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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,026 posts)
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 10:45 PM Feb 2019

Nate Silver :Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative Voters Preferred Trump In 2016

The conventional wisdom is that a socially liberal, fiscally conservative independent presidential candidate — like, say, Howard Schultz, the former Starbucks CEO, who is considering just such a run — poses a threat to Democrats in 2020 by potentially dividing the anti-Trump vote. But there’s another possibility: that Schultz, or a candidate like him, could divide the pro-Trump vote instead.

I’m not going to purport to provide a comprehensive analysis of whether a Schultz-like candidate is more likely to help or hurt President Trump’s re-election chances, which is a question that can be approached from many angles. The answer will depend on what sort of candidate the Democrats nominate and what Trump’s political standing looks like late next year.

What we can do, however, is look back to 2016, when voters who are socially liberal but fiscally conservative also had to choose a presidential candidate.

Who did these voters, who are somewhere around 15 percent of the electorate, go for in 2016? The answer is complicated because it depends on which social and economic issues you look at: racial attitudes were more determinative of their presidential vote than views on gay marriage, for example. But according to the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, a comprehensive survey of more than 60,000 voters organized by Harvard University and conducted by YouGov, these voters were slightly more likely to vote for Trump than Hillary Clinton.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/socially-liberal-fiscally-conservative-voters-preferred-trump-in-2016/

I can't imaging ANYONE who's socially liberal voting for Trump this go around.

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Nate Silver :Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative Voters Preferred Trump In 2016 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 OP
yeah more than a few voters bought the bullshit that he was dsc Feb 2019 #1
Racists preferred Trump. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2
Tax cheats are the ones we need to watch out for. Initech Feb 2019 #5
yes, we're know libertarians never have a shit about women and minorities JI7 Feb 2019 #3
And they got Gorsuch and Kavannaugh aeromanKC Feb 2019 #4
The 2016 Election was mostly about TheRealNorth Feb 2019 #6
I don't know what "fiscally Conservative" even means kwolf68 Feb 2019 #7
"I can't imaging ANYONE who's socially liberal voting for Trump" Poiuyt Feb 2019 #8

dsc

(52,162 posts)
1. yeah more than a few voters bought the bullshit that he was
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 10:52 PM
Feb 2019

the most pro gay Republican ever. That was total crap and now we know it.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Racists preferred Trump.
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 10:54 PM
Feb 2019

Misogynists preferred Trump.

Tax cheats preferred Trump.

Fiscal conservatives? If they are informed voters, they would know that the GOP always explodes the deficit.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
5. Tax cheats are the ones we need to watch out for.
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 11:06 PM
Feb 2019

It's not the people who watch reality TV we should be worried about. It's the people who live in big houses and more than likely own small businesses we need to focus on. These are the people who are more likely to cheat on their taxes and probably their partners that will vote conservative 10 times out of 10. They vote with their Mercedes and pocketbooks instead of the greater good of the people. I know more than a few people who are like this.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. yes, we're know libertarians never have a shit about women and minorities
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 10:55 PM
Feb 2019

and that's why they are mostly white men.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
6. The 2016 Election was mostly about
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 11:21 PM
Feb 2019

Russian trolls and other actors convincing likely Democratic voters to stay home. It was about propagating negative and misleading propaganda into our social networks on the internet.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
7. I don't know what "fiscally Conservative" even means
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 11:27 PM
Feb 2019

I don't know what that means? Does it mean chopping taxes on the 1%, while expanding spending for the war and prison machine, blowing up the debt?


Been doing that since the 1980s, NOT A SINGLE REpublican President has NOT done this. And I am sorry slashing EPA budget means diddly.

At WHAT POINT will the "Liberal media" expose this charade? The Republic Party isn't about being fiscally Conservative, they are about entrenching power for the oligarchs.

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
8. "I can't imaging ANYONE who's socially liberal voting for Trump"
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 11:28 PM
Feb 2019

I can't believe that 5% of Democrats think he's doing a good job (from a recent survey).

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