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orangecrush

(19,574 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:37 PM Feb 2019

Mueller: It's time to gag Roger Stone

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office said Friday it supports a federal judge slapping a “narrowly-tailored” gag order on Roger Stone, the longtime Donald Trump associate facing lying charges.

The court filing from the lead Russia investigator said Stone should be silenced from discussing anything related to his case, which centers around charges he intentionally misled congressional investigators and obstructed their attempts to examine Russian election meddling.


“The order would be supported by a finding that there is a substantial likelihood that extrajudicial comments by trial participants will undermine a fair trail,” the Mueller prosecution team wrote in a six-page memo that accompanied their proposed gag order.

To underscore what they’re up against, Mueller's team included links to live television network interviews that Stone has done since his indictment in which he discussed “the merits of the charges, the nature of the evidence, the identity and credibility of trial witnesses and the motives of the prosecution.”

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson floated a potential gag order last week during Stone’s first hearing after his indictment. While she acknowledged that such a restriction would limit his First Amendment right, she explained that she needed to weigh that against Stone’s constitutional right to a fair trial.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/02/08/roger-stone-gag-order-1159369

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Mueller: It's time to gag Roger Stone (Original Post) orangecrush Feb 2019 OP
Shut Him Up! Qutzupalotl Feb 2019 #1
I was going to say that first but 2naSalit Feb 2019 #4
Yes! ZapataViva Feb 2019 #12
Exactly iluvtennis Feb 2019 #20
Lock him up! 2naSalit Feb 2019 #2
Stone would be ratfucking the justice system. Turbineguy Feb 2019 #3
Thus his media blitz. 2naSalit Feb 2019 #5
His big mouth orangecrush Feb 2019 #6
Lol yep...the one thing he cannot do is keep his mouth shut. Volaris Feb 2019 #14
.... orangecrush Feb 2019 #21
LOL! 2naSalit Feb 2019 #23
Why is his ass free? The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #27
Yeah, he'd like the full gag too much! Vinnie From Indy Feb 2019 #7
...so that it will be time to gag frump....permanently lindysalsagal Feb 2019 #8
Now if we can just gag Trump too world wide wally Feb 2019 #9
Slap on the gag order DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #10
OK. Mr. Stone... CCExile Feb 2019 #11
These mobsters do not think the rule of law applies to them malaise Feb 2019 #13
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! calimary Feb 2019 #15
He can borrow a ball gag from Zed in Pulp Fiction to shut him the fuck up!!! winstars Feb 2019 #16
I was gonna say... shanti Feb 2019 #22
For some reason, maybe because I'm stoned DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #17
"It's time to gag Roger Stone" Jopin Klobe Feb 2019 #18
roger stone makes me gag DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #25
I feel very small for saying this mjvpi Feb 2019 #19
He is doing this specifically to 2naSalit Feb 2019 #24
It's a very complex matter... kentuck Feb 2019 #26
Thats why i am for remanding Stone The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #28

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
14. Lol yep...the one thing he cannot do is keep his mouth shut.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:50 PM
Feb 2019

And if stones history is any indication , the Court should also issue a gag order for the Nixon face tattoo on his back, as well.

Just to be sure hahahaha!

calimary

(81,323 posts)
15. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:51 PM
Feb 2019

Clamp his damn mouth shut!

Since when does he get to prance around doing interviews like some rock star and running his big lying yap and polluting the jury pool? Since when?

Slap that gag order across his whole face. I not only don’t want to hear that lying cheating deceitful ratfucker, I don’t even want to see him!

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
17. For some reason, maybe because I'm stoned
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

This gag order of stone reminded me of a program on volcanoes I watched recently. Here's a brief explanation of what happens when a gas bag like stone is gagged.

What Happens When the Central Vent of a Volcano Gets Blocked?

Vent Blockages

"A vent blockage can occur for internal or external reasons. Sometimes the consistency of the magma flowing to the surface becomes thick and viscous, and ends up plugging the vent as it ascends. In other cases the rim of a volcano may collapse and fall back into the vent, blocking it with debris. In June of 2009, a rockfall partially blocked a major vent of the Kilauea volcano, but other vents relieved the pressure and prevented a major eruption.

Pressure and Eruptions

A blocked vent can prevent material from flowing out of the volcano, but it cannot prevent the upwelling of magma that caused the flow in the first place. In most cases a blockage is only temporary, until the pressure builds up enough to clear the plug. If the blockage is extensive, through either a major cinder cone collapse or a long period of inactivity allowing thick magma to solidify into a solid barrier, the pressure may build up enough to cause an eruption. When this occurs, the forces involved can propel magma, gas and ashes with considerable force, creating a pyroclastic flow."

If stone is gagged expect a huge eruption followed by a large pyroclastic flow of molten bullshit from traitor trump.

Personally, I hope the entire gop is buried in it. Like Pompeii.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
24. He is doing this specifically to
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:13 PM
Feb 2019

poison the jury pool, period. It's the only reason a high profile criminal would go on a victory tour following an arrest. They should never have let him out on bail. The only reason I can think of would be to either let him complete a crime in progress, like oh some major, wide-spread ratfucking in strategic places, so they have some freshly lain evidence of guilt. Or to poison the jury pool so he claim that he can't get a fair trial.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
26. It's a very complex matter...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:01 AM
Feb 2019

Matters of free speech and constitutional rights, and what we stand for as a country.

But Mueller makes a good point. Mueller's team showed the Judge the links to live TV networks that Stone had been on since his indictment. It also makes a difference that the investigation is a matter of national security.

However, any "gag order" could only be limited to the one issue relating to our national security. It should also be noted that Manafort was under a "gag order". Still, he was able to communicate with his Russian benefactors, by using some "encrypted" program. But, he was discovered.

So, "gag orders", by themselves are not an uncommon occurrence. Stone could still talk about anything he wanted to talk about, except the case he is involved in which necessitates our national security.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
28. Thats why i am for remanding Stone
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:35 AM
Feb 2019

Fuck that gag order. Stone needs to head into jail until its time to go to prison. Itll only serve to shut him up.

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