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Baitball Blogger

(46,761 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:43 PM Jan 2019

New Jersey Diners Leave We 'Don't Tip Immigrants' Note For Spanish-Speaking Waitress

A couple reportedly left a cruel note saying “Don't tip immigrants!” for a waitress in a New Jersey cafe after they overheard her speaking Spanish to a colleague. The waitress, who was born in the United States, found the note scrawled in big black letters on the back of the couple's bill for a piece of cake. Owner of the Under The Moon cafe, Santiago Orosco, blasted the “cowardly move” from the couple, saying: “There’s no home in my restaurant for hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobia, discrimination. If anyone feels the same way, don’t come back.” Orosco believes the couple overheard the waitress, whose family emigrated from Uruguay over 30 years ago, speaking Spanish to a coworker. Orosco added: “My place is supposed to be a loving, cozy restaurant, and my family and I worked our asses off to get what we have today. We don’t need that hatred here.”

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New Jersey Diners Leave We 'Don't Tip Immigrants' Note For Spanish-Speaking Waitress (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jan 2019 OP
I will go out on a limb and guess that the couple never tips. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #1
likely, just use this feeble excuse to dodge their cheapness. elleng Jan 2019 #3
And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they're Fox News watching, Glamrock Jan 2019 #4
A strong limb, able to support your contention. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34
Hahahaha! Glamrock Jan 2019 #44
I'll go out on a limb, too volstork Jan 2019 #13
Limb, too Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #18
get yer 'Murican idioms right here: lambchopp59 Jan 2019 #21
I would not be surprised if you're right. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #28
I, too, will go out on a limb and guess... chwaliszewski Jan 2019 #30
'New Jersey diners' forget from whence THEY, their father, elleng Jan 2019 #2
"...sprung up from mushrooms in the Pine Barrens." ! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2019 #11
I am so stealing that. Glamrock Jan 2019 #45
I love this! a la izquierda Jan 2019 #48
Assholes. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #5
Yep gunsmoker Jan 2019 #6
Welcome to DU gunsmoker! smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #7
That's tRUMP, miserable, self loathing SOB who's taking SammyWinstonJack Jan 2019 #53
Hope that restaurant bans those pieces of shit for life. Initech Jan 2019 #8
Ah yes, the American Diner patron. Just like those interviewed on State TV JDC Jan 2019 #9
"The waitress, who was born in the United States" IronLionZion Jan 2019 #10
What is it with people who think being bi-lingual is a character flaw ? Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #12
Each language sees the world differently. An example using English and German--- bobbieinok Jan 2019 #32
I'm learning German. I love it. a la izquierda Jan 2019 #49
Baumwolle--cotton. Literally Baum--tree and Wolle--wool. So coiton is tree wool bobbieinok Jan 2019 #63
Some kids' rhymes bobbieinok Jan 2019 #65
Another bobbieinok Jan 2019 #66
And a rhyme that helps with prepositions. Also shows closeness between German and English bobbieinok Jan 2019 #67
IF that couple ever do go back there, they should really try the pie... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2019 #14
I saw this movie again today MustLoveBeagles Jan 2019 #17
Exactly. Love it. iluvtennis Jan 2019 #27
A) What movie is that? Glamrock Jan 2019 #46
The movie is "The Help" Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #55
Movie is The Help Blazesweetie Jan 2019 #56
Ooooooooooohhhhh! Glamrock Jan 2019 #61
Mr Orosco, may you and your Under the Moon Cafe be blessed with continued success! I, for one, will DontBooVote Jan 2019 #15
And 'Christian' frauds who leave phony tips. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #16
Barf! chwaliszewski Jan 2019 #31
This is the worst. I've had friends that got these kinds of tips. Very digusting and pathetic. NT SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #33
those are perfect for church collection plates. 912gdm Jan 2019 #37
OUCH! Good one. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #39
Best yet! allgood33 Jan 2019 #51
Oh puke. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2019 #54
People such as those are benld74 Jan 2019 #19
It's getting worse ecstatic Jan 2019 #20
What sad sacks of shit to do that. The only time you don't tip is if the service is truly horrible cstanleytech Jan 2019 #22
If I were a waiter in New Jersey, I guess I'd starve to death DFW Jan 2019 #23
Why? cwydro Jan 2019 #38
One out of nine DFW Jan 2019 #42
You Glamrock Jan 2019 #47
Shhhh! DFW Jan 2019 #50
The great thing about living in a free country littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #24
Did they have their stupid red hats on? n/t hibbing Jan 2019 #25
Cretins. iluvtennis Jan 2019 #26
Oh, dear lord. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #29
the problem is when the schools teach other languages crazycatlady Jan 2019 #36
Actually, a lot of schools in this country don't start PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #41
Totally. Also you should publish that libretto. a la izquierda Jan 2019 #52
Alas, we never actually had an organized PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #62
They'll have to live as themselves for the rest of their lives donkeypoofed Jan 2019 #35
I am going to say iy.... whistler162 Jan 2019 #40
IDK. Most of these turn out to be fake Recursion Jan 2019 #43
+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #57
GoFundMe effect n/t Blues Heron Jan 2019 #60
'Under The Same Moon' a very good movie about migrants: panader0 Jan 2019 #58
Yes, everybody who speaks a foreign language is an immigrant. book_worm Jan 2019 #59
I say FUCK those New Jersey diners. spanone Jan 2019 #64

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
4. And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess they're Fox News watching,
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:09 PM
Jan 2019

Limbaugh listening assholes.

No snark brother, you may be right, but I bet I'm "righter."

volstork

(5,403 posts)
13. I'll go out on a limb, too
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jan 2019

and guess they only speak one language: 'Murican

How any monolingual person can criticize those who are multilingual is beyond me. What hateful people.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
21. get yer 'Murican idioms right here:
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:50 AM
Jan 2019

"They were prolly mad at her talkin' that Mexican talk"
That's roughly verbatim from the same ilk that will tell you:
"Now, there ain't nobody gonna do nothin' no how"

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
30. I, too, will go out on a limb and guess...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 01:37 AM
Jan 2019

that couple thinks Obama was not only a Muslim but also born in Kenya.

elleng

(131,163 posts)
2. 'New Jersey diners' forget from whence THEY, their father,
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jan 2019

their mother, and their father and their mother's family came from; NOT likely they sprung up from mushrooms in the Pine Barrens.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
45. I am so stealing that.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:43 AM
Jan 2019

Next time someone tells me some xenophobic bullshit...
"I'm sure you're ancestors sprung up from mushrooms in the pine barrens.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Assholes.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jan 2019

What on earth is wrong with these people? I can't imagine that people who are filled with so much hate are very happy in their own lives.

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
10. "The waitress, who was born in the United States"
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jan 2019

This is what even many liberals don't get. It's about race.

Saying we're all immigrants is like saying all lives matter. It disproportionately impacts non-whites and people who may speak a non-European language. White immigrants from Europe are often still considered American while born in USA brown US citizens are considered immigrant job stealers.

I was born in Brooklyn, NY, USA but have several well-intentioned white liberal Dem friends who would swear to God that I was born in some other country if you asked them. It's infuriating.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
12. What is it with people who think being bi-lingual is a character flaw ?
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jan 2019

Too stupid to appreciate that someone else got an education ? Too ignorant to learn ? Too arrogant to realize that speaking another language (or two) builds bridges ?

I don't get it. I'm tri-lingual and I'm trying right now to learn the language of my Dad's family: Welsh - one touch nut to crack, believe me. For those DUers who watched SNL's air traffic control skit last Saturday - he wasn't actually speaking Welsh, but he had some of the phonetics down. Any time you learn another language, you start thinking on a whole different level as no language is an exact match in translation for another. So, it broadens your perspective and opens your mind to new ways to see the world.

How is that a bad thing ?

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
32. Each language sees the world differently. An example using English and German---
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:51 AM
Jan 2019

English---light-bulb

German---Gluehbirne (literal translation into English 'glowing pear')

So English 'sees' an object similar to, say, a tulip bulb with light

And German 'sees' an object similar to a pear that glows

On a deeply subconscious level, speakers of each language have a web of connections for that word. The web for the English word is not the same as the web for the German word.

So it can be argued that each web of connections presents the language's speakers with different subconscious pictures of the world.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
63. Baumwolle--cotton. Literally Baum--tree and Wolle--wool. So coiton is tree wool
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jan 2019

And Fingerhut--hat for finger, ie, thimble.

And Eltern, literally ones who are older. English translation is parents.

This has an interesting consequence. In churches with 'elders', German can't use Eltern because that word means parents. So German uses die Eltesten, literally the oldest ones.

German krank is English sick. Then Krankenhaus, literally sick house, is hospital. Krankenwagen, literally sick car, is ambulance. Krankenschwester, literally sick sister, is nurse. (I was reminded of English mysteries, where the nurse is addressed as sister.)

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
65. Some kids' rhymes
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jan 2019

Eins, zwei, Polizei--
Drei, vier, Wein und Bier--
Fuenf, sechs, alte Hex'--
Sieben, acht, Gute Nacht--
Neun, zehn, schlafen geh'n!

Eins, zwei, drei--
Die Henne legt ein Ei--
Die Henne legt ein Weisses Ei--
Eins, zwei, drei!


bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
67. And a rhyme that helps with prepositions. Also shows closeness between German and English
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jan 2019

Mein Vater hat ein Haus.
An dem Haus ist ein Garten.
In dem Garten ist ein Baum.
Auf dem Baum ist ein Nest.
In dem Nest ist ein Ei.
Auf dem Ei ist ein Hase.
Er beisst dir in die Nase!!

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
46. A) What movie is that?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:46 AM
Jan 2019

B) Tsup with the pie?

Heartstrings posted something similiar the other day. Over my head.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
15. Mr Orosco, may you and your Under the Moon Cafe be blessed with continued success! I, for one, will
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jan 2019

make it a point to contribute my small part the next time I'm in New Jersey.

ecstatic

(32,734 posts)
20. It's getting worse
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:31 AM
Jan 2019

The jussie smollett attack has been bothering me all day. Between the violent hate crimes (terrorism) and over the top, rude racism, I'm starting to feel like I'm not safe in this country.

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
22. What sad sacks of shit to do that. The only time you don't tip is if the service is truly horrible
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:53 AM
Jan 2019

but otherwise if the service is good and the foods decent and still hot then you tip appropriately.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
23. If I were a waiter in New Jersey, I guess I'd starve to death
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:58 AM
Jan 2019

I speak nine languages, one of which is Spanish.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
42. One out of nine
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jan 2019

A lot of NJ is ethnically diverse. If I started speaking Italian with some Italians, for example, do you think these Trumpanzees would know the difference between Italian and Spanish? If some Swedes or Dutch people walked in, do you think they would recognize those languages for what they were, and not assume they were Arabic or Farsi?

littlemissmartypants

(22,832 posts)
24. The great thing about living in a free country
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 01:06 AM
Jan 2019

You're free to be rude, cheap assh*les for all the world to see. If the restaurant were mine I'd be tempted to charge them a special tax called the cheap assh*le tax, every time they came back for pie.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
29. Oh, dear lord.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 01:31 AM
Jan 2019

I've never waited tables. Never wanted to. The longest job I ever had was as an airline ticket agent at Washington National Airport (DCA) in Washington, DC. I learned how awful people can be.

Here's the foreign language kicker: I had a co-worker (and to this very day he is my best friend in the whole world) who'd been in the Peace Corps in Malaysia. Shortly after we started working together I found out he spoke French. Yes! My best and preferred foreign language! We quickly started chatting together in French, and it was genuinely hilarious, if slightly discouraging that our co-workers often concluded we were talking about them. Really? Most of the time we were talking absolute nonsense to each other, including a several years' worth of working on the libretto of a fake opera we called "Le Petit Gros Lapin de Birmanie" which translated as "The Little Fat Easter Bunny of Burma", a totally nonsensical thing. We got years of mutual hilarity out of our co-workers misplaced paranoia.

I happen to live in Santa Fe, NM, which means I'm surrounded by Spanish speakers. For a while I worked at the local hospital doing out patient registration, meaning if you needed some kind of test at the hospital you'd fill out paperwork with me or one of my co-workers before going on your merry way. Anyway, while my Spanish was limited, more than half of my co-workers were fluent, and I sincerely appreciated the exposure and the opportunity to increase my own Spanish skills.

Too many Americans are mono lingual. The same friend I referenced above is multi-lingual: Italian because of Italian immigrant ancestors, German and French as languages learned in high school, Bahasa Malay because of time in the Peace Corps. He visited me not too long ago, and literally, every time I turned around he was speaking to someone else in yet another language.

I LOVE being able to speak to someone else in another language. About a year ago I was somewhere (the details aren't important) and turned to ask a man a question, and he said, "I'm sorry, I'm not American, I don't understand," and I immediately recognized his accent as French and immediately switched to French. He was grateful and astonished, as so few Americans know other languages.

This is probably the largest failing of our schools in this country, that they don't teach other languages and they don't convey the importance of being able to speak other languages.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
36. the problem is when the schools teach other languages
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jan 2019

They typically start in 7th grade (12-13).

I think more kids would pick up on them if they started much younger.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
41. Actually, a lot of schools in this country don't start
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

foreign languages until high school.

Far too late. We should be starting in grade school.

It doesn't help that the very vast majority of Americans live a very long way from another country where the citizens speak another language, and most Americans don't travel that much anyway.

Europeans, to be fair, can't travel more than fifty or so miles in any direction (I only exaggerate a little here) before crossing a border and meeting people speaking another language. Plus, many wars over the centuries have forced them to learn other languages. So they also get lots of opportunity to practice the languages they learn. Not so much Americans.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
52. Totally. Also you should publish that libretto.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:17 AM
Jan 2019

I am spurns in Spanish, conversant in a French, and am leaning German and Dutch. It’s amazing that people assume you’re talking about them because you’re bilingual. I get it a lot. Folks like that mustn’t go out much.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
62. Alas, we never actually had an organized
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jan 2019

or sensible libretto. It made far less sense than any truly bad and poorly written opera out there. But we had fun. I recall that occasionally one of us would present an idea for a scene, and perhaps describe a song.

We had a co-worker, Frank, whose nickname was "The Kraut". I knew him for several years before I learned where the nickname came from. He was born in Germany and when he was sixteen his mother married an American soldier and moved to the States. Frank learned English as well as anyone born here. Zero accent, and he didn't often let on that he knew German. Except every so often when he'd get a German speaking passenger, and then he'd let them natter on to each other in German, and only at the very end let on he'd understood every word.

He had a friend, a man named Fritz, who also worked at the airport, who'd likewise come to this country at the exact same age. Fritz never lost his German accent (and believe me, it was thick) and Frank thought that was ridiculous.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
35. They'll have to live as themselves for the rest of their lives
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 08:40 PM
Jan 2019

And that's surely gotta suck large as they are clearly hateful.miserable people, having miserable and hateful thoughts all the time. Those are people who will never be happy. And what happens to people who want to poop all over other people? Bad things and bad karma. I cant imagine living that miserable way.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
59. Yes, everybody who speaks a foreign language is an immigrant.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jan 2019

The stupid of Trump supporters knows no bounds.

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