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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:50 AM Feb 2019

I think it more likely than not the Republican Party will collapse under the weight of corruption

Not a total collapse, we will never be so lucky, but maybe just maybe we will have the Presidency, the House, and 60 seats in the Senate after the 2020 elections. That is super majority territory, and that is what is needed to start reversing all of the damage that Republicans have caused this nation. Another blue wave that big is a tall order indeed. The Senate will be hard to win a super majority in. With even the smallest rural states getting the same number of Senators allotted to them as California, New York or Illinois receives, the radical polarizing of the electorate in recent years means Republicans just have to hold on to their core base to keep at least 41 Senate seats in GOP hands. I don't think Republicans will pull it off.

Sure they will hold on to the strong majority of their current base, but I believe they will suffer enough defections to put some Southern Senate seats in play, and even seats in states like Kansas and Iowa are not beyond reach. Based on a political snapshot taken today, the odds are slim that Democrats could reach the 60 Senate seat mark by 2020. But politics have rarely been as unstable in a hundred years as they are today. While the situation is not entirely analogous, Nixon won reelection in 1972 losing only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia. Two years later he was out of office. And Democrats swept to power in 2016.

Once it seemed like the Mueller probe would expose Donald Trump for the corrupt fraud that he is. Now it increasingly looks like a plethora of major Republican figures will be implicated also. This will be hugely damning. Pay to play politics is bringing ruin onto rural America. The Republicans have over played their hand, thinking social hot bottom issues and pure racism can insulate them from any real blow back. But the income tax cut scam is starting to unravel. Their nearly decade long push to abolish Obamacare continues to blow up in Republican faces. And, in myriad ways, moves like deregulating payday loan charlatans will begin to pile up on their backs. And this is all before the proverbial shit hits the fan and it becomes abundantly clear to almost all who the Republican Party chiefly serves, and it isn't the American people.

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I think it more likely than not the Republican Party will collapse under the weight of corruption (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 OP
that is what I thought after W mikeysnot Feb 2019 #1
Many believe that W. was fundementally a decent human being Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #2
But we as a Nation, are at a different place now.... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #4
I wish I shared your optimism mikeysnot Feb 2019 #8
There will always be conservatives and RWNJs FakeNoose Feb 2019 #3
The Republican Party is like some horror movie slasher. Aristus Feb 2019 #5
I wish that wasn't such a perfect analogy n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #12
A symptom of their diseased state... see link Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #6
Just getting rid of Mitch McConnell would make this a better country world wide wally Feb 2019 #7
THAT is the fucking truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Feb 2019 #13
Merely gaining control of the Senate is a tall order. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #9
The redumbliCON party has legions of liars, cheaters and stealers democratisphere Feb 2019 #10
I agree duforsure Feb 2019 #11

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
2. Many believe that W. was fundementally a decent human being
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

For the point I am making it is irrelevant whether we do. Republicans politics were not so thoroughly desecrated, aside from the realm of Middle East wars, as what is about to happen IMO. The full force of Citizens United has been revealed, and it is more ugly than the average American ever realized.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. But we as a Nation, are at a different place now....
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

The blatant corruption and disregard for the rule of law has never been more on display with Trump than with Bush. Trump makes Bush and Nixon look more like Boy Scouts in comparison. Republicans in bed with Trump are waking up infected with fleas. They will go down with him in the end.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
8. I wish I shared your optimism
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:17 AM
Feb 2019

But the cult of trump is far more dangerous than the cult of trump. These people are scary and dangerous.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
3. There will always be conservatives and RWNJs
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

... it's the fascists, racists and Libertarians who are causing all the problems these days. They should have never been allowed to take over the Republican Party, but that's water over the dam.

I hope you're onto something Tom Rinaldo!

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
5. The Republican Party is like some horror movie slasher.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:03 AM
Feb 2019

Too mean and ugly and stupid to die.

Just when we think it's gone for good, and we close our eyes and sigh with relief, it suddenly sits up, causing a jump scare.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. Merely gaining control of the Senate is a tall order.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

But I am confident we'll take the White House and maintain control of the House.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
10. The redumbliCON party has legions of liars, cheaters and stealers
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:26 AM
Feb 2019

to carry the torch from one election to the next. It is amazing that the drumpf corruption has gone on for more than 2 years and the current administration continues and remains in the oval office.

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