Anti-Vaxx Mom Asks How To Protect Her Unvaccinated 3-Year-Old From The Measles Outbreak, Internet

[OnlinePoker]

Delivers.

Having recently run a post about an enterprising 15-year-old looking to protect himself from preventable diseases after his parents let him down, now we have the other side of the coin. In the midst of a public health emergency in Washington state, in an area with a higher-than-average percentage of vaccine exemptions (what a coincidence!), one anti-vaxx mom has looked for advice on how to protect her 3-year-old from the measles outbreak.

“My 3-year-old is not vaccinated and there is currently a measles outbreak in my state,” she wrote in a group called Vaccine Education Network: Natural Health Anti-Vaxx Community. “Any suggestions for precautions I can take to protect her would be very much appreciated.”

https://www.boredpanda.com/anti-vaxxer-asking-measles-protection-advice/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=lmaomommy
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Some of these replies are brutally hilarious.

[still_one]

1. My favorite, "build a wall around her and let the vaccinated folks pay for it"

[malaise]

3. Hope that left a mark

[MyOwnPeace]

6. Oh, SNAP!!!!!!!

Good pick, that one!

[malaise]

7. Hehehehe

[still_one]

20. There were very brutal ones as the OP pointed out that should have had an impact

[smirkymonkey]

11. My fave: "Whenever I get the measles, I always eat two Tide Pods and wash

them down with a gallon of bleach. That cures it every time."

[still_one]

33. That'll work for sure

[olegramps]

24. Buy life insurance and a funeral plan could be appropriate suggestion for this nutcase.

These idiots should be jailed for child abuse and their kids put in protective custody.

[MineralMan]

4. Doh!

Mom's not too bright, apparently.

[MyOwnPeace]

5. Love when some recommend.........

the Republican answer to gun violence:

"Thoughts and prayers"

[Siwsan]

8. I worry, every day, about my great-niece

Her parents are hard core, inflexible vegans so they avoid anything that they even THINK may involve some sort of animal testing or by-product. And to make it even worse, my nephew is big time into reading conspiracy web sites. Doesn't matter what his uncle, the family practice physician, says. It seems that nut job strangers on the internet have more credibility.

My great-niece has just started at a Montessori pre-school. I hope most of the kids ARE vaccinated.

[haele]

17. Montessori schools and pre-schools require vaccinations due to liability issues.

Just as public schools and the Head Start pre-school programs do. At least the Montessori schools here in San Diego do.

I can't see them allowing her into a long-term group setting like a daily school - unless the owner of the pre-school is also an anti-vaxxer or the state allows private schools to be ad hoc or unregulated.

I also don't think their insurance carrier will allow the school to be bonded unless there's a requirement that all children need to be vaccinated in accordance with state and federal guidelines.

Haele

[Siwsan]

18. My niece is working at the school

They are in the Asheville area. I know she's started school, there so they must not require vaccinations.

I keep hoping a light goes off in their heads. I know they started the vaccinations, when she was born, but then made the decision to not complete them.

[dewsgirl]

23. I know in Florida, you have to have a yellow card which is your up to date vaccinations.

That is for pre K and even nursery school, I believe.

[Arkansas Granny]

9. PBS NewsHour did a segment a few days ago about the measles outbreak.

The person they interviewed went into great detail about the possible consequences of not vaccinating against measles. He even gave advice about how to talk to parents who are anti-vaxxers in order to persuade them to have their children immunized. He stressed not to ridicule them or antagonize them since that would just make some of them refuse to listen any further. Many of them truly believe that the vaccinations can do harm to their children.

Honestly, I don't understand why parents don't immunize their children, but this guy had the facts and made a lot of sense. It made me think twice about the scorn I've heaped on the anti-vaxxers.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/washington-states-measles-outbreak-coincides-with-low-rates-of-immunization

[Aristus]

13. Not me. I'm perfectly happy heaping scorn on anti-vaxxers, making them cry,

and then telling their mammas about it.

I could never have any respect for anyone who deliberately endangers their children and the loved ones of others just because a Playboy Playmate told them something idiotic and not supported by any evidence understood and respected by anyone above the cognitive level of a coked-up chimpanzee.

[MissB]

32. .

[akraven]

34. I am stealing cognitive level of a coked-up chimpanzee!

These anti-vaxxers are child murderers.

[3catwoman3]

38. Aristus, you really need to learn how...

...to express yourself more clearly - ambiguity can be problematic.

( thingie should be totally superfluous, but just in case)

[luvtheGWN]

28. I wonder if anyone has discussed this pertinent fact:

If a woman is planning/hoping to get pregnant, she is advised to get a rubella (German measles) vaccine as there is considerable research showing that being infected with rubella can have very harmful effects on the fetus. I had chicken pox, red measles and mumps as a child and teenager, but my obstetrician insisted on the rubella vaccine.

Also, a young man who contracts mumps has a 50/50 chance of becoming sterile.

Do these anti-vaxxer idiots ever consider this? Are they even told this? Frankly, I think they should be declared unfit parents.

[MicaelS]

46. My late father and his first wife had a still born daughter..

Due to exposure to Rubella. This was back in the mid-fifties.

Fuck all anti-vaxxers.

[msongs]

37. anti vaxxers are ok with YOUR kid dying from measles. nt

[hatrack]

54. Should we also "reach out" to people who forego medical care for their kids . . .

In favor of the power of prayer, or smearing their foreheads with magic oil, or rolling them in butter and pepper, or water-only diets, or whatever it is that Rev. Snakegrabber or Dr. Quack ordain?

Assume you are familiar that in Idaho, the state provides legal immunity to parents who refuse medical care for their children in favor of whatever (prayer, laying on of hands, a quick roll in the snow, whatever).

183 dead so far, that we know of: https://www.idahopress.com/news/local/idahoans-pray-change-will-come-with-faith-healing-exemptions/article_46d4763a-d28e-59fa-aeac-5c41054e2bd1.html

Tired of bending over backwards to soothe the feelings of ignoramuses, particularly when they endanger the lives of others.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. Brilliant responses.

“Don’t get too attached”.

[Initech]

12. We have these certain drugs that can help you, I believe that they're called vaccines.

[AwakeAtLast]

14. On another website

An anti-vaccine person actually wrote, "LOL, Measles aren't deadly!"

They were serious.

The tragedy is that these people are probably immunized themselves. They are just putting their children in harms way.

[erronis]

26. And all other children who come in contact. Vaccines are not 100% so we need the majority

to be vaccinated to prevent the herd effect from allowing the spread.

Also think about those of us who may be elderly, weakened immune systems, legitimately can't take some vaccines.

One of my friends who didn't want the flu vaccine was not allowed to be near her brand-new grand-daughter until she had the vaccine and it had time to work. Tough love!

[defacto7]

30. Millions died in the plagues during the time of ancient Rome

that lasted for generations covering Europe and much of Asia. It is fairly well determined to have been measles.

[EffieBlack]

15. My favorite

"If you did enough research to decide not to vaccinate your child, wouldn't you have researched alternate ways to protect your child?"

[Ms. Toad]

21. That was my favorite, as well.

I selectively vaccinate - and my research always includes both sides of the question - the risks of vaccination (mostly personal due to atypical immune system) v. the risks of the disease, taking into account the effectiveness of the vaccine. To decide not to vaccinate by looking only at one piece of the puzzle is utterly irresponsible.

[aggiesal]

31. My favorite was ...

"I hope you named her Girl."

[IronLionZion]

16. Always consult social media, not any doctors

that mom is probably vaccinated, she just doesn't love her daughter enough to do it for her.

[Johnny2X2X]

19. Wow

Hilarious.

Repeat after me, there is no link between autism and vaccines.

[NastyRiffraff]

47. There is not, and even if there were

Is autism really worse than death from a preventable disease? I know that sounds odd, but autistic people aren't diseased or helpless; many are very intelligent.

This is what never made sense to me about the anti-vax I don't want my kid to be autistic people. True, nobody wants that, but there are worse things. Like death.

[Apollyonus]

22. It cracked me up .. thanks for the post n/t

[SWBTATTReg]

25. If a child dies because of not being vaccinated, by parents or guardians, the parents should ...

be charged with murder. No excuses other than the normal ones (e.g., child is too young to be vaccinated, etc.). Too much evidence is out there on the clear benefits of vaccines, and lack of knowledge is no excuse (the same as it is in other crimes).

[virgogal]

36. I can't agree with you there.

I am pro-vax but murder charges ,or any other criminal charges.should not happen.

[SWBTATTReg]

40. Perhaps you're right. However, I'd like to hear from those parents whose kids get sick from...

unvaccinated kids being sick...it does kind of put the blame on those getting sick too, though, being that they got sick from a preventable disease, didn't they have the vaccine too? It's a mess all around and society is going to end up paying for this folks who seem to think that vaccines don't work.

[OnlinePoker]

41. So what's your opinion of this case from Canada?

Alberta parents convicted in toddler's meningitis death

A packed Lethbridge, Alta., courtroom erupted with emotion on Tuesday afternoon, after two parents accused of letting their son die from bacterial meningitis were found guilty.

David Stephan, 32, and Collet Stephan, 36, were charged a year after their nearly 19-month-old son Ezekiel died in March 2012, under Section 215 of the Criminal Code which deals with "failing to provide the necessaries of life."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/meningitis-trial-verdict-1.3552941

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To me, there's no difference in not vaccinating your kid because of junk science and trying to treat you child with herbs because of junk science.

[virgogal]

44. My opinion is the same----and I disagree

with all of the parents involved.

They are being penalized for their beliefs.

[hatrack]

55. No, they're being penalized because their child DIED through their neglect

[Codeine]

56. No, they'll be penalized for their actions,

or rather inactions; they can believe whatever they want, but they’d better vaccinate their kids or they’ll pay the price when their inaction results in a dead child.

[irisblue]

27. Rubella Virus. AKA German Measels + birth defects

Link-http://www.virology.ws/2016/02/17/rubella-virus-and-birth-defects/

http://www.virology.ws/2016/02/17/rubella-virus-and-birth-defects/


snip-Congenital rubella syndrome (CRS) is the name give to fetal defects caused by rubella virus infection. These include eye manifestations (cataracts, glaucoma, retinitis), congenital heart defects, hearing loss, microcephaly, bone disease, mental retardation, and diabetes. When a pregnant mother is infected early in pregnancy, the virus crosses the placenta and infects most fetal organ systems. No animal models are available to study how the virus causes tissue damage.

Signs and Symptoms
Rubella is a mild disease associated with low grade fever, swollen lymph nodes and a morbilliform rash. Before a vaccine was available, infection typically occurred between 5-9 years of age. In 1942 the opthalmologist Norman Gregg found that many children with cataracts also had other serious congenital defects. He noticed that an epidemic of congenital cataracts was preceded by a rubella outbreak, and proposed that cataracts and other abnormalities were caused by maternal infection during pregnancy. Eventually other investigators confirmed that rubella virus could cause fetal defects when infection of the mother occurred in the first trimester of pregnancy.

More at article. The author was comparing & contrasting rubella to zika.
I do not know if this outbreak is rubella, I do know that Aunt Sues' late 50s miscarriage was attributed to German Measles exposure.

[ET Awful]

29. I'm surprised nobody responded that "people like you are the reason for the outbreak" n/t

[enid602]

35. Suggestions

1. Home school the child.
2. Let him only watch Fox News.
3. Don’t let him eat in pizza parlors in Northern Virginia.
4. Get him the Wonder Bible, as seen on TV.
5. Pay for measles conversion therapy.

[Retrograde]

42. The Wonder Bible?

The things I miss by not watching television (aside from Maddow, O'Donnell, and The Daily Show - and even then I fast forward over the commercials).

[enid602]

43. Bible

Google commercials for Wonder Bible. It’s a hoot.l aq

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

57. At first, I didn't think of a bible, ...

But, it is a classic, and maybe a version that supports white supremacists,

[virgogal]

45. You are politicising a non-political subject. Not funny!

People on both sides of the aisle differ on vaccinations.

[PJMcK]

52. Your science seems pretty sketchy

When the vast majority of doctors support vaccinations but misinformed people ignore their professional knowledge it reminds me of "both sides" of the global climate change issue.

One side is plainly dead wrong.

Do you understand the scientific method and how it applies to vaccines?

[hatrack]

58. Project much?

Your post is truly pathetic.

[virgogal]

59. Thank you.

[3catwoman3]

39. Here is a link to a well-done Jimmy Kimmel segment...

...on this very topic -

https://whatstrending.com/viral/funny/17614-jimmy-kimmel-vaccine-psa/

[central scrutinizer]

48. We've lost our oral history

It's been several generations since childhood deaths were common. I went to a family reunion 10 years ago. Many of the branches of the family tree shared their histories. It was a rare family in the 19th century that didn't lose children. The extreme example: one couple had nine children, only two lived to become adults. My neighbor had a daughter who contracted polio and was severely physically disabled. The "herd immunity" has given too many people a false sense of security.

We vaccinated our daughter against everything, including the HPV virus as soon as it became available.

[keithbvadu2]

49. Move your family into deepest Siberia and not be found for decades.

Move your family into deepest Siberia and not be found for decades.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=3cJTXProAtWz0PEP1fur4AM&q=family+moves+to+deepest+siberia&btnK=Google+Search&oq=family+moves+to+deepest+siberia&gs_l=psy-ab.3...27360.35207..37004...1.0..0.849.6128.0j30j2j6-1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....0..35i39j0i131j0j0i10j33i22i29i30j33i160.5lHqDzpzXKY

And then many die off because they have no immunity form newly introduced ailments such as the common cold.

[jalan48]

50. During the plague in the Middle Ages some thought they could avoid it if they breathed the odors

of their open toilets (they were outside back then). She might try this though it didn't appear to work very well last time..

[RandySF]

51. .

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[Wawannabe]

53. First time I've see Gohilla facepalm!

Noice!!!

Lol

[ck4829]

61. K&R