Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:25 AM Feb 2019

The Wild Experiment That Showed Evolution in Real Time

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/unprecedentedly-thorough-evolution-experiment/581521/

By placing wild mice in large outdoor enclosures, an ambitious team of scientists has illustrated the full process of natural selection in a single study.

In the fall of 2010, Rowan Barrett was stuck. He needed a piece of land, one with plenty of mice, and after days of futile searching, he found himself at a motel bar in Valentine, Nebraska, doing what people do at bars: telling a total stranger about his problems.

A young evolutionary biologist, Barrett had come to Nebraska’s Sand Hills with a grand plan. He would build large outdoor enclosures in areas with light or dark soil, and fill them with captured mice. Over time, he would see how these rodents adapted to the different landscapes—a deliberate, real-world test of natural selection, on a scale that biologists rarely attempt.

But first, he had to find the right spots: flat terrain with the right color soil, an abundance of mice, and a willing owner. The last of these was proving especially elusive, Barrett bemoaned. Local farmers weren’t keen on giving up valuable agricultural land to some random out-of-towner. After knocking on door after door, he had come up empty. Hence: the bar.

Barrett’s drinking companion—Bill Ward, or Wild Bill to his friends—thought the idea was bizarre, but also fun. “He told me, ‘I’ve got this alfalfa field. You’re welcome to come by tomorrow. I’m okay with you building this thing,’” Barrett said to me. “I just about fell out of my chair.”



Very cool experiment. Barret created large enclosures with either dark or light soil colours. Then released dna tagged mice into each enclosure and let them live. 3 months later they collected the survivors.

As time passed, many of the mice fell prey to owls, but after three months, the team returned and recaptured the ones that were left. Sure enough, they found that, compared with the average founding rodents, the average survivors were noticeably lighter in the light-sand enclosures, and darker in the dark-soil ones. Through the deaths of the most conspicuous individuals, the survivors from two initially identical populations had shifted in different directions thanks to their different environments. “It’s intuitive that if you match your background, you’re more likely to survive,” Hoekstra says. “But that’s been a just-so story for years.” This experiment showed that it matters—a lot.





Sid
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Wild Experiment That Showed Evolution in Real Time (Original Post) SidDithers Feb 2019 OP
Charles Darwin Aussie105 Feb 2019 #1
how many mouse generations in 3 months? rampartc Feb 2019 #2
Which preditors are those? edhopper Feb 2019 #10
Bats don't eat mice. And they're the only MineralMan Feb 2019 #12
You may be thinking of owls... paleotn Feb 2019 #16
Well, in agreement with the other responses above re bats... 2naSalit Feb 2019 #21
neat study Botany Feb 2019 #3
Man that is really cool Glamrock Feb 2019 #4
That's cool genxlib Feb 2019 #5
Here's one you can do at home. world wide wally Feb 2019 #6
no shortage of dandelions in my yard. thanks for info. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #8
Yes. I've noticed that every spring here in Minnesota. MineralMan Feb 2019 #11
My biology teacher in 1972 had my class do this dandelion experiment Dorn Feb 2019 #14
Cool biology teacher! MineralMan Feb 2019 #15
k&r. gotta hand it to wild bill for going along. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #7
Kick and recommend. Thanks for posting bronxiteforever Feb 2019 #9
Cool Yet why are there so many regressive and hateful people in government ? Dorn Feb 2019 #13
Great article dalton99a Feb 2019 #17
The engine that drives life on earth. paleotn Feb 2019 #18
If they need to expand this experiment... jcgoldie Feb 2019 #19
Very interesting read. Farmer-Rick Feb 2019 #20
I remember a study done with moths in Industrial England packman Feb 2019 #22

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
1. Charles Darwin
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:31 AM
Feb 2019

first noticed that when he visited the Galapagos Islands. Finches, descended from mainland finches, on the different islands had different shaped beaks and behaviours to help them gather food.

It helped him formulate his Theory of Evolution.

So not a 'just-so story', and also, not new.

But a nice story nevertheless.

rampartc

(5,410 posts)
2. how many mouse generations in 3 months?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:37 AM
Feb 2019

what difference does color make to nocturnal echolocating predators?

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
10. Which preditors are those?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
Feb 2019

Bats? Owls use eye sight.

And this is about the mice that survived, that would then go on to have similar colored offspring.

It shows natural selection at work.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
12. Bats don't eat mice. And they're the only
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

echo-locating predators in that area. I think you're perhaps not familiar with the animal kingdom.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
16. You may be thinking of owls...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:55 AM
Feb 2019

They actually hunt primarily by sight and their vision is still acute in very low light levels.

The experiment doesn't work as well for snakes, who can "see" in infrared. The warmth of a mouse stands out regardless of the color of the background.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
21. Well, in agreement with the other responses above re bats...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:08 AM
Feb 2019

I'l add that there are many predators out there from snakes and owls to hawks, coyotes, foxes and I know I'm forgetting a few. Most of those would rely partly on sight to hunt for prey.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
6. Here's one you can do at home.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:59 AM
Feb 2019

Spring is coming, so take notice of how tall your dandelions are (if you are uckck enough to have some). As you mow the lawn throughout the summer, watch how each new generation grows shorter. What they are doing is adapting to the lawn mower blade in an effort to live longer and reproduce.
Plants aren't as stupid as you might think.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Yes. I've noticed that every spring here in Minnesota.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:28 AM
Feb 2019

The shorter plants escape my weekly mowing and live to reseed themselves. I've been watching that for 14 years now in my front lawn. Last spring, there were no more tall dandelions at all in my lawn. All were short and had short flower stalks. Many, many generations of dandelions over the years. The ones that survived my mower and reseeded the yard are the survivors.

Notably, elsewhere in my yard, where I do not mow, there are many dandelions with tall flower stalks, still.

Dorn

(523 posts)
13. Cool Yet why are there so many regressive and hateful people in government ?
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:40 AM
Feb 2019

What are the conditions that encourage and allow the creation and election of so many people who are nasty and brutish ?

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
18. The engine that drives life on earth.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

The engine is always running, even if we rarely notice it in our infinitesimally short lifetimes.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
19. If they need to expand this experiment...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

I have a shed loaded with mice and they dont even need to bring their own... plenty of owls to boot... if they would please just take the "survivors" with them when they finish for evidence or whatever...

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
20. Very interesting read.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

They had to throw all the snakes out of the enclosures and the mice kept finding new ways to get into each other's enclosures. To stop the mice from leaving the metal paneled enclosures they had to pour concrete and knock down snow ramps.

And they found the gene (or sequence of genes) that changed the fur color.

I was wondering about the snakes.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. I remember a study done with moths in Industrial England
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:28 AM
Feb 2019

way back in the late 1800's ( Not sure of date). A scientist noticed that light colored moths were easy prey against the darkened, soot covered trees and eventually only dark winged moths were left to survive. They blended into the background and escaped predication.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Wild Experiment That ...