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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:16 AM Jan 2019

What Republicans Are Saying: "Pampered Federal Workers Don't Deserve Anyone's Pity"

The media tries to play up either a false equivalency between Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump or they highlight "moderate" Republicans expressing their "concern" about the plight of government workers even though they continue to support Trump's shutdown.

However, in an editorial that echoes reports of "Senior Trump Official" who was cheering on the shutdown, the Investor's Business Daily, a widely published business publication, posted an Editorial arguing that "Pampered Federal Workers Don't Deserve Anyone's Pity." It is a disgusting read that illustrates what is really going on in the minds of Republicans. They go through the motions of being concerned about Federal Workers, but in the end this is hostage taking with Republicans gleefully ready to start shooting hostages.

Will their be any blow back? Will the Investor's Business Daily even have to apologize? The answer is no as the mainstream media continues to push a false equivalency between Republicans and Democrats, which serves to prolong the shutdown and encourage shutdowns in the future, particularly since Republicans seem to enjoy inflicting pain on workers.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/federal-workers-government-shutdown/

The worst thing about the government shutdown isn't the — minimal — harm it's causing. It's all the misplaced hand-wringing about federal workers, most of whom are overpaid and underworked, and all whom will get their back pay once government reopens.

Keep in mind that the 800,000 federal workers affected by the shutdown have so far missed a grand total of one paycheck, which would have arrived five days ago.

There's no doubt that this is challenging for many workers, particularly those who don't budget their money well. But Congress has already guaranteed they will be made whole once the shutdown ends. This is an inconvenience, not a hardship.

In the meantime, let's remember who we are talking about here. While there are certainly plenty of hardworking, dedicated federal workers, they are, for the most part, incredibly pampered. They get better pay and more generous benefits than private sector workers doing the same things. They work fewer hours. And they have far greater job security.
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What Republicans Are Saying: "Pampered Federal Workers Don't Deserve Anyone's Pity" (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2019 OP
The "Let them eat cake" line will not play well this time.. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #1
Hundreds of Thousands of Federal Workers Are Political Props... TomCADem Jan 2019 #3
They will reap a furious whirlwind. slumcamper Jan 2019 #4
Envious, anti-government ideologues who lack empathy... slumcamper Jan 2019 #2
'Senior Trump Official' On Shutdown: 'We Do Not Want Most Employees To Return" TomCADem Jan 2019 #10
The libertarian tell is when government services are measured by corporate think. Ironic fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #5
I have seen a little bit of that shadenfreude even here violetpastille Jan 2019 #6
His "base" among this group probably agrees. jaysunb Jan 2019 #7
In Trump country, Republicans cheer on shutdown: The 'government is our biggest enemy' TomCADem Jan 2019 #9
We are now into the 2020 Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #8
First they came for the government workers.....I think you know how the rest goes. TeamPooka Jan 2019 #11
Kudlow: Federal workers impacted by shutdown are 'volunteering' in part due to 'allegiance' to Trump TomCADem Jan 2019 #14
How charming Recursion Jan 2019 #12
This hypocritical statement from corporate-friendly media is.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #13
Wilbur Ross doesn't 'quite understand' why furloughed workers are going to homeless shelters TomCADem Jan 2019 #15
no name on who wrote the article, he/she had better hope their anonymity not be discovered Demonaut Jan 2019 #16
It Is An Editorial Which is Worse TomCADem Jan 2019 #17
Maybe Wilbur had a hand in writing that IBD editorial. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #18
This is the schtick that Republicans have been pushing for years peggysue2 Jan 2019 #19

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
1. The "Let them eat cake" line will not play well this time..
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:19 AM
Jan 2019

Heartless and soulless Republicans. Their day of reckoning is coming.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
3. Hundreds of Thousands of Federal Workers Are Political Props...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jan 2019

...they are being forced to work for free in order to allow Republicans to prove that they are irrelevant. Republicans will say, "look there is a shutdown, and it has no impact, so federal workers are useless!" Yet, Republicans insist that federal workers work despite the shutdown in order to maintain the facade that the shutdown has no impact. Thus, federal employees are forced to subsidize the political messaging of Trump and his Republican supporters and enablers.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
2. Envious, anti-government ideologues who lack empathy...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jan 2019

Just another character trait of the "Deplorables for Trump" base.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
10. 'Senior Trump Official' On Shutdown: 'We Do Not Want Most Employees To Return"
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:16 AM
Jan 2019

It is not just in RW media. The Trump administration has people internally cheering on a long shutdown. If it was not a wall, it would be something else.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/senior-trump-official-anonymous-daily-caller-op-ed-shutdown-federal-workers

An unnamed “senior official in the Trump administration” wrote in an anonymous Daily Caller op-ed Monday that the record-breaking 24-day partial government shutdown “is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.”

While it’s unclear how “senior” this administration official is — many senior Trump officials are still being paid, while the author claims to be “one of the senior officials working without a paycheck” — the op-ed could offer a window into another goal of this shutdown, in addition to using federal workers’ paychecks as leverage in an attempt to extract border wall funds from Congress: starving the government.

The op-ed’s author wrote that “many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce” and that “we do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them.”

Roughly 800,000 federal employees are currently going without pay, and millions of Americans who rely on the agencies those employees usually run — everything from the Food and Drug Administration to the Department of the Interior to the Department of Homeland Security — are going without services, except for those provided by workers deemed essential to national security or public safety.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
6. I have seen a little bit of that shadenfreude even here
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:33 AM
Jan 2019
There's no doubt that this is challenging for many workers, particularly those who don't budget their money well.


"Budget their money well". What a load of crap.


A TSA agent in NYC makes 17.00 an hour. Seventeen an hour ain't it when you have rent, kids, possibly car loans or student loans, daycare. FOOD.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
7. His "base" among this group probably agrees.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:33 AM
Jan 2019

I 've seen a couple of them on tee vee saying either it's everybody's fault or the Democrats not willing to talk. Anything but Trump and Mitch.
That's some powerful foolaid.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
9. In Trump country, Republicans cheer on shutdown: The 'government is our biggest enemy'
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:14 AM
Jan 2019

I agree. Many in Trump's base see this as an opportunity to stick to government workers. Make them work forever with no pay! That will teach them!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-trump-country-republicans-cheer-on-shutdown-the-government-is-our-biggest-enemy/ar-BBSuOZQ?li=BBnb7Kz

Here in this northern Colorado coal town, those 10 words, and the unplowed parking lot of that Bureau of Land Management facility, are among the few obvious signs that the nation's federal government is partially closed, resulting in nearly 1 million American workers not getting their taxpayer-paid paychecks. Many of Craig's 9,000 residents are just fine with that.

In this low-slung Western town that still celebrates cowboys and cattle rustlers, Christmas and Christ, and where the smokestacks of coal-fired power plants bracket the broad valley, residents wonder aloud: Doesn't the shutdown prove their long-held argument that the federal government is too big, too powerful and too expensive?

"It kind of makes me question what they do on a day-to-day basis," says Paul James, 31, who runs the town's sole medical marijuana dispensary. "If I don't miss them, what were they doing?
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. We are now into the 2020
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:59 AM
Jan 2019

Campaign Season, and what happened today as well as what is happening tonight with Gardner of Colorado jumping the Tea Billy ship. Our campaign messages are going to be brought to all by the fact that 20% of the Nations Populations was and still being crapped on by the Russian/GOP party.

When the House Hearings start,watch for tons of Rethugs suddenly talk retirement.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. Kudlow: Federal workers impacted by shutdown are 'volunteering' in part due to 'allegiance' to Trump
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 01:39 AM
Jan 2019

Well, according to the Trump administration, federal workers are volunteering due to their love for Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/426851-kudlow-federal-workers-impacted-by-shutdown-are-volunteering-in-part

President Trump's top economic advisor on Thursday said federal employees were "volunteering" to work amid the partial government shutdown in part because of their "allegiance to President Trump."

"They honor us and they do it because of their love for their country and the office of the presidency and presumably their allegiance to President Trump," National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow said while speaking to reporters at the White House briefing room. "They’re doing it. Give them some credit. There are a lot of wonderful people in this country."

Talking Points Memo reported that Kudlow made the statement after previously praising federal workers for "working for free" during the shutdown. At least 800,000 federal workers — plus contractors — are either furloughed or working for free.

"They’re volunteering," Kudlow reportedly said. "But they do it because they believe government service is honorable and they believe in Trump and they’re working as hard as ever.”

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. How charming
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:54 AM
Jan 2019

My wife will have a limp her whole life because of an injury she suffered while stationed in Haiti during the earthquake. We've missed weddings, funerals, and births of nieces and nephews because we were stationed overseas. I contracted dengue while we were stationed in India, which will never completely go away.

Investors Business Daily can go fuck themselves.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
13. This hypocritical statement from corporate-friendly media is....
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:54 AM
Jan 2019

far more of an indicator of how far our average American worker's real pay and benefits have fallen, not how well Federal workers are thriving.

............

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
15. Wilbur Ross doesn't 'quite understand' why furloughed workers are going to homeless shelters
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 01:42 AM
Jan 2019

Hey, the US Commerce Secretary is saying what's the big deal? Just take out a loan.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/24/business/wilbur-ross-loans-food-assistance-government-shutdown/index.html

Washington (CNN Business)Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross says he doesn't "really quite understand why" federal workers who have missed paychecks due to the partial government shutdown don't just take out loans to cover the gap.

When asked in a CNBC interview on Thursday about reports that federal workers are going to homeless shelters or seeking food assistance, the billionaire investor said: "Well, I know they are and I don't really quite understand why, because as I mentioned before, the obligations that they would undertake, say borrowing from a bank or a credit union, are in effect federally guaranteed, so the 30 days of pay that some people will be out is no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it."

The government has been partially shut down for more than a month, with no apparent end in sight.

A food pantry opened by chef Jose Andres in central Washington has been swamped with workers seeking hot meals, while furloughed employees across the country have been visiting food banks and seeking other assistance.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
17. It Is An Editorial Which is Worse
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:11 AM
Jan 2019

This means that the Investors Business Daily’s Senior Editorial staff signed off on it.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
18. Maybe Wilbur had a hand in writing that IBD editorial.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:05 AM
Jan 2019

That's one of the most extreme, mean-spirited right-wing articles I've read in a long time, with a strong stench of Libertarianism.

In essence what they're saying is that anyone in the USA that has a secure, good-paying job with good benefits needs to be declared redundant because they're not profiting enough from it. Their motive is quite clear: to add a layer of profit to all public service functions, and to allow Wall Street's thumb deeper into the government pie.

The huge hole in their free-market ideology is that most government tasks cannot executed in the competitive market - they've already tried that shit with the prison system and it's a massive failure.

People that write this dogmatic crap need to be taken out behind the woodshed and then forced to work in something like a chicken processing plant or cleaning motel rooms for a year or two.

Sorry, I needed to rant.......

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
19. This is the schtick that Republicans have been pushing for years
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:31 AM
Jan 2019

Federal workers = bad, overpaid, useless. Therefore privatize the world! Just like trickle down economics, the reality is . . . it doesn't work in the real world. Charter schools have had mixed results at best. Private prisons have been an absolute disaster as have the for-profit universities bilking government student loan systems and leaving students in massive debt with shoddy degree programs. One can only imagine the chaos of privatized social security and/or Medicare, the GOP Nirvana.

The only people 'cheering on the Shutdown" are the ideologues hoping to 'drown the government in a bathtub.' They see this as a great opportunity to steer the country into an Ayn Rand paradise and/or institute a Brownback experiment at the National level, even though it failed spectacularly in Kansas.

That's why we need to hold the line, support the people willing to stand up, push back and say No!, not only for the 800,000 Federal workers but for all the contractors--millions of workers--being stiffed and held hostage to a no-nothing Administration and their sycophants who don't care about immigration or the workers or the Wall, who only see as far as their own bottom line.

The Republican Party deserves to die a horrible death. They are unAmerican and inhumane and they're proving that fact every God damn day.

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