidence", such as it was, was largely drawn from watching local tv news.

Here's a hint: TV newscasters aren't likely from the town where they read the news!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. I always thought Joliet, Illinois was the unfriendliest
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:01 AM
Aug 2012

Especially in the miserable bone chilling Winter. But of course, I haven't been to every city or town.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
55. My father had a standing joke for whichever city he was in.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:08 AM
Aug 2012

He ask a person "you know what's really great about (insert city name here)?"

When the person asked "What?", he'd say "It's not Buffalo!"

PEACE!

dembotoz

(16,823 posts)
61. be an active and open pro choice democrat in a very republican area
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:50 AM
Aug 2012

you will find out what rude is


and i kind of like provoking them

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
64. Rule Number One:
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:13 AM
Aug 2012

Visit a place before you criticize it. Buffalo is actually a very friendly town and very down-to-earth.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
72. The rudest place in the world is my front porch.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

If you ring my bell and wake me up on saturday morning to tell me about your religion

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