Why the armed FBI raid on Stone? Maybe this.

[edbermac]

Roger Stone was arrested by the FBI last week on 7 counts including lying to congress and witness tampering. Stone has been making the media circuit rounds this week to complain about how he was treated. He told reporters, “To storm my house with greater force than was used to take down bin Laden or El Chapo or Pablo Escobar, to terrorize my wife and my dogs … It’s unconscionable.”

In December of 2017, Stone filmed a video with Alex Jones, that may have given the FBI reason to worry. In the segment, Stone and the controversial Infowars host fire a variety of semi-automatic weapons. The video was titled: Roger Stone Prepares For Civil War After Trump Is Removed From Office: LIVE AUTO GUNFIRE.”

Prior to filming the video, Stone told TMZ, “We do not advocate violence or foment violence, but if there is a coup d’etat, if there is an illegitimate unconstitutional effort to remove Donald Trump on trumped-up charges by a biased and partisan prosecutors (sic) or an illegitimate takedown by the 25th Amendment, there will be a civil war in this country.”

Stone appeared on Jones’ show shortly after his arrest. Jones has repeatedly expressed a willingness to take up arms in a fight against Democrats or during a “race war”.

In the video, Stone says, ““The Trump constituency has been awakened and they will not be put to sleep.” He also claims a willingness to use weapons to “defend the constitution.”

While Stone’s rhetoric during the segment was incendiary, he sang a much different tune to reporters this week. The former adviser to President Trump lamented, “I’m 66 years old. I do not own a gun. I do not have a valid passport. I have no prior criminal record. I’m charged with nonviolent process crimes.”

https://hillreporter.com/roger-stone-threatened-to-take-up-arms-if-trump-was-removed-illegitimately-22923

[marble falls]

1. I hope this story get wide-assed play.

[IronLionZion]

6. "wide-assed play"

[DirtEdonE]

11. Very well "wide-assed played"

I laughed out loud when I saw that. DD

[marble falls]

28. ***URP*** Hey, how about a trigger warning!!!!

[malaise]

8. Someone should send it to Lindsey Graham n/t

[Scarsdale]

19. Graham would

have each one blown up poster size and framed for his office. He is a BIG fan.

[marble falls]

51. He's back and forth on Trump and Trump's issues. He's trying to cover himself so no matter ...

which way cheetolini falls, he'll come up shrugging his shoulders with an I told you so expression.

[lunatica]

52. Big Ass Fan!

[onit2day]

45. What amazes me is how their tremendous egos think they speak for the nation

I laugh when someone who only knows less than a hundred people starts acting like they know how the thousands will respond...usually just like they want them to. Trump is taking down Trump. No one can be blamed for the results of his being exposed except Trump. He has already begun rushing back to Putin yet Stone thinks Americans are the traitors for exposing his actions. Another in Hillary's basket of deplorables (boy did she ever get that one right). We are not threatened by these rock throwers especially since the sociopathic idiots are so easily defined...they are the ones still supporting Trump

[yonder]

49. +1. Amen

[marble falls]

53. They have to believe it. And when they don't, they have to monkey dance like they do ...

until they can think of an exit plan. I think that's the problem for them, they never thought about it all going bad. In Haiti Baby Doc grabbed the wealth and went to the south of France. Trump will be in Moscow, broke. He was a crappy dictator and he'll die in exile on someone else's tab.

[spanone]

2. K&R...

[malaise]

3. K & R

for truth

[wishstar]

4. Also his indictment cites his threat of "Prepare to die" to Mueller witness

He may claim hyperbole but he used some very threatening language which were basis for witness tampering and obstruction charges

[scarytomcat]

25. yes you go in with max force, I'm sure they used even more on the list of character he mentioned

get a grip old man you are under arrest this not a walk in the park

[oasis]

5. I volunteer to do a citizen's arrest on his sorry ass next time.

And I won't be gentle.

[MyOwnPeace]

10. On advice from IQ45:

"Don't bother putting your hand over his head when you put him into the squad car!"

Wonder if "Dear Lindsey" asked about that, too..........

[Marcuse]

40. "Don't be so nice!"

[lunatica]

55. Rubbing tummy and patting head at the same time

That’s what it looks like he’s trying to do.

[DirtEdonE]

14. Just keep repeating

"STOP RESISTING!" over and over.

[Lars39]

7. Wasn't it also reported that Stone was using Proud Boys as security?

[DirtEdonE]

15. Yep.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-proud-boys-became-roger-stones-personal-army-6

[Lars39]

26. Thanks, DirtEdonE.

And welcome to DU!

[DirtEdonE]

29. You're welcome

And thanks for the welcome!

[tulipsandroses]

9. I'm so sick of the faux outrage over Stone's arrest. Where was the concern for minorities

actually killed by law enforcement? Korryn Gaines dead over traffic violations when law enforcement showed up at her home to serve a warrant. I can go on and on.

I am insulted as a person of color over this faux outrage. But as usual, these bastards want to 2 justice systems. One where its OK for POC to be abused by law enforcement and one where whites or people with money or connections should be treated with kid gloves. GTFOH.

[Traildogbob]

16. Whiny little bitches

Que.....Chris Mathews. Someone send him this info. He went all in on poor Roger Stone being abused in the arrest.

[calimary]

23. Roger Stone made threats. Real ones. And there wasn't much to indicate he was joking.

Especially when viewed in context.

[scarytomcat]

27. true that

he was taken down
they had no choose but to come in strong

[Raster]

48. Not only that...

...the "Proud Boys" have been recently acting as his personal praetorian guard, so no telling what the Feds could expect.

[Major Nikon]

30. He made a death threat against a federal witness

The snowflakes who express such outrage are idiots.

[volstork]

12. "greater force than was used to take down bin Laden"

Um.... bin Laden is dead, so I think not.

Poor, poor roger. SO mistreated.

[progree]

22. Yeah. I wish the force used against Stone had been something like that, with these people watching

[irisblue]

32. he did say Osama was treated better then he was. Stone isn't in the Indian Ocean fish food tray

WaPo-"The Fix | Analysis

Roger Stone claimed more force was used on him than at the bin Laden and El Chapo raids. Nope.
By Alex Horton

January 28, 2019 at 4:22 PM"

[progree]

33. Yes, I agree - I was trying to support volstork in #12 making that point.

That photo was the Situation Room watching the raid on Bin Laden. I was wishing that similar had happened in the Stone raid, with the same outcome.

[erronis]

36. Gee, thanks. Guess we all need to wonder what bits of bin Laden are in our shrimp, scallops, etc.

Having heard that the Indian Ocean and other bodies of water around SE Asia are well stocked with human discards.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. Ya...and wasn't he is a hole? Easier to defend against

Than a whole house. Although what I heard was that it was about him destroying records. Although he said he thought he would be indicted a long time ago. If he still had evidence in his house he's very stupid.

[Aviation Pro]

13. Your shot group....

….sucks, motherfucker.

Remind me how much time in service you have, coward.

[Achilleaze]

17. Little Lindsey (R) will be so sad that his whining is found out as fake

Whiney republican traitors are such a bore...

[LakeSuperiorView]

18. Or this?

If a terrorist organization is supporting a suspect, then best to go prepared when you arrest them.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-proud-boys-became-roger-stones-personal-army-6


The Proud Boys are a neo-fascist group that glorifies violence against opponents, particularly on the left. Designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, the group and its members have been involved in a series of bloody brawls across the country over the past three years, leading to the recent departure of founder Gavin McInnes.

he’s grown tighter with the violent ultra-nationalist group, hiring them as security and participating in the group’s videos—even repeating its slogan.

[Martin Eden]

64. Given Stone's association with violent neofascists

The overwhelming force deployed in his arrest was a prudent measre to prevent violent resistance.

[LakeSuperiorView]

65. Bingo.

Lindsey's military training will be considered as well, if needed.

[bigbrother05]

20. Wow, guess they sent in Seal Team 6 to get him?

No one died and no reported injuries, just awakened before 6 am and led away without his morning cuppa.

No black ops helos or door breaches, just the FBI team to take him into custody and others to conduct the warranted search of his home.

Talk about a sensitive snowflake, must have been the restraints.

[MyOwnPeace]

43. "Talk about a sensitive snowflake"

Well, it WAS Lindsey - you know, the one that thinks any war he has ever seen or heard of is a good one - oh, and we've gotta' have "law & order" except when the Repugs get caught on the wrong side of it.

[bigbrother05]

46. Yep, LG was demanding we go into Syria long before we engaged

His "Bomb, Bomb" buddy was right there with him to push us farther into the sinkhole that is the Middle East.

Lindsey was only a Reserve JAG officer, but John knew better than most what happens when there are no clear objectives besides "we've got to do SOMETHING!"

[zentrum]

21. I'm almost starting to

..believe that Stone believes his own guano.

I always thought it was just calculated and cynical but now I think he's an actual madman.

Miller-Bannon-Stone-Trump-Jones have built a cult around their white supremacy/toxic masculine paranoia. Cults are more dangerous than even the old style Repug.

[gordianot]

24. At some point these big talkers will realize a Jesus moment.

He warned them about swords and they will not get off easy when someone loses an ear.

[SergeStorms]

31. Blame the messenger.

Let's not blame Stone for being a lying, thieving, violent criminal. Let's blame the FBI for arresting Roger and disturbing his beauty sleep (along with his poor wife and dog, since they should KNOW what a piece of crap he is!), and using the force they deemed necessary to protect themselves and all evidence within Stone's home.

"Law and Order"republicans. What a bunch of sobbing snowflakes!

[PJMcK]

34. This quote illustrates Stone's ridiculous hyperbole

To storm my house with greater force than was used to take down bin Laden or El Chapo or Pablo Escobar, to terrorize my wife and my dogs … It’s unconscionable.

Odd, wasn't bin Laden killed during the raid on his compound?

Stone is an idiot.

[Texin]

35. Well, some within the DOJ & FBI stated that they did it to prevent document destruction.

Obviously, such destruction could have been (and probably was, frankly) being done prior to his arrest last Friday. He's had months to prepare for it, but I seriously believe that the SP probably had already obtained much of this information long prior to his actual arrest. This investigation has been ongoing for nearly two years. I don't doubt that there may have been some concern that he's a known owner of multiple weapons, some of them automatic, but I don't believe they had any more concern for this physical safety than they would for other white collar arrestees.

Strange that since he's been in the spotlight for some time on now as being next up for his own very personal "time in the barrel." It's mystifying that he didn't try to bug out to Andorra or some nice place on the planet to escape federal prosecution. Why would that be? Oh, yeah. I know. It's because he wanted his arrest to be a spectacle for him to exploit on right wing nut websites and on Fux Spews.

[FakeNoose]

37. Possibly, to some extent

However Stone has had advance warning and plenty of time to destroy any evidence he was hiding. In many ways this wasn't a surprise raid, at all. So I tend to think the OP is correct that the feds were ready in case Stone tried to use weapons.

Take heed Roger Stone - words do matter! You asked for this.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. poor baby was scared

Grow some stones, Stone.

They can always dish it out, but never take it.

[SunSeeker]

39. Roger Stone and Alex Jones are sick assholes. nt

[usaf-vet]

41. Now let's see a video with someone shooting back.

The cockiness would be gone with the first incoming round.

Loud mouth cowards.

[Thekaspervote]

42. 2 things..stone had mtgs with dotard advisors the night b4, was something overheard by the FBI

That made them think they should act this way? Secondly, stone is a unrepentant democracy hating traitorous thug, pure and simple..act like a thug get treated like one

[Toorich]

44. Plenty of Time to destroy evidence....

....and evident knowledge that he was a target.
But, like Michael Cohen, Manafort and others, I'm
betting he just couldn't get rid of the burner phones,
texts, emails and any other evidence that proves his
treason. They think they are untouchable.
These criminals have been running rampant since the
Nixon days.
Ford's pardon of Nixon.
Obama and Pelosi's refusal to consider war crimes prosecutions
for the Cheney/Bush cabal -"must look forward, not backward"-
The Bush I pardons of Iran/Contra henchmen Casper Weinberger and others
on eve of trial which covered-up Reagan's crimes.
Hell, they have been untouchable, and unless Trump is prosecuted and/or
convicted in an impeachment trial they will remain American oligarchs and
beyond the reach of justice.
"This is all ye know and all ye need to know."-Hunter S. Thompson

[Zo Zig]

47. Steal your face

Grateful Dead artwork has now been stolen by nazis?

[yonder]

50. Stone's a chameleon and been doing this it's whole life.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

54. As I see it. The problem is not Stone. He's an amoral sociopathic piece

of dog shit who has zero redeeming qualities. The problem is these assholes in the useless corporate press who keep treating this pus filled chancre sore as if he was anything but. As if every single word that comes out of his mouth wasn't bullshit. They've been playing this little game for decades now. Fuck them and him. They deserve each other.

[Turbineguy]

56. These fucks are desperate for a civil war.

Do these idiots realize that if they shoot a bunch of Democrats they may be forced to get a real job for the first time in their lives?

On the other hand.....

[onethatcares]

57. ffs

they always talk about using firearms to defend the constitution but they only have one amendment in mind. They don't give a flying f about the rest.

[magicarpet]

59. Confucius say,..

.... those who swim in sewage cesspools,... smell like shit once back on land.

[Cha]

60. Typical trumpASS Liar and Whiner.. Vicious Idiot.

Don't the FBI always have guns drawn when they go in to arrest somebody.. just in case?!

[OnDoutside]

61. What sort of Planet is Stone living on ? Mueller found terabytes of data. Surely someone with even

half a brain would have known that he was in Mueller's sightlines, and yet he kept all that data in his house. Even Manafort moved stuff to a storage locker !

[DeminPennswoods]

62. Stone sent all kinds of threatening emails/texts

to Randy Credico, too.

Stone is full of BS, hot air and braggadacio, but he has made threats over the years. Law enforcement can't afford to take that stuff lightly because you never know.

[Martin Eden]

63. Stone says he doesn't foment violence ...

... while firing high powered weapons and advocating a "civil war" if Trump is impeached.

Rather than dismissing them as lunatics, millions of voters eagerly swallow this excrement from the likes of Stone and Alex Jones.

There can be no reasoning with people who are bereft of reason.