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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:03 AM Jan 2019

1 number that proves the shutdown was a GOP disaster by Chris Cillizza........

Source:CNN [link:https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/shutdown-republicans-poll/index.html|

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell never wanted a government shutdown over funding (or lack thereof) for President Donald Trump's border wall. Shutdowns, McConnell argued, rarely work out politically for the party in power. "There is no education in the second kick of a mule," he was fond of telling anyone who asked.

Boy, was Mitch right.

In the wake of the 35-day government shutdown, a new Gallup Poll shows favorability for the Republican Party dipping to just 37% -- down from 45% when Gallup last polled the question in September 2018. (The Democratic favorable number was largely unchanged: 44% in September, 45% now.)

The same poll showed that 50% believed Democrats in Congress acted "more responsibly" in the shutdown negotiations, while just 39% said Trump acted as the more responsible party.

You don't have to be a polling genius to understand what's going on here. The shutdown -- the longest in American history -- tarnished an already banged and battered Republican brand. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

The Point: Given the damage they've already sustained, the prospect of another government shutdown in 16 days has to terrify every single Republican looking toward 2020. And what's even more terrifying? No one -- not even Donald Trump himself -- knows what he will do when faced with another shutdown showdown.
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In other words, Republicans face an uphill battle to defend a President who is taking them and the party down as they defend their seats in the Senate and the House. They leave huge openings for Democrats running for office in 2020 to add to their ranks. THAT is good news for a Democrat to win the White House as well.

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1 number that proves the shutdown was a GOP disaster by Chris Cillizza........ (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 OP
it was a shutdown shakedown Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #1
If the cowardly republican joshdawg Jan 2019 #2
I Hope The Economy Isn't In The Tank In 2020 modrepub Jan 2019 #3
A defeated Trump will not like having his Billions taxed...... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #4
Hard to Collect Federal Taxes on Income Alone modrepub Jan 2019 #6
Check out campaign contributions to leftynyc Jan 2019 #10
There you go, make him pay taxes on what he claims in public to have... LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #8
He'll be homeless and living a van then n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #17
Hmmm... I guess I'd be good with that. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #19
Hell no Apollyonus Jan 2019 #21
I hated that Obama had to take on Bush II's economic mess Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2019 #12
CNN getting into the clickbait headline game oberliner Jan 2019 #5
The 2013 Ted Cruz shutdown was not popular NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #7
The "Stupid" Party has no business being in charge of anything. world wide wally Jan 2019 #9
Of course we know what he's going to do FrankBooth Jan 2019 #11
+1 Exactly right! Brawndo Jan 2019 #13
Except that the emergency is even less popular Apollyonus Jan 2019 #18
Which "one number"? Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #14
The answer is in the 3rd paragrqph........ ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #15
Not your fault - Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #16
2020 Slogan: Want gov't open? Vote D... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #20

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
1. it was a shutdown shakedown
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:10 AM
Jan 2019

The hostage taker failed to get money from it, but is too stupid not to try it again.

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
2. If the cowardly republican
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 05:00 AM
Jan 2019

congressvermin would grow a spine, there would not be another shutdown, there would be no further discussion about the stupid wall, there would be no problem raising the debt limit, but instead there are sleazy, slimy, republicans who apparently love to lick trump's ass and kowtow to his irrational whimsys.

Yeah, those are the people I want in Government.

modrepub

(3,496 posts)
3. I Hope The Economy Isn't In The Tank In 2020
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:46 AM
Jan 2019

Nothing like trying to put out major fires on the first day you are in office. Can't help but think part of the reason Obama was demonized was he was doing emergency economic surgery almost from day 1 trying to stem the bleeding . Most polls I've seen contain a significant number of people who do not seem to remember that the Great Recession started under Bush/Cheney/Greenspan.

I hope the Dems #1 priority in 2021, assuming they sweep, is real tax reform and support of the old marginal rates we had decades ago. I think they will really only get to tackle one big project.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. A defeated Trump will not like having his Billions taxed......
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:03 AM
Jan 2019

To that I would say, "Tough shit, Donnie. "

modrepub

(3,496 posts)
6. Hard to Collect Federal Taxes on Income Alone
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jan 2019

Especially how Trump reports it. What drives me crazy is why it took NY State this long to figure out Trump and his family are doing all kinds of questionable financial dealings?!? I guess the rich and well connected have a different set of tax rules than the poor and middle class.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. Check out campaign contributions to
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

the District Attorney's in all the NYC counties and you'll have your answer.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
19. Hmmm... I guess I'd be good with that.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:06 PM
Jan 2019

As long as it was a shitty van. That had a bad engine. And smelled, but that would be a given.

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
21. Hell no
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

It will be the best and most wonderful van ever .. no other president has ever lived in a van like that in the history of the presidency.

Get with the program will ya?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
12. I hated that Obama had to take on Bush II's economic mess
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

Moreso that a bunch of people dogpiled him for having to focus a lot on the economy and wasn't able to do *everything* that everybody wanted him to do in the short 2 years Democrats had Congress.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. The 2013 Ted Cruz shutdown was not popular
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jan 2019

and hurt the GOP brand in 2013. However, Republicans recovered enough to pick up 9 seats in the Senate in 2014.

FrankBooth

(1,603 posts)
11. Of course we know what he's going to do
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jan 2019
"No one -- not even Donald Trump himself -- knows what he will do when faced with another shutdown showdown. "


We know exactly what Trump is gonna do ... he knows GOPers won't stomach another shutdown, so he's going to declare his "emergency" and send it to the Federal courts where he will get trashed.

Then he'll campaign/fundraise on the court loss and claim he did 'everything I could but the evil liberal cabal stopped me.'

Cillizza is not a good pundit.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
14. Which "one number"?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jan 2019

I see a bunch of numbers in the article - none more prominent or telling than the others, from my perspective.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
16. Not your fault -
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jan 2019

But there are 6 numbers in that paragraph (unless my eyes crossed when counting). i agree that is likely what they are referencing - but if you are going to write an article declaring that one number establishes your entire case, you'd better identify it clearly and connect it to the headline claim.

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