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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 04:58 AM Feb 2019

Why did the Northam photo come out a day after his abortion comments?

I do think it is worth taking note of the sequence of events here.

1. Northam makes comments about abortion that enrage conservatives

2. Conservatives find the offensive photo of Northam

3. Prominent Democrats call on Northam to resign

All of this occurred over a period of two days.

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Why did the Northam photo come out a day after his abortion comments? (Original Post) oberliner Feb 2019 OP
Funny that..... OnDoutside Feb 2019 #1
The timing is very odd oberliner Feb 2019 #2
'Someone' has been keeping some of the old 'powder dry' for such an 'occasion'. empedocles Feb 2019 #3
Without a doubt. The hot favourite appears to be an anti abortion activist, but then Northam was OnDoutside Feb 2019 #6
AND photo was published by ... MFGsunny Feb 2019 #33
Exactly oberliner Feb 2019 #34
They had the photo waiting for the perfect moment? n/t malaise Feb 2019 #4
3 days befoe election would have been perfect. 3Hotdogs Feb 2019 #7
Because Roger Stone is still on the streets... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2019 #5
really good point, thanks. MBS Feb 2019 #8
Thanks oberliner Feb 2019 #9
Conservatives had the photo for years. yardwork Feb 2019 #10
They were waiting for the right moment to go public with it? oberliner Feb 2019 #11
Looks that way, doesn't it? yardwork Feb 2019 #12
I don't know why they wouldn't have released it right before his 2017 election bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #16
Would it? More whites might have voted for him because of it. yardwork Feb 2019 #19
+1 dalton99a Feb 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author RhodeIslandOne Feb 2019 #39
Yes it does oberliner Feb 2019 #20
Gillespie would have lost white votes to Northam if it came out during the campaign Recursion Feb 2019 #31
They've probably got dirt on a whole lot of Democrats and they're holding it for a special event. Vinca Feb 2019 #13
That was what I was thinking oberliner Feb 2019 #21
Politics is a dirty business... HipChick Feb 2019 #14
One of the commentators on MSNBC made that DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #15
Would the photo not had been released if it wasn't for the abortion comments? oberliner Feb 2019 #23
No idea DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #32
This is not unique melm00se Feb 2019 #17
And things can be publicized so quickly and easily today oberliner Feb 2019 #25
I imagine a lot of yearbooks were gone through pintobean Feb 2019 #18
Ancestry.com customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #30
I must admit that I hadn't considered it. nt Baltimike Feb 2019 #24
Does it matter? Northram gave them the ammunition. Claritie Pixie Feb 2019 #26
But would it have come out had it not been for the abortion comments? oberliner Feb 2019 #28
Then why didn't the media post this before the primary? Polybius Feb 2019 #35
This is larger than Northam. no_hypocrisy Feb 2019 #27
The medical school has said it was a student-produced publication oberliner Feb 2019 #29
it's irrelevant bigtree Feb 2019 #36
It seems like the timing was not coincidental oberliner Feb 2019 #37
then it shouldn't make any difference in calls to resign bigtree Feb 2019 #38
I don't think it makes any difference in calls to resign oberliner Feb 2019 #42
You're a piece of work RhodeIslandOne Feb 2019 #40
The story has definitely been gripping to me oberliner Feb 2019 #41
Keeping it alive. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #43
LOOK AT ME JI7 Feb 2019 #44

OnDoutside

(19,972 posts)
1. Funny that.....
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 05:27 AM
Feb 2019

Strange that they never found the photo during the campaign. You would have thought an oppo research would have turned that up.

It smells, but as we saw with Franken, once big Dems start piling in, in case they be accused of not taking it seriously, then there is no way back.

What effect will a republican lt governor have on a dem governor ?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. 'Someone' has been keeping some of the old 'powder dry' for such an 'occasion'.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 07:13 AM
Feb 2019

'Occasion' the word, has some old roots meaning 'fall'.

OnDoutside

(19,972 posts)
6. Without a doubt. The hot favourite appears to be an anti abortion activist, but then Northam was
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 08:32 AM
Feb 2019

pro choice when he ran for Governor. And if this person was a Republican, surely they would have dropped this during the campaign ?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. Exactly
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:59 PM
Feb 2019

It seems like they dug it up or had it ready to go and put it out in response to the abortion comments.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
8. really good point, thanks.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 08:54 AM
Feb 2019

It had seemed too me so odd that this photo was surfacing only now, after all these years. Hadn't pieced together the timing with the abortion comments-

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
16. I don't know why they wouldn't have released it right before his 2017 election
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:33 AM
Feb 2019

All the polling was showing it would be neck-and-neck. Would have been the perfect time.

Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #16)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
31. Gillespie would have lost white votes to Northam if it came out during the campaign
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:39 AM
Feb 2019

They would have run it if Stewart had the R nomination

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
13. They've probably got dirt on a whole lot of Democrats and they're holding it for a special event.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:13 AM
Feb 2019

What happens if we're a week before the next general election and something drops on our candidate? We need to think about how we react to things because in an age where everyone seems to post every tidbit of their lives online, someday we'll have the best candidate ever who posted a naked selfie on the Internet when he or she was 17. There has to be some thought given to the things we do when young and dumb. And no, I don't consider 25 to be young and dumb, but I think what has happened in the 35 years after deserves a bit of consideration. Whether he resigns or stays is his choice, but we need to come to terms with what we can and cannot live with (still annoyed about Franken).

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. That was what I was thinking
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:52 AM
Feb 2019

Lord knows what is being sat on at this point to be released at a particular time for maximum impact.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
15. One of the commentators on MSNBC made that
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:32 AM
Feb 2019

same point. It was something to the effect of doing the right thing by saving the right to choose, but now has to resign because that action triggered the release of the yearbook photo. Sort of like dying for a cause.

melm00se

(4,996 posts)
17. This is not unique
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:33 AM
Feb 2019

nor limited to just Democratic politicians.

Think back on tweets and photos that pop up in close proximity a public (or soon to be very public) person being named for something.

There are people who have nothing better to do than comb thru the online records of people and publicize old online records as if they were (self-appointed) guardians of society.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. And things can be publicized so quickly and easily today
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:55 AM
Feb 2019

Everything seems to happen lightning fast.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
18. I imagine a lot of yearbooks were gone through
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:36 AM
Feb 2019

after the Kavanaugh hearings. We'll probably be seeing more of this.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
30. Ancestry.com
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:38 AM
Feb 2019

even has old yearbooks digitized and indexed, making it easy to search for the ones that have been processed this way. I did a genealogical search for a fellow I met at a bar, and he supplied me with his parents' names. Three hours after we parted company, I sent him a pedigree chart of his ancestors going back for four generations, on all lines. Plus, I found a picture of him from his veterinary school to add to the mix!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. But would it have come out had it not been for the abortion comments?
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:02 AM
Feb 2019

It had been available to be found for many years.

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
27. This is larger than Northam.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:59 AM
Feb 2019

Consider this:

1. The yearbook published the photo by choice. This gives the imprimatur of support from not only the medical school but also the region, perhaps the state.

2. The faculty advisor saw the photo and approved it for publication. See #1.

3. This is cause-and-effect: Let a democratic governor attempt to bolster and protect reproductive rights and s/he will be smacked down. Republicans have the Roger Stone-Lee Atwater strategy in place to let Democrats destroy other Democrats.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
29. The medical school has said it was a student-produced publication
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:03 AM
Feb 2019

But you would think they would have had some oversight and not wanted the school to be associated with such photos.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
36. it's irrelevant
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 12:58 AM
Feb 2019

...and the question is being used by some to deflect from the photo.

What part of your 'sequence of events' would you change if you could?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
37. It seems like the timing was not coincidental
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:04 AM
Feb 2019

If he had not made the abortion comments, would the photo have been made public?

The part of the sequence of events I would change would be having the photo released earlier, preferably by Northam himself, prior to the Democratic primary for governor.

That way he could present his explanation and the voters could make their determination accordingly.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
38. then it shouldn't make any difference in calls to resign
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:53 AM
Feb 2019

...who uncovered it or why the photo was revealed.

Curious pursuit.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. I don't think it makes any difference in calls to resign
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:34 AM
Feb 2019

I think it just shows how the right-wing potentially sits on damaging info and releases it strategically.

In this case, though, the strategy may end up backfiring if Fairfax takes over as governor.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. The story has definitely been gripping to me
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 08:33 AM
Feb 2019

The twists and turns - the original statement followed by the denial - the bizarre press conference.

I have been riveted and eager to share information with my DU friends.

There have been so many insightful posts here about it - I am grateful to be a part of this community.

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