Why doesn't the orange one just give in?

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Open the government without his wall. Get his SOTU and then lie about how the democrats are letting "illegals" pour in. That seems to be his shtick. I do realize he hates "losing" though. Loser. Unless it is because he likes the government shutdown... hmmm

[C_U_L8R]

1. Simply, he isn't very smart.

Devious, yes. But not one bit intelligent.

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7. Not at all

Dumb as shit

[tblue37]

2. Hannity, Coulter, and Limbaugh would say mean things about him, and he would, as he

said to Schumer, "look foolish."

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5. Yep

So sad

[Sherman A1]

10. Precisely

and that is the Exact reason.

[at140]

3. Cuz if he gives up the Wall, he loses in 2020 for certain

I think he is convinced of that.

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4. So Coulter says lol

[at140]

9. Coulter lives in his head!

along with Hannity & others.

[Demovictory9]

6. he's waiting for RW media to give him permission to give in

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8. Oh you mean his advisors?

Ha

[Demovictory9]

21. His rulers

[lunatica]

11. He didn't think it would go this far

Because women are just supposed to shut up and look plastic - hint, hint—>Melania and Ivanka

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13. Pretty much

[Rizen]

12. He's an insane narcissist

basically a toddler who wants everything his way. It's not about reason or facts.

[blur256]

14. True

But he LOVES the national stage

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

15. Because his idea of negotiations is that he gets his own way every time.

The bullying has worked extremely well up to now, and he's simply not used to anyone telling him no.

Plus, he's completely indifferent to what the shutdown is doing to thousands of ordinary people.

Maybe everyone who is still working without pay should all call in sick on the same day. And the next day. And the following day.

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16. I can't believe they haven't

Gone on strike yet. I would.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

22. Keep in mind that most federal employees cannot legally strike.

And it would be somewhat difficult to organize them all. Although if even 30% called in sick one particular day it would tend to shut down everything.

I keep on hoping that ALPA, the AirLine Pilots Association, will decide that it's really not safe to fly and will refuse to fly.

Back in the 1970s, when Canadian air traffic controllers in Quebec wanted to be able to speak French to local pilots, American (and possibly others, I don't recall the details) pilots understood that this was A Very Bad Idea and refused to fly into Quebec. It took maybe three days for the controllers to go back to English for All.

This clearly isn't a language issue, but a safety issue. If security checks (as bullshit as they are, and since I'm a former airline ticket agent who started work just over 50 years ago at DCA, well before any sort of security and understand all too well what theater the current security is) aren't being performed as mandated, if the ATC people are being even more over worked than usual, if the pilots decide that it's not safe to fly, we can hope they'll simply refuse to fly. Which might possibly bring this stupid shut down to an end. Although I wouldn't count on it.

[Progressive Law]

17. Because Trump fears being perceived as submissive, especially to a female opponent.

If a face-saving "out" was still available in this shutdown mess, he would use it. But there isn't one. He clearly said he won't sign a blll that lacks 5.7B for a wall. And he's dug in. I wouldn't be surprised if this shutdown lasts for months. It could even be the impetus that forces the GOP to agree to impeachment proceedings.

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18. I feel so sorry for the workers

[Merlot]

19. He doesn't want the gov't to run, he wants to destroy it.

Yes, he likes the shutdown, as do most republicans.

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20. Sadly yes