Very interesting read

[melm00se]

and a warning to all to not immediately believe viral videos under the assumption that they "show the truth".

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/media-must-learn-covington-catholic-story/581035/

[Delphinus]

1. I generally

appreciate the Atlantic but in this case I found the following article a lot more believable:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-own-eyes-1831931203?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=theconcourse_facebook&utm_campaign=top&fbclid=IwAR1-iAK8G9hZxF1SGHMbdEwAR_CnwfyCHshfNKtw4lcm4qhmoBItGaRXzvg

Don't doubt what you saw with your own eyes.

[Blue_true]

7. The writer of the Atlantic article bent over backward to make the CovCath kids look

like saints that had walked into a barfight. In fact, they mocked Mr. Phillips and made zero attempt to engage in dialog with him. I am surprised that someone would put an apologist explanation for the behavior of the kids on DU.

Thanks for posting a methodical examination of all the video that was taken around that incident.

[sharedvalues]

2. The author, Caitlin Flanagan is a rightwing hack and liar.

Please do not post Caitlin Flanagan here ever.

She is a bad faith liar who is amplified by the right.
Also, this article she wrote is crap and wrong. See the link posted above.

I suggest you delete this thread. We don’t need rightwing talking points here; good faith discussion is fine, but this is not that.

[femmedem]

4. She's not progressive but IMO neither is she a rightwing hack. She opposed Kavanaugh, for example

Here's her article opposing Kavanaugh: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/me-too/570520/

And she's clearly not a fan of Trump; she calls this "an increasingly dangerous presidency": https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/what-is-ivanka-trumps-role-in-the-white-house/580045/

She's also written columns I take issue with, but I don't think she can be boxed into a clearly-defined ideology.

[sharedvalues]

5. Ok. You're right. But here's a good take on her (old)

http://www.msmagazine.com/winter2004/backtothekitchen.asp

[femmedem]

6. Yes, that is definitely problematic.

Thanks for the link.

[tymorial]

3. Film and video allow the viewer to draw conclusions based upon the images they observe

Raw video is often presented as "the truth" but that is a false premise. Accepting raw video as truth ignores the reality that we as viewers make that determination, not the video itself. We assign meanings to the events portrayed based upon our own values and understanding of the scenario played out. That doesn't even begin to address confirmation bias which influences how we evaluate "truth." Further, you shoot the same scene from a different angle, change the lighting even slightly, change the sound... context changes. There is a reason why movies and television shows have a director, it is their job to frame the narrative... to get the viewer to understand what is attempting to be portrayed. Raw video leaves all of that up to interpretation and that doesn't mean... its "what really happened"

All of the posts and articles written by people who "know what they saw" are all just affirming their own confirmation bias. I realize this post will garner little to no warm reaction. The only truth I accept over this incident is the reaction has been insane. Death threats against a teenager? (i'm about to ignore grammer.....)

This country has gone to shit and it ain't just the right wing nut jobs who are fucking it up.

Oh and I'll add that lest anyone think I am somehow giving a pass on racism or bigotry, that kid could be a little hitler. His parents could be raising him to be another David Duke. If he is then I hope he certainly grows the fuck up and finds out some grace and love rather than hate and bile. Or did we decide as a people to no longer allow redemption? IF that's the case then we should never ever pretend that the Senator Byrd, President Johnson and the numerous other democrats of the past who had done great things hadn't committed horrible acts.