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If the Virginia governor steps down, will he be succeeded by the Lt. Gov (Original Post) CatWoman Feb 2019 OP
Lt Gov would be Gov. Then, VA legislature appoints spooky3 Feb 2019 #1
So is the legislature Republican? Could this be a plan to oust the Dems McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #2
Yes. Nt spooky3 Feb 2019 #3
Yes, legislature is GOP, and yes many are saying the legislature will replace the Lt Gov when he mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #5
Absolutely not true. New Governor appts Lt. Governor, NOT the legislature hlthe2b Feb 2019 #11
thanks Hon CatWoman Feb 2019 #15
No... I'm not sure why some are propagating this, but not true. New Gov Fairfax appts Lt. Gov hlthe2b Feb 2019 #6
Yes riverwalker Feb 2019 #8
No. that is not true. Fairfax as new Governor would appoint his own Lt. Governor. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #4
I'm going to hold off on taking the word of the Inquisitor on this question for the time being ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #7
WAPO says the same. Do you trust a law professor at UVA quoted by WAPO? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #10
That is a slightly more comforting, yes :) mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #13
In the vernacular a MSM source "says" means they "report"... Geez I provided the link hlthe2b Feb 2019 #14
No offense intended, I'm only saying I've yet to see cut/dry evidence, only 'this is what I think' mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #16
Really? yet all but one other on this thread did not question the assertion sans any evidence hlthe2b Feb 2019 #18
It has never been adjudicated because it hasn't occurred. BUT the issue is there is no legislation hlthe2b Feb 2019 #19
That's what I was worried about, this is good news. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #9
If he is racist, he can't resign because the Lt. Gov is black krawhitham Feb 2019 #12
when I went to bed last night I was leaning toward him not resigning CatWoman Feb 2019 #17

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
2. So is the legislature Republican? Could this be a plan to oust the Dems
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:24 PM
Feb 2019

so they can rig the state for the next election? The Lt. Gov had better be as pure as the driven snow.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Yes, legislature is GOP, and yes many are saying the legislature will replace the Lt Gov when he
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:30 PM
Feb 2019

Moves to the Governorship.

And YES as far as I'm concerned, this could EASILY be part of a bigger plan, that the GOP has some old crap on the Lt. Gov. as well that they'll bust out as soon as they've gotten some Confederate jerk in place as Lt. Gov.

I don't friggin' trust the GOP as far as I can throw 'em. That's why I'm not jumping on the Oust Northam bandwagon until all the facts are in.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
8. Yes
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:37 PM
Feb 2019

Fairfax becomes Gov. and the law says he can choose his own Lt. Gov. The VA law was on Twitter last night.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. I'm going to hold off on taking the word of the Inquisitor on this question for the time being ...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

If I find out for SURE Fairfax gets to choose his Lieutenant, and there's no chance for f***ery by the VA Congressional GOP, I'll be more amenable to the idea of running Northam out of town ... personally.

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
10. WAPO says the same. Do you trust a law professor at UVA quoted by WAPO?
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:39 PM
Feb 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/justin-fairfax-would-become-virginias-2nd-black-governor-if-northam-resigns/2019/02/02/a632c054-266a-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html?utm_term=.57f34fd38742
Dick Howard, a law professor at the University of Virginia and expert on the state constitution, told The Washington Post Friday that Fairfax would still be able to run for a full four-year term as governor in 2021, because he had been appointed — not elected — to the office in the wake of Northam’s resignation.

Howard said he believed the state constitution calls for the governor to appoint a new lieutenant governor if there is a vacancy, until a special election could be held in the next November general election. That would mean Fairfax would appoint a lieutenant governor to serve through the rest of the year. That person could either be a placeholder, or could run in November to serve out the remainder of Fairfax’s term.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. That is a slightly more comforting, yes :)
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019

However, I cannot discount the verbiage used, to whit:

"Howard said he believed ... "

That is not quite the same as 'WAPO says ... ', is it?

This is 'WAPO reports someone says' ... the way I read it.

And furthermore, if there's ANY FRIGGIN QUESTION as to the process of appointing a new Lt Gov, you KNOW the GOP in the VA legislature are going to angle for the privilege of doing so as hard as they possibly can. The fact that we're only at the point of "I Believe (this is the rule)" ... makes me nervous.

I also really wonder ... who's behind this photo's release?

Frankly I kinda hope it's Fairfax's team, because I think he's well within his rights to do so for one reason, but also because then I wouldn't worrying that the GOP is behind this.

I say that because the likelihood that GOP is behind this WITHOUT a plan to then oust Fairfax somehow, in order to put a GOPper in place ... seems remote.

Especially when you consider that by his attaining office in this manner, a Black Man is set up to potentially govern Virginia for 6 YEARS. I cannot imagine that the GOP would scheme to get Northam out (who they have reason to believe is racist, apparently) to usher in Fairfax, maybe for 6 years.



hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
14. In the vernacular a MSM source "says" means they "report"... Geez I provided the link
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:12 PM
Feb 2019

so you don't have to take my paraphrase. Believe what you will. There have been other VA lawyers who have said the same on MSNBC and CNN. I have provided reporting from two such sources from media reporting.

On the other hand, those who continue to propagate the CT that a R-legislature gets to decide have provided exactly ZERO sources for their assertions, yet how many on this thread took it as true?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. No offense intended, I'm only saying I've yet to see cut/dry evidence, only 'this is what I think'
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019

with regards to 'how it works'.

I'm disturbed by the notion frankly that nobody in a true position of authority has yet said POSITIVELY ... 'this IS the rule' that the new Governor gets to choose his/her Lieutenant.

Seems like someone would be able to quote a law book somewhere and there'd not be 'opinions' involved.

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
18. Really? yet all but one other on this thread did not question the assertion sans any evidence
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:25 PM
Feb 2019

provided that the Republican- led Legislature determines the next Lt. Gov, with the added bit of conspiracy theory that this was all part of the plan. You didn't question it either, it appears.

So, CT assertions are fine sans any evidence whatsoever, but WAPO citing a well known constitutional scholar and UVA professor is suspect.

Is this the Northam "effect?"

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
19. It has never been adjudicated because it hasn't occurred. BUT the issue is there is no legislation
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:35 PM
Feb 2019

nor constitutional inclusion that designates the legislature as legally designated to name a Lt. Governor in the case of a vacancy. In the absence of such specific designation, it defaults to the Governor as in nearly every state in the US. If you have watched any CNN or MSNBC coverage, they've made this clear.

krawhitham

(4,647 posts)
12. If he is racist, he can't resign because the Lt. Gov is black
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 06:45 PM
Feb 2019

If he truly believes he's not racist just was a dumb kid, he sees no reason to resign

Either way he will not resign unless the pressure is to much for him to handle

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
17. when I went to bed last night I was leaning toward him not resigning
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:19 PM
Feb 2019

but I spoke with my granddaughter today (she lives in the Tidewater area), and I'm about his ass vacating the governor's mansion.

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