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Will Bezos take down AMI the way the Hulkster and Charles Harder took down Gawker? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 OP
Do a Peter Thiel on the assholes HAB911 Feb 2019 #1
Jeff Bezos can buy forty or so Peter Thiels. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #2
Events Appear to be Heading in That Direction dlk Feb 2019 #3
Fuck Hulk Hogan and fuck Peter Thiel. Can't believe they're admired here. aidbo Feb 2019 #4
Are they admired here? MrGrieves Feb 2019 #5
What did the Hulkster do? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #7
He allowed Peter Thiel to inject his oligarch money into Hogan's failing litigation with Gawker. aidbo Feb 2019 #8
Gawker's published a private video of the Hulkster having sex with Bubba The Love Sponge's wife. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #9
Was the infraction - that was deemed newsworthy by two other courts - worth $140 million? aidbo Feb 2019 #10
Gawker was a gossip site. They published a private Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2019 #12
I don't mind gossip DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #13
Exactly. And THAT is why they were sued out of existence. nt Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2019 #14
Right. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #15
This is more about Trump using government intelligence to acquire and leak the texts Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #6
sure hope so! samnsara Feb 2019 #11
 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
8. He allowed Peter Thiel to inject his oligarch money into Hogan's failing litigation with Gawker.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:12 AM
Feb 2019

Allowing Thiel to get what he perceived as revenge through Hogan because Thiel’s own litigation had failed in courts.

https://gawker.com/gawker-was-murdered-by-gaslight-1785456581

The message is that Gawker had this coming, that the site was—to some degree, depending on how sympathetic the writer is trying to pose as being—responsible for its own downfall. By now it is conventional wisdom. That conventional wisdom is false.

Gawker.com is out of business because one wealthy person maliciously set out to destroy it, spending millions of dollars in secret, and succeeded. That is the only reason.

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Lawsuits and settlements happen to everyone, and everyone carries insurance to handle them. In Gawker’s wildest, most buccaneering years, it never came close to paying a million dollars for crossing a line.

What Thiel’s covert campaign against Gawker did was to invisibly change the terms of the risk calculation. The change begins with the post about Thiel’s sexual identity in a homophobic investor culture, the post Thiel now cites as the inspiration for his decision to destroy Gawker. It was solidly protected by media law and the First Amendment, as were the other posts that, as Thiel wrote, “attacked and mocked people”—specifically, his cohort of rising plutocrats in Silicon Valley. Hurting rich people’s feelings is, in principle, not a punishable offense.

So rather than fighting the material that he really objected to, Thiel went looking for pretexts. Over time, he came up with them. Gawker found itself attracting legal threats and lawsuits at an unprecedented rate. Among those was Hulk Hogan’s complaint against Gawker for having written about a sex video he appeared in, and for publishing brief excerpts of that video. This was the kind of case that, in the normal course of things, would have gone away. Hogan’s first two attempts to pursue it, in federal court, went nowhere, with judges ruling that the publication was newsworthy and protected.

Yet the case kept moving. Suddenly the company had exhausted the limits of its insurance and was bleeding money on legal fees. The business model on which it had thrived—writing things that people were interested in reading, and selling ads to reach those readers—was foundering due to a whole new class of expenses.

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Gawker always said it was in the business of publishing true stories. Here is one last true story: You live in a country where a billionaire can put a publication out of business. A billionaire can pick off an individual writer and leave that person penniless and without legal protection.

If you want to write stories that might anger a billionaire, you need to work for another billionaire yourself, or for a billion-dollar corporation. The law will not protect you. There is no freedom in this world but power and money.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Gawker's published a private video of the Hulkster having sex with Bubba The Love Sponge's wife.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:21 AM
Feb 2019

That is not protected speech as the trial court and subsequent appeals courts found. Just because Thiel is an unappealing character doesn't justify Gawker's gross invasion of the Hulkster's privacy.


Back to the topic. If Bezos takes down The Enquier I won't shed a tear.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
10. Was the infraction - that was deemed newsworthy by two other courts - worth $140 million?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:40 AM
Feb 2019

A sum which bankrupted them and effectively put them out of business. This was lawfare practiced by Thiel for revenge.

I’m not informed as to what’s going on with Bezos and the Enquirer yet, but I did not like the precedent set by the Gawker ruling.

Gawker spoke truth to power and a powerful person shut it down.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
12. Gawker was a gossip site. They published a private
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:03 PM
Feb 2019

video of Hogan having sex. That’s not truth to power, it’s gossip. Glad they are bankrupt.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. This is more about Trump using government intelligence to acquire and leak the texts
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:44 AM
Feb 2019

The bigger story is the President used government resources to gather and release this data.

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