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MrGrieves

(315 posts)
1. Right!
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:35 PM
Feb 2019

Why was this put to print in the first place? WTF? Why is the school and the people that put the yearbook together getting off free?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,388 posts)
3. Black people are routinely under-treated in healthcare settings. Black women, and black mothers
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:38 PM
Feb 2019

in particular, suffer disproportionately at the hands of the medical establishment. Racism is institutionalized in this nation. You can't escape it.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
7. All women are routinely undertreated in healthcare settings
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:49 PM
Feb 2019

elderly women even more so

I agree with what you say as far as it goes...
but the women medical debacle is actually all women and especially elderly women

I've been fighting to get my mother adequate care for a couple of years

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,388 posts)
10. I'm sorry about your mom. Eldercare is going through a strain with baby boomers aging and not enough
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 10:36 PM
Feb 2019

specialized providers being trained quickly enough.

In the aggregate, quantifiably, racial and ethnic minorities receive lower-quality care than white people. The black maternal mortality rate, a key indicator, is 3-4 times higher than that of white mothers. It's one of the biggest differences in women's health.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
12. I don't doubt racial and ethnic minorities receive lower quality care
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 11:16 PM
Feb 2019

But the problems in care of women is much bigger than just a strain on the supply of doctors due to boomers.

The women problems are institutional (I don't know enough to know if the minority problems are also institutional but given that minorities suffer from institutional racism, I don't doubt that is also institutional...I just know more facts about womens healthcare problems.

I am aware that maternal mortality is 3rd world country bad for black women in this country.

But women's health outcome differences are a far broader problem than maternal mortality.

We are violently agreeing with each other.






MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
13. Statistically Black women are treated even worse
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:38 AM
Feb 2019

It’s horrifying how they are denied pain medicine ultrasounds and other diagnostic tests, even during pregnancy.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
14. I don't doubt you
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

lets face it white males get the best medical care
and that is at least partially due to the medical establishment and the insurance industry

delisen

(6,044 posts)
4. I intend to devote my energies to stoping the massive damage being done now Donald Trump and his
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:42 PM
Feb 2019

henchmen, which includes his family, international criminals, agencies of our government, certain office holders, and Russian oligarchs. We need thousands willing to be active in doing so now because of the humanitarian crises.

If you are want focus on this medical school in Virginia, which I understand is a public university you might want to set up committee which includes some residents of Virginia and begin asking questions of the school. I understand they are having an outside investigation done and they seem to be forthcoming with information.
You may want to make contact with graduates since to see whether there is a current problem.

I think this would be a great thing to do. Then you could report back to DU with some answers and people can decide if there is still a problem at the school what they will do about it.

 

janmichael3

(8 posts)
5. Whew. I was a teen and in my early 20's in the 80's. It wasn't all unicorns and marshmellows.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:46 PM
Feb 2019

Reagan and Atwater conservatives dominated the 80's with attacks on minorities, all poor people, all people who weren't white and straight as arrows, women, and the environment. Plus some more. The schools were not immune to this disease.

I was in south florida in the mid-to late 80's and there were white power and kkk flyers getting shoved under windshield wipers at the mall all of the everlasting time. Church of White Power and other nuts were very active.

My year books (of which I have none) may not have had the kkk outfits (I doubt that since I was out west then and racists weren't kkk but nazis) blackface but I bet there was some blackface or really nasty anti feminist stuff in there somewhere. I knew the people who would do it. Assholes then were pretty mainstream.

Outside of liberal/hippy/union (most unions) pockets this was not unusual.

AnnieBW

(10,449 posts)
8. Agreed
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:54 PM
Feb 2019

I went to school in Pittsburgh in the mid-80's. There was rampant racism, especially among fraternities.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
6. they discontinued yearbooks in 2013
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 09:48 PM
Feb 2019

apparently their yearbook problems continued for decades after he graduated
Eastern Virginia Medical school

Igel

(35,337 posts)
11. Unclear if "allow" is even the right word.
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 10:53 PM
Feb 2019

Depends who published it, who assembled it, what oversight levels there were.

If it went through an official office, then "allow" is too weak.

If it had administrative or faculty sponsorship, then "allow" is appropriate.

If it was student government with limited oversight, then "allow" is too strong.

If it was an ancillary student group that wasn't registered but off on the side and self-funding, then it's inappropriate. We act like universities are in charge of micromanaging their students' lives, when they're just where the students go to study.

You'll find that many schools don't manage their students' lives. Many schools tend to turn a blind eye to all sorts of things, on whatever part of whatever spectrum. They have their mission, and that mission isn't the one that we set for them, especially not one we set 35 years after the fact.

I think the claim would also have to dwell on the fact that every school is actually several schools. There are the students. There is the administration. There is the faculty. And there is the physical plant. They're interconnected, to some limited extent, but to a shocking extent disconnected.

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