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Quixote1818

(28,967 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:58 PM Jan 2019

How about the Democrats say Trump can have his 5 billion for the wall for Universal HC?

Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Or a 90% top tax rate? Here is a great one! Campaign finance reform and getting rid of Citizens United! We get something we REALLY want for something he REALLY wants! Then in ten years the wall just crumbles from all the holes cut into it with hacksaws.

We have big time leverage right now so maybe we should take advantage of it for something extremely important to the wellbeing of the country.

Thoughts?

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How about the Democrats say Trump can have his 5 billion for the wall for Universal HC? (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jan 2019 OP
No. No capitulation. Nancy Pelosi said it - the wall is WRONG. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #1
What do people not understand about not giving in to hostage takers? manor321 Jan 2019 #2
I'd do it for a constitutional amendment on citizens United. zaj Jan 2019 #3
Exactly. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #4
Open the government, then we'll deal... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #5
Good point. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #7
Would be a shame to use the savings that universal health care would create aeromanKC Jan 2019 #6
No. Just no. Can't let tRump win this one. Joe941 Jan 2019 #8
No wall. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #9
He'll ignore them because he doesn't care about the wall lunatica Jan 2019 #10
The facts are they would never go for it, and the reason is because it would actually help people still_one Jan 2019 #11
That proposed wall will drain every last resource in this country. liberalmuse Jan 2019 #12
No. No wall. jmowreader Jan 2019 #13
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. What do people not understand about not giving in to hostage takers?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:59 PM
Jan 2019
Speaker Nancy Pelosi: “We cannot have the president, every time he has an objection, to say I’ll shut down the government until you come to my way of thinking…If we hold the employees hostage now, they’re hostage forever.”
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
3. I'd do it for a constitutional amendment on citizens United.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:02 PM
Jan 2019

In a heart beat... Then tear it down a year after.

Wounded Bear

(58,704 posts)
5. Open the government, then we'll deal...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:04 PM
Jan 2019

Trump cannot be trusted. Any promise he makes is shit. He's never had a contract/deal he didn't bust.

aeromanKC

(3,327 posts)
6. Would be a shame to use the savings that universal health care would create
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jan 2019

And throw it down the drain on the wasteful Trump border wall when it could be used for something constructive for the country, like um......... oh I dont know, how about tuition free college or advanced training for all!!??

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. He'll ignore them because he doesn't care about the wall
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jan 2019

He doesn’t care about the federal employees affected by his tantrum. He doesn’t care about tearing children from their parents and throwing them in cages. He doesn’t care about the hurricane victims in Puerto Rico, or women, or the LGBTQ community, or the military in war zones, or vets, or anyone who isn’t rich. He also doesn’t care about his own base other than to use them to puff him up.

If anyone offers him anything he will simply up the ante and immediately demand more before accepting the offer. He’s already done it once. He even accepted the exchange last year but then Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh got mad so he had to back out. They won’t let him accept anything as being enough now. All three of them are narcissists and none of them will back down.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
11. The facts are they would never go for it, and the reason is because it would actually help people
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jan 2019

who need it


liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
12. That proposed wall will drain every last resource in this country.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 PM
Jan 2019

And much of the money will go into Putin's and Trump's pockets. We won't have money for healthcare, infrastructure or to seriously prep for the global impacts of climate change. The wall is a sick ruse, and so many people are falling for it. This entire wall fiasco is proof that a large percentage of our population are incapable of logical reasoning and lack common sense. It's yet another massive transfer of our public treasury into the pockets of a few and will do jack shit to protect our borders.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
13. No. No wall.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 12:47 AM
Jan 2019

There's already a wall on the border everywhere one can be built. What, exactly, spending $5 billion (or, more than likely, $100 billion or far more) on a replacement wall will do is a question Trump needs to answer - AFTER the government has reopened with no wall funding in place, and under oath - before one wooden nickel is allocated for this stupid wall.

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