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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:16 AM Feb 2019

WaPo Reporter: Bezos' Investigators Think 'Government Entity' Might Have Leaked His Sexts...


WaPo Reporter: Bezos’ Investigators Think ‘Government Entity’ Might Have Leaked His Sexts to National Enquirer

by Aidan McLaughlin | Feb 7th, 2019, 11:40 pm

A Washington Post reporter dropped a bombshell Thursday night: that investigators working for Jeff Bezos believe “a government entity” may have obtained his text messages, and rather than a phone hack, that this is how the National Enquirer got them.

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On MSNBC Thursday night, Washington Post reporter Manuel Roig-Franzia said he had “spoken extensively” with the head of Bezos’ investigation, security consultant Gavin de Becker. “They have begun to believe, the Bezos camp, that this publication by the National Enquirer might have been politically motivated,” Roig-Franzia said.

“Gavin de Becker told us that he does not believe that Jeff Bezos’s phone was hacked,” the reporter continued. “He thinks it’s possible that a government entity might have gotten hold of his text messages.”

Bezos has published the graphic extortion messages, which you can read here. After his revelations, journalist Ronan Farrow came out with his own accusations against the Enquirer, which you can read about here.

David Pecker, the CEO of National Enquirer parent company AMI, is a longtime ally of President Donald Trump. The company has been cooperating with investigators in the Southern District of New York ever since it admitted to making a $150,000 “catch-and-kill” payment to rid of a story about an alleged affair Trump had with former Playboy model Karen McDougal.

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/washington-post-reporter-bezos-investigators-believe-government-entity-might-have-obtained-his-texts/
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WaPo Reporter: Bezos' Investigators Think 'Government Entity' Might Have Leaked His Sexts... (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2019 OP
The story is huge without any gov't action, but if there is, there needs to be evidence themaguffin Feb 2019 #1
This sounds trivial ( but we are talking Trump here) Carrell on SNL as Bezos trashing trump underpants Feb 2019 #2
Oh, no. I hadn't seen that clip. I'll bet Donnie was furious when he saw that... llmart Feb 2019 #11
He-he Trump melts down over this and Bezos had nothing to do with it FakeNoose Feb 2019 #32
How Nixonian NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #3
doesn't need to be an intel agency, any LEO can get texts.... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #14
"a government entity" ? US or Saudi ? He's pretty vague on that. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #4
De Becker while you're investigating this, Corgigal Feb 2019 #5
Uh, now that I see that his girlfriend's brother is a tRump supporter and Stone friend... PeeJ52 Feb 2019 #6
Bingo Scruffy1 Feb 2019 #18
How would any entity get the pics & emails, if not by hacking? Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #7
Hacking by a foreign intelligence service? tinrobot Feb 2019 #10
It said the phone wasn't hacked. No matter by whom. ???nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #12
Was the phone backed up to a central server of some sort? tinrobot Feb 2019 #15
Cell phone company worker would be my guess Major Nikon Feb 2019 #16
That's hacking, isn't it? If you enter someone's locked/passworded private account, Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #20
I'm sure it's probably illegal Major Nikon Feb 2019 #21
Well, I know. But I wonder how they got the texts & pics, if they didn't hack the account. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #25
The provider doesn't have to hack anything Major Nikon Feb 2019 #30
It depends. A phone company employee may have "admin" access. NutmegYankee Feb 2019 #26
I bet Bezos and his investigator think the brother had access and did it. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #27
Transmissions via a server are no longer under the sender's control. Blue_true Feb 2019 #37
So if someone goes into a server & takes transmissions... Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #39
If the person works for the transmission company and has access Blue_true Feb 2019 #40
I see. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #41
Large private companies have encryption for sensitive Blue_true Feb 2019 #42
Yes. That, too. He's so famous. AND he's in a war w/the President. Geez. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #43
Grocery store gorilla warfare against Enquirer SMoss Feb 2019 #8
GET TRUMP OUT NOW!!!! Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #9
He does not need the agencies, just one admirer in one of them. Blue_true Feb 2019 #38
One of the deals AMI made with the Feds is that they would not engage in criminal acts Perseus Feb 2019 #13
it would seem they did... dhill926 Feb 2019 #17
They obtained information illegally..... mitch96 Feb 2019 #31
How many times have they done this? DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #19
I'm skeptical about this KayF Feb 2019 #22
Consider Bezos's tech security BruceWane Feb 2019 #23
Sure it makes sense FakeNoose Feb 2019 #33
Individual #1 spanone Feb 2019 #24
I think he was honey trapped elfin Feb 2019 #28
How about three? C_U_L8R Feb 2019 #29
Well Trump the Russian agent/crime boss in charge workinclasszero Feb 2019 #34
what if said government actor was a rogue U.S. Intel entity under ultimate direction of Trump? Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #35
Notice to self: Never take penis and ass photos. Blue_true Feb 2019 #36
Maybe the trump administration got MBS/ Saudis to order spying of Bezos. nt Ilsa Feb 2019 #44

underpants

(182,826 posts)
2. This sounds trivial ( but we are talking Trump here) Carrell on SNL as Bezos trashing trump
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:31 AM
Feb 2019

if you don’t think that mushroom boy saw that and it dug deep into his craw then you haven’t been paying attention

If you haven’t seen it - below. These days they call this “trolling”, we used to call it talking trash AND ripping a new one

llmart

(15,540 posts)
11. Oh, no. I hadn't seen that clip. I'll bet Donnie was furious when he saw that...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:11 AM
Feb 2019

especially the bit about fake hair and real men. Think of how furious dirty donnie was at Obama's correspondents dinner jabs at him.

I'm loving it.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
32. He-he Trump melts down over this and Bezos had nothing to do with it
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:26 PM
Feb 2019

Absolutely hilarious!

I hope it can be proved that Cheeto ordered the hacking and blackmailing of Jeff Bezos, using government sources. OMG it will be all over for him, even the rightwingers will want him out on his fat orange ass.

Good job Steve Carrell!



getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
14. doesn't need to be an intel agency, any LEO can get texts....
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019

Under the patriot act, any LEO who has access to anational system can make an electronic request and get all your records, including texts, from your carrier.

It doesn't require a warrant, just filling out a form.

So there is likely some detective somewhere in peckers pocket (pecker has a dick in his pocket?). But that sytem has an audit trail. A security admin can run a query and find out who requested those records. Then they can see who else that person requested records on.

Now that could get interesting.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
6. Uh, now that I see that his girlfriend's brother is a tRump supporter and Stone friend...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

and she works for Fox, this is all making sense... Bezos.. you were catfished...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. How would any entity get the pics & emails, if not by hacking?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:22 AM
Feb 2019

What other way could they get them? Whether it's an individual or a government entity?

What gvt entity is working for Trump directly? The DOJ? The intel entities are not working for him, which is why Trump attacks them. The FBI, National Security, CIA.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
15. Was the phone backed up to a central server of some sort?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

That would be one opening.

The phone that received the messages would be another opening. Was that phone secure? Was that data backed up somewhere?

Someone could also intercept the data as it is being sent, but that's usually government level stuff. It has been reported that the Chinese have been doing just this with the internet equipment they manufacture, which is why it has just been banned.


Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. That's hacking, isn't it? If you enter someone's locked/passworded private account,
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 03:41 PM
Feb 2019

that's hacking, isn't it? I guess for a cell phone worker, he might be able to get in more easily. But still hacking?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
21. I'm sure it's probably illegal
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 04:52 PM
Feb 2019

But considering a tabloid would pay for it there’s plenty of incentives.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. Well, I know. But I wonder how they got the texts & pics, if they didn't hack the account.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 06:11 PM
Feb 2019

The technical way they did it. That's what I'm wondering.

MAYBE his mistress' brother, a Trumper, got into HER phone? Hmmm.....that sounds possible.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
30. The provider doesn't have to hack anything
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 06:57 PM
Feb 2019

Those messages travel through their network and different providers store them for different lengths of time. Law enforcement can also get them from the provider with a supeona and sometimes without.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
26. It depends. A phone company employee may have "admin" access.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 06:17 PM
Feb 2019

And all text data goes through the phone servers.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. I bet Bezos and his investigator think the brother had access and did it.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 06:19 PM
Feb 2019

I betcha. Since they have mentioned he is a possibility in this sordid business. Maybe the mistress's phone isn't passworded.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Transmissions via a server are no longer under the sender's control.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:13 PM
Feb 2019

One more reason why I never take dick photos, least yet send them.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. So if someone goes into a server & takes transmissions...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:22 PM
Feb 2019

Is that hacking of a sort? Or something else?

Bezos and his investigator say his phone wasn't hacked. So I guess, it could have been hacked on the other end, or from the server.

It seemed as if they think it was his mistress's brother, who is a wacko Trumper.

Doesn't matter, I guess. I was just wondering.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. If the person works for the transmission company and has access
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:29 PM
Feb 2019

it is not hacking. If the images were taken off a phone company server, the company should be able to figure out who accessed the files, but that search should be done by a large team that reports directly to a trustworthy high company official. The whole thing is a bag of worms. There is no way that I will send intimate material over the net, even if I took such photos (which I don't).

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
41. I see.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:46 PM
Feb 2019

LOL...sorry I didn't understand. I don't know how the transmission of texts & pics over cell wireless works.

I know...I do NOT get that people are STILL sending X rated materials out, after all the nude pics of people have been released to the public the last few years. Esp someone Bezos' age. He should know better.

I wouldn't.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Large private companies have encryption for sensitive
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:58 PM
Feb 2019

information that is transmitted. Some don't allow material over a certain security level to be transmitted electronically, instead opting for secure human carriers.

The phone companies own the encryption technology that our phones rely on, so they can see whatever that want to see. Fortunately there are likely billions of texts flying about daily, so in order for one person's texts to be trapped and viewed, that person would have to be targeted.

Even beyond Bezos' age, I am floored that such a massively high profile person would send out risqué stuff over the net, that is what is mind boggling. His mere prominence means that he has a much higher risk of getting targeted than regular people does.

SMoss

(112 posts)
8. Grocery store gorilla warfare against Enquirer
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

I Inquirer tried to extort Bezos and the Washington Post. The National Inquirer sucks. I have hated them since their coverage of Princess Diana's death. When I am standing in line at the grocery store I take a copy out of the rack. Then I put it back in the rack backwards. My grocery store gorilla warfare.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
9. GET TRUMP OUT NOW!!!!
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

Is there any doubt that Trump would use the NSA, CIA, and FBI for this type of illegal score settling? All Trump cares about it settling scores like this.

This is what despots do, they use the government powers to destroy their enemies.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. He does not need the agencies, just one admirer in one of them.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:15 PM
Feb 2019

There are plenty of rightwing nuts in all of those agencies.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. One of the deals AMI made with the Feds is that they would not engage in criminal acts
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:19 AM
Feb 2019

I wonder if they have crossed the line...

mitch96

(13,911 posts)
31. They obtained information illegally.....
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:14 PM
Feb 2019

I think they have crossed the line... We shall see how bad the fed's want to mess with pEcker.
m

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
19. How many times have they done this?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:19 PM
Feb 2019

This isn't the first and certainly won't be the last time they've used strong-arm tactics like this. scarborough hinted that legislators in both the House and Senate, and possibly himself and his co-host, have been blackmailed by trump and his goons. That could easily explain their acquiescence to trump's madness.

This would also explain "tough guy" chris christie's total capitulation to and his willingness to be publicly humiliated over and over again by trump.

They're all cowards. And not a single one of those traitors belongs anywhere near a seat of power.

They all belong in prison for misprision of treason, among their myriad other crimes.

BruceWane

(345 posts)
23. Consider Bezos's tech security
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 05:26 PM
Feb 2019

You have to consider that Amazon is very, very much a technology company. A huge part of their business is AWS (Amazon Web Services). They leverage their own massive, worldwide technology infrastructure to lease bandwidth - if you want to launch something big on the internet, you don't need to by your own hardware. Amazon will sell you all the internet horsepower you want. Lots of very large companies use AWS.

Also, Bezos is well aware that his business communications, were they intercepted, could have massive implications on Amazon.

This is not in any way comparable to the Clinton/DNC/Podesta debacle. Bezos has an army of tech security. I guarantee you that his password is not "password". I guarantee you that his personal devices are as un-hackable as they come. And I guarantee you that all this was checked and double-checked by DeBecker.

At this point, the pool of possible players in this game reduces rapidly to government spooks. I would bet that Bezos's communications were collected by the NSA "incidentally", as they coyly tend to put it. And someone trump worshipper with access then provided it to the WH to use as a nuclear weapon against the owner of the Washington Post.

There's lots of things I don't like about some of Amazon's business practices, but I absolutely applaud Jeff Bezos for having the integrity to place defending the free press above his own considerable personal pain.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
33. Sure it makes sense
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:30 PM
Feb 2019

I hope somebody checks out Lauren Sanchez and her brother. Jeff Bezos is no dummy, but maybe he's blinded by "love!"

elfin

(6,262 posts)
28. I think he was honey trapped
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 06:42 PM
Feb 2019

He is of an age and probably has that arrogance to think she was only interested in HIM and his nether parts with true love forever. Men are STUPID at a certain age no matter how rich or "smart" they are or think they are.

She's in it for $ and for the thrill of personal espionage to damage the one hurting Trump and the lure of fame and a lot of $ from AMI. She gave her bro the access to Bezos' info including passwords and locations to get photos from afar.

Then the whole thing tipped before she got the marriage license in order to get an even bigger payout when AMI pulled the trigger on the purloined info in order to provide yet another distraction for Trump and to please their Saudi overlords in their own desired deal with them.

If that was the process, then there will be no proof of gov't hacking. But plenty of proof that "smart" and powerful Bezos got played.

It will have been for the nastiest of motives - to cover up and quash the murder of Khashoggi (sp?) and reduce the power of the Post -- but can that be "proved?"

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Well Trump the Russian agent/crime boss in charge
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:41 PM
Feb 2019

and his gutter republican party that are rat fucking dems all over the country would never dream of using the intelligence apparatus of the US government to attack his perceived political opponents.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
35. what if said government actor was a rogue U.S. Intel entity under ultimate direction of Trump?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:42 PM
Feb 2019

That's the possibility I inferred. Perhaps too CT.

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