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(16,887 posts)Incredible
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Womp Fucking Womp.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...at least temporarily? I have no idea - that's why I'm asking.
brooklynite
(94,592 posts)Legal culpability rests with the corporate entity and/or it's Officers, not the publication itself.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)I know, maybe a dumb question, but, again, I really don't know so I'm asking.
theboss
(10,491 posts)How are you arriving at that?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Despite my disclaimer, I still received a nasty reply. Thanks.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Renato Mariotti has a predicted this defense yesterday:
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti
Scroll down a bit as I can't see to link the specific thread.
Here is the basic idea. Extortion is really hard to prove, particularly in a contractual setting.
I explained it yesterday like this. You have been running a blog for a year where you are openly criticizing my business practices to the point that it is hurting me. One day, I wake up and in my email is a copy of an HR investigation from one of your past jobs that shows you were accused of sexual harassment. I did nothing illegal in getting it, but I have it.
I email you and say, I have this document and I'm thinking about starting my own blog and publishing it. Instead of that, why don't I agree to delete the document if you agree to delete your blog after issuing a retraction.
Am I blackmailing you....or am I negotiating to a mutually beneficial conclusion? I would argue the latter, and I think the courts would tend to agree.
Where this gets interesting is two places:
1. What does Ronan Farow and others have of their own discussions with AMI? In other words, is this a tactic to kill all criticism.
2. Did anyone in Trump World ask them to do this or know they were doing this?
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)We did not expect Bezos to publish our extortion threats. Please stand by while we figure out how to salvage this situation.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)Here is the basic idea. Extortion is really hard to prove, particularly in a contractual setting.
I explained it yesterday like this. You have been running a blog for a year where you are openly criticizing my business practices to the point that it is hurting me. One day, I wake up and in my email is a copy of an HR investigation from one of your past jobs that shows you were accused of sexual harassment. I did nothing illegal in getting it, but I have it.
I email you and say, I have this document and I'm thinking about starting my own blog and publishing it. Instead of that, why don't I agree to delete the document if you agree to delete your blog after issuing a retraction.
Am I blackmailing you....or am I negotiating to a mutually beneficial conclusion? I would argue the latter, and I think the courts would tend to agree.
Where this gets interesting is two places:
1. What does Ronan Farow and others have of their own discussions with AMI? In other words, is this a tactic to kill all criticism.
2. Did anyone in Trump World ask them to do this or know they were doing this?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,023 posts)They're dead fucking wrong
theboss
(10,491 posts)I'm just cutting and pasting this example, because I think it's helpful.
Here is the basic idea. Extortion is really hard to prove, particularly in a contractual setting.
I explained it yesterday like this. You have been running a blog for a year where you are openly criticizing my business practices to the point that it is hurting me. One day, I wake up and in my email is a copy of an HR investigation from one of your past jobs that shows you were accused of sexual harassment. I did nothing illegal in getting it, but I have it.
I email you and say, I have this document and I'm thinking about starting my own blog and publishing it. Instead of that, why don't I agree to delete the document if you agree to delete your blog after issuing a retraction.
Am I blackmailing you....or am I negotiating to a mutually beneficial conclusion? I would argue the latter, and I think the courts would tend to agree.
Where this gets interesting is two places:
1. What does Ronan Farow and others have of their own discussions with AMI? In other words, is this a tactic to kill all criticism.
2. Did anyone in Trump World ask them to do this or know they were doing this?
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)extortion = good faith negotiations.
Good to know. Isn't the Age of Trump fun????
Shut these people down, tout suite.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I would love to see a lot of the people AMI extorted in this manner start to speak out.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Is exactly what is the pattern here?
(I mean, this is interesting from a pure "how sleazy" idea right now. But it probably doesn't reach to criminality quite yet).