Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
heckler or patriot at the Howard Schultz event? (Original Post) rogue emissary Jan 2019 OP
Patriot Pachamama Jan 2019 #1
Patriot and an honest man RHMerriman Jan 2019 #4
Apparently you don't understand how the draft worked. woofless Jan 2019 #9
Understand it well... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #12
53's were in the lottery. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #10
And either you stand up and serve, or you stand up and protest... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #14
Bone spurs demosincebirth Jan 2019 #5
Got to agree with patriot. joshdawg Jan 2019 #8
NO MORE billionaires. roamer65 Jan 2019 #2
Definitely.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2019 #3
Fuck Schultz and I wrote this on a free wifi at Starbucks so thank you Schultz. TeamPooka Jan 2019 #6
And no more non-lawyers, for that matter. ancianita Jan 2019 #7
Here's hoping there's one at every whistle stop...just like this guy. lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #11
Hero. He set the tone and I'm amused and thrilled by all the press ecstatic Jan 2019 #13
Both Generic Brad Jan 2019 #15

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
4. Patriot and an honest man
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:36 AM
Jan 2019

Patriot and an honest man.

Next one should throw "draft dodger" at Mr. Schultz and see how he reacts.

He's 65 and was born July 19, 1953; I wonder who the poor bastard who got to go to Vietnam in his place was?

Oh wait, here's one:

[link:http://thewall-usa.com/info.asp?recid=49858|]

CHARLES LEROY STEWART JR

SP4 - E4 - Army - Regular
1st AVN BDE

His tour began on Mar 14, 1972
Casualty was on Oct 31, 1972
In DINH TUONG, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, HELICOPTER - NONCREW
AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND
Body was recovered

Panel 01W - Line 87

[link:http://www.vvmf.org/Wall-of-Faces/49848/CHARLES-L-STEWART-JR|]

[link:http://www.ichiban1.org/pdf/Memorial/Stewart.pdf|]


woofless

(2,670 posts)
9. Apparently you don't understand how the draft worked.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:17 AM
Jan 2019

Just because one was of age to be eligible to be drafted, did not mean that one would be drafted. To assume that another that had been drafted, and subsequently lost his life, had given his life in exchange of the one who had not been drafted is ridiculous. As a Viet Nam Era veteran myself, I understand why one would avoid this war. I enlisted in the Air Force specifically because I didn't want to be drafted into the Army. I have never regretted that decision. Find a different reason to oppose Schultz. There surely are many.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
12. Understand it well...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:21 AM
Jan 2019

Actually, I understand it well...

I was one of the many who came along after 1975 and volunteered for the service, in order to clean up the messes the way the draft was administered in the late 1960s and early 1970s had left behind in the US armed forces.

The point is, however, I admire those who took a stand against the war, and suffered the consequences; and I admire those who served when their country called; but what I can not admire are those who simply stood by and let their fellow citizens bear the burden.

Draft dodgers and fortunate sons were and are the dregs of their generation. Schultz is one of them. So's Trump. Fuck 'em all.

Both of them put together, and all the rest of their cowardly chickenhawk brethren put together aren't worth Charles Stewart - or, for that matter, Alice Herz, Norman Morrison, or those murdered at Kent State and Jackson State.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
14. And either you stand up and serve, or you stand up and protest...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:34 AM
Jan 2019

And either you stand up and serve, or you stand up and protest...

And Schultz has tried to cover up his cowardice:

[link:https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Starbuckss-Schultz-Opens-New/228699|]

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
13. Hero. He set the tone and I'm amused and thrilled by all the press
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:25 AM
Jan 2019

it received. Perfectly worded, easily remembered. He destroyed Schulz's campaign before it started. Lol

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»heckler or patriot at the...