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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:36 PM Jan 2019

OK, that's it for Schultz.

Until yesterday I had no idea who this Schultz guy was. Today I saw on the CNN print out (what do they call that stuff that isn't the "crawl" cuz it does't move), that he said Elizabeth Warren's idea of a tax on the very wealthy was "ridiculous" and she knows it will never pass. Sounded like man-splaining to me. Made me furious. Why wouldn't it pass? It's not complicated, like, maybe, Medicare for all. It's easy. I completely agree with her response, he's in it to keep the system rigged for himself and his buddies.

He so quickly went from "who's he?" in my mind to "No way!!!!!"

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OK, that's it for Schultz. (Original Post) LAS14 Jan 2019 OP
A billionaire defending his billions (nt) JaneQPublic Jan 2019 #1
Not sure if that qualifies as "man-splaining" but... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #2
Without question. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #29
My moment was when he uttered the Repuke austerity bullshit Doremus Jan 2019 #3
That did it for me, too wryter2000 Jan 2019 #4
One of his main points is attacking entitlements. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #21
To answer the other aside question genxlib Jan 2019 #5
Good point! Now that I think about the number of times it's Fox News playing... LAS14 Jan 2019 #6
"News" should be in quotes The Mouth Jan 2019 #14
You mean "faux" news ? Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #22
that, too. The Mouth Jan 2019 #31
Thank you. trof Jan 2019 #7
Subliminal messaging right out in the open Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #12
You have to think / hope Soph0571 Jan 2019 #8
He is not a good candidate... Period world wide wally Jan 2019 #9
Who's his pick for VP? Alan Greenspan? NBachers Jan 2019 #10
Agreed, and it is part of their BS 'sell'. The reThugs use scare tactics because they are paid to. c-rational Jan 2019 #11
Yeah ouija Jan 2019 #13
show your vote now isitreal Jan 2019 #15
Schultz said EW hit him up for a campaign contribution. He said "no". oasis Jan 2019 #16
Given the Repugnants have the majority in the Senate the truth is that it probably would not even cstanleytech Jan 2019 #17
Yep, I heard that too onlyadream Jan 2019 #18
Wealthy Americans... SergeStorms Jan 2019 #19
"The lower third" n/t librechik Jan 2019 #20
Like some woman on Tom Harmann's program today asked if this is supposed to be the wealthiest Doitnow Jan 2019 #23
It's not man-splaining. musicblind Jan 2019 #24
I wrote him off the minute he said LibDemAlways Jan 2019 #25
Hmm... which one was the Harvard professor? dawg day Jan 2019 #26
If someone organizes a national 1 day boycott of Starbucks, count me in! oasis Jan 2019 #27
Ya. I was open minded, but he is very much against Bernie ideas. Joe941 Jan 2019 #28
Bernie is not a Democrat. nt cwydro Jan 2019 #30

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
2. Not sure if that qualifies as "man-splaining" but...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jan 2019

I don't and I most probably won't vote for any billionaire businessmen for elected office.

Businessmen make shitty presidents. History bears that out. Most of the worst presidents were businessmen first.

Billionaires will do what they do, which is defend their privelege and try to expand it.

Frankly, I think we need both suggestions, OAC's high marginal tax rate and Warren's wealth tax.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
3. My moment was when he uttered the Repuke austerity bullshit
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jan 2019

That's all I need to hear to know he's a fucking oligarch.

genxlib

(5,542 posts)
5. To answer the other aside question
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jan 2019

They call the bottom of the screen text a "chyron"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chyron

It is a silly obscure name for one of the most damaging things in politics. I personally believe that the chyrons are more influential on Fox news than the verbal discussions. Loyalists watch and listen but millions of uninitiated see these chyrons in average coffee shops, waiting rooms, etc. It is this surreptitious exposure to non-news consumers that I think is really dangerous.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
6. Good point! Now that I think about the number of times it's Fox News playing...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 06:48 PM
Jan 2019

...silently in such places. Yes, you've scared me. But thanks for the info.

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
11. Agreed, and it is part of their BS 'sell'. The reThugs use scare tactics because they are paid to.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jan 2019

We had a similar tax code in the 50's and 60's. Inequality has resulted in the move to more nationalism and a more unjust society. There are a lot more people in the 0-90% group and this is why they want voter turnout limited. Let the people speak.

isitreal

(26 posts)
15. show your vote now
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

This man knows money and the power of it. He is forgetting that Business and politics should not mix. Now is the time to give him an education and stop spending money at Starbucks. As soon as he sees good impact to his bottom line he will be reconsidering if this is a wise move for him.

Vote now stop giving starbucks your money.

oasis

(49,409 posts)
16. Schultz said EW hit him up for a campaign contribution. He said "no".
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jan 2019

Some kinda Dem, that guy. Screw all billionaires with over inflated egos.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
17. Given the Repugnants have the majority in the Senate the truth is that it probably would not even
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

make it to the floor for a vote.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. Wealthy Americans...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:52 PM
Jan 2019

usually wealthy white men, have to stop thinking that the office of president is a good place to "start" their political career. That's insane. That's like a writer of children's books thinking they're qualified to run the largest publishing company on the planet.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
23. Like some woman on Tom Harmann's program today asked if this is supposed to be the wealthiest
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:11 AM
Jan 2019

nation in the world, why is it we can't afford to have medical care for everyone if every other industrial country can afford to do exactly that?

Don't you just love the way these billionaires just love to try to influence decisions even before ordinary people get the chance to get ideas aired? Like ---oh, you people are too stupid to even think about progressive ideas. Huge proportions of Americans want progressive solutions, polls show. Progressives are in the MAJORITY in wanting these new solutions, therefore progressives make up the CENTER. Ignore the "far left" label. Some would like to make them dirty words, like they've made the word, "liberal."

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
24. It's not man-splaining.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:06 AM
Jan 2019

It's just his opinion.

I will not vote for the guy, because he's trying to be a spoiler. I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren over him any day. If he wants to run, he should jump in the primary rather than run as a self-funded independent.

You ask why wouldn't Medicare For All pass? We can't pass legislation keeping guns out of the hands of people on no-fly lists. 80 some percent of Americans agree on that, but we can't pass it because Republicans won't let us. The ACA was based on a heritage foundation plan and they still wouldn't give us a single vote.

It won't pass in the near future because the other party will not give us any support and we are very unlikely to have a supermajority in the near future.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't propose it, that doesn't mean we shouldn't tout its virtues, and that doesn't mean we shouldn't push for it as a party. All that means is we should be realistic about it actually happening. Republicans will NOT vote on anything Democrats support no matter how popular it is with the general public. We will have to wait until we have another supermajority to pass Medicare For All. Then we will have to spend years defending it in court - both the court of opinion and the court of appeals - just like we did the ACA.

None of that means Elizabeth Warren shouldn't advocate for it, that just means it's an uphill battle.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
25. I wrote him off the minute he said
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:14 AM
Jan 2019

getting insurance out of healthcare was "unAmerican." He's an entitled ass.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
26. Hmm... which one was the Harvard professor?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:16 AM
Jan 2019

Not the coffee guy.

And maybe he doesn't realize that several countries-- Canada, the UK, France-- have single-payer, where you just show your NHS card and get the services-- you know, pretty much like Medicare for all. And they spend far, far less on health care than we do.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
28. Ya. I was open minded, but he is very much against Bernie ideas.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:23 AM
Jan 2019

I'll be supporting Bernie if he runs.

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