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pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:27 PM Jan 2019

The worst part of the whole story is that Biden wouldn't even DISCUSS endorsing the Democrat

Last edited Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:00 AM - Edit history (4)

who was opposing Upton, the Republican he had praised in the speech a GOP-org had paid him $200K to give. (This was a Republican who had voted for a cancer research bill that Biden supported -- but who led an effort to repeal the ACA.)

The Republican was able to make advertisements out of Biden's praise, while the Democrat couldn't even get Biden to talk to him.

What I see here is the same "fatal flaw" that caused him to fail Anita Hill: it is very important to him that he be seen as a guy who can get along with the Republicans. Because he had made a promise to the Republicans on the committee to end the hearing on a certain date, he refused to call 3 key witnesses who would have corroborated Hill's testimony about Clarence Thomas.

He still values reaching across the aisle as much and possibly even more than he values standing up for Democrats and their principles.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/joe-biden-defends-himself-for-praising-republican-bless-me-father-for-i-have-sinned/

“Look, I get in trouble, I read in the New York Times today that I, one of my problems is, if I were to run for president, I like Republicans,” Biden said, then crossed himself while joking “Okay, well, bless me Father, for I have sinned.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html

But Mr. Biden was not there to denounce Mr. Upton. Instead, he was collecting $200,000 from the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan to address a Republican-leaning audience, according to a speaking contract obtained by The New York Times and interviews with organizers. The group, a business-minded civic organization, is supported in part by an Upton family foundation.

SNIP

The greatest impact of Mr. Biden’s speech, however, was outside the lecture hall. His remarks about Mr. Upton ricocheted through Michigan’s Sixth Congressional District. Mr. Upton alluded to Mr. Biden’s praise in a debate with Mr. Longjohn the next day, and his campaign sent out a mailer stressing Mr. Upton’s bipartisan streak, including Mr. Biden’s description of him as “the reason we’re going to beat cancer.”

A business-backed Republican group, Defending Main Street, ran digital ads on Facebook showing a grinning Mr. Biden and the crucial quote — “Fred Upton is one of the finest guys I’ve ever worked with” — above a mock version of the former vice president’s signature.

Mr. Lester, the local Democratic chairman, said he strove to contain the damage. In an email to Mr. Biden’s staff, Mr. Lester implored the former vice president to back Mr. Longjohn: “Surely VP Biden did not intend to endorse Mr. Upton and slight the local Democratic candidate here,” he wrote.

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“There was nothing but silence,” Mr. Longjohn said. “We had just requested a phone call and there was no response.”

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The worst part of the whole story is that Biden wouldn't even DISCUSS endorsing the Democrat (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2019 OP
Can't see Elizabeth doing that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #1
Or Sherrod Brown or Kamala Harris or Corey Booker. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #2
This revelation takes him out of the running. brush Jan 2019 #3
Takes him out of the running for you perhaps, but I think he was never in the running with you in UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #6
I wasn't against him. Boosting a repug for money is a bridge too far. brush Jan 2019 #7
Nostalgia for Tip O'Neill is not a strategy loyalsister Jan 2019 #8
ITS TOO EARLY! pansypoo53219 Jan 2019 #4
WTF dalton99a Jan 2019 #5

brush

(53,899 posts)
3. This revelation takes him out of the running.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jan 2019

Sorry, Joe. This gaffe (for money) is too much to overlook like all the others.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Takes him out of the running for you perhaps, but I think he was never in the running with you in
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jan 2019

the first place. Not sure who is gaffe free...but you be sure to let me know when you find them.

brush

(53,899 posts)
7. I wasn't against him. Boosting a repug for money is a bridge too far.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:51 PM
Jan 2019

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Especially when we have so many other choices.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. Nostalgia for Tip O'Neill is not a strategy
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 01:38 AM
Jan 2019

Policy makers are not going to get acceptable compromises unless they elect Democrats or people who are going to be unabashed liberal republicans.
The younger electeds seem to be ready to redefine the debate and strategy to suit a very different culture and set circumstances. There is no historical reference for guidance. And we know that Joe's friendships did not help when he was VP.

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