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Speaker Pelosi cancels WH walk through (Original Post) angrychair Jan 2019 OP
Womp whomp. MontanaMama Jan 2019 #1
+1000 KCDebbie Jan 2019 #11
IKR? Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #92
It is the beginning of a power struggle Perseus Jan 2019 #105
Can't Trump just give the speech on TV by himself if he wants to? Kablooie Jan 2019 #2
He can, but Trump's ego will force Trump to demand access to the House. Progressive Law Jan 2019 #7
He's screwed there. He cannot demand access. bitterross Jan 2019 #79
He has to ask for and pay for air time lunatica Jan 2019 #26
He wants a live audience ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #44
Yup. Without a live audience, his speeches tend to be total flops! nt avebury Jan 2019 #68
Sure - he can even send a written report Retrograde Jan 2019 #47
I'm sure a written report could even be via Twitter if he wanted it. Massacure Jan 2019 #58
... or when it has to be. fierywoman Jan 2019 #71
He can fax over a Post It. sarge43 Jan 2019 #54
I'd like someone to point out, to the strict Constitutionalists, that avebury Jan 2019 #70
In that rat's nest that subs for Moron's mind, sarge43 Jan 2019 #82
trump is horrible on telepromter speeches Gothmog Jan 2019 #61
You know he has always been shunned by polite society malaise Jan 2019 #63
he can give a speech from anywhere, even his toilet seat but the Peoples House is off limits mastermind Jan 2019 #74
This is a New Experience for Trump... dlk Jan 2019 #3
Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2019 #27
Agreed. But Madame Speaker is not just equally powerful. panader0 Jan 2019 #50
Oh Snap. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #65
This!! AllyCat Jan 2019 #67
Beautifully put! fierywoman Jan 2019 #72
Exactly shanti Jan 2019 #77
Indeed ck4829 Jan 2019 #100
lol janterry Jan 2019 #4
She NEEDS to cancel the SOTU.... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #5
She can't 'cancel' it... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #12
She can keep him out of the House! splat Jan 2019 #14
She can cancel the TV aspect and just recieve it in writing bottomofthehill Jan 2019 #19
O.K. then "not let him deliver it in the house" doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #43
Yeah, the Constitution is actually kind of vague about it... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #45
Nothing in the Constitution states paleotn Jan 2019 #46
Define "from time to time" jmowreader Jan 2019 #64
I'd rather them hold it and do an Animal House style walk out. Initech Jan 2019 #51
"...not sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!" HuskyOffset Jan 2019 #93
"Hey take it easy, I'm in pre law." Initech Jan 2019 #95
Funny exchange HuskyOffset Jan 2019 #101
Speaker Pelosi explained about the security concersn, and the fact that she refuses to have niyad Jan 2019 #103
*snort* MissB Jan 2019 #6
Does a Speaker outrank an Emperor? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #8
ROFL! @Asking for an orange baby. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2019 #48
Who shall remain nameless. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #69
Good for her bdamomma Jan 2019 #9
BWAH! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #10
Omg, this is so great! octoberlib Jan 2019 #13
Go Nancy! Squinch Jan 2019 #15
Is this new, or recycled clickbait? n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #16
It's only a few hours old. It's new. manor321 Jan 2019 #21
I know the tweet is new, but what is the source (besides Krass)? n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #22
Annoying how he rarely, if ever, provides a link to confirm his breaking news tweets. greyl Jan 2019 #89
Also, I don't remember a walk through even being scheduled, just a request for one. n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #29
From what I read here on DU the White House scheduled a walk through this afternoon for preparations vsrazdem Jan 2019 #38
It was a request, not a scheduled walk through. demmiblue Jan 2019 #56
Here is some info from this evening BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #59
NOT IN MY HOUSE! jcgoldie Jan 2019 #17
HA HA HA HA HA! OH BABY! manor321 Jan 2019 #18
K&R for the Boss! backtoblue Jan 2019 #20
YAY trof Jan 2019 #23
You shall not pass! C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #24
Checkmate! George II Jan 2019 #25
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Jan 2019 #28
Way to go Madam Speaker! Va Lefty Jan 2019 #30
I know I did! SunSeeker Jan 2019 #34
Someone won't take this well pandr32 Jan 2019 #31
Lmao...not today MoFo..not in my house.. HipChick Jan 2019 #32
I bet my hubby she'd do this. Yay! Duppers Jan 2019 #33
Keep it up NANCY !!!! I mean , Speaker of the House. Miigwech Jan 2019 #35
This is the PEOPLE'S HOUSE, not Putin's house. Go fuck yourself, Shitler. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #36
Ooh, baby, baby! lunatica Jan 2019 #37
Can she give her own speech that would rival whatever Trump does? Doodley Jan 2019 #39
Uh oh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #40
I can't stop watching this and laughing! johnp3907 Jan 2019 #42
Get ready for it Elwood P Dowd Jan 2019 #41
BOSS MOVE! Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #49
Dick Tater isn't going to like it. ooky Jan 2019 #52
Feel the burn! Totally Tunsie Jan 2019 #53
No security for you Puppetrump. Cha Jan 2019 #55
I love this shit! Pepsidog Jan 2019 #57
There has been no resolution officially inviting trump to the House for the SOTU Gothmog Jan 2019 #60
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #66
Taking bets that he'll open the government the afternoon of the SOTU? fierywoman Jan 2019 #75
Perfect malaise Jan 2019 #62
Yes That's how it's done. FloridaBlues Jan 2019 #73
It would seem more appropriate cojoel Jan 2019 #76
LOVE IT! robleb Jan 2019 #78
EXCELLENT! calimary Jan 2019 #80
Trump can fester in his dump Blue Owl Jan 2019 #81
YES! orangecrush Jan 2019 #83
Nancy sure knows how to woman up! Cousin Dupree Jan 2019 #84
This is MY house!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #85
God I love her! blue-wave Jan 2019 #86
The voices in my head say the state of the union will be from a Catholic School Gym in Kentucky. StTimofEdenRoc Jan 2019 #87
No one wants to hear that creeps hate speech. yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2019 #88
Okay, Everyone Say It With Me: peggysue2 Jan 2019 #90
Couldn't love her any more. Is it possible. Put the spoiled child in his place. Go granny. pdsimdars Jan 2019 #91
Imagine that ! Butterflylady Jan 2019 #94
Good for her! mnhtnbb Jan 2019 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #97
That is not the how or why of this angrychair Jan 2019 #102
That's are Speaker of the People................. turbinetree Jan 2019 #98
K&R ck4829 Jan 2019 #99
Hey McTurtle...pay backs are hell. Hey 45 blame Speaker McTurtle. usaf-vet Jan 2019 #104
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
105. It is the beginning of a power struggle
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jan 2019

And lets hope the orange buffoon does not get away with giving the speech at Congress, it will lift his base, it is a silly and childish thing, but then again so is the buffoon and his followers, nonetheless it is a show of strength and disregard for rules, and walking away from it with no accountability will be a problem for Nancy Pelosi...It will lead for greater disregard of the rule of law.

Right now he is getting away with this shutdown, his goal is to hurt the investigation, nothing else, he sees no consequences to other people, only the benefits for him. He needs to go, and it needs to happen very soon. It should had happen already.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
79. He's screwed there. He cannot demand access.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:03 PM
Jan 2019

The President has to be invited to the house. He cannot demand a royal audience.

This is fun to watch. Of course, the MAGAts are going call her a b*tch and the c-word and all sorts of things. Nothing new really.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
26. He has to ask for and pay for air time
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:28 PM
Jan 2019

The last speech he made from the White House just recently was not aired by most of the networks.

Retrograde

(10,152 posts)
47. Sure - he can even send a written report
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jan 2019

like Jefferson and Lincoln did. The Constitution requires the president to inform Congress "from time to time" about the state of the union - it doesn't specify that it has to be in person.

Massacure

(7,526 posts)
58. I'm sure a written report could even be via Twitter if he wanted it.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jan 2019

"@NancyPelosi - America sucks and I'm making it great again. I'm going to build a wall and lower taxes and bomb Iran!!!" It's less than 140 characters and written with the same intelligence of a kindergartner, but it is a status update.

sarge43

(28,943 posts)
54. He can fax over a Post It.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jan 2019

The Constitution requires that POTUS "from time to time" inform Congress of the state of the union and make recommendations. Article II, Section 3.

An in person speech to Congress is a tradition, not a requirement. Wilson was the first POTUS to do it. Before that a formal letter was sent.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
70. I'd like someone to point out, to the strict Constitutionalists, that
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jan 2019

the Constitution says nothing about delivering the update on live tv.

sarge43

(28,943 posts)
82. In that rat's nest that subs for Moron's mind,
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jan 2019

he probably 'thinks' tv is like wheels and walls; it's been around since the Middle Ages.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
63. You know he has always been shunned by polite society
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jan 2019

This will be in the history books. His narcissistic personality can't handle this diss of disses.

 

mastermind

(229 posts)
74. he can give a speech from anywhere, even his toilet seat but the Peoples House is off limits
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jan 2019

he is talking about giving it at a rally which I'm sure will ship in lots of paid supporters.

dlk

(11,575 posts)
3. This is a New Experience for Trump...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

...Being told “no” by an equally powerful women. He is about to learn there are some things all of his privilege can’t accomplish. I don’t imagine he’ll take it very well.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
50. Agreed. But Madame Speaker is not just equally powerful.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jan 2019

His power is an illusion, hers is real.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
5. She NEEDS to cancel the SOTU....
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:13 PM
Jan 2019

She can and should ( and I think she will). Nothing will hit Trump where it hurts most more than taking away his big speech and his big podium in front of the country.

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
12. She can't 'cancel' it...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jan 2019

it is Constitutionally mandated. She can keep him from delivering it in the House, though.

Article II, Section 3:

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient

splat

(2,294 posts)
14. She can keep him out of the House!
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:20 PM
Jan 2019

As she said, he can give his speech from the oval office.

He's just bullying again so he can whine about being locked out, like he did about being alone at Christmas.

Good thing she's not throwing his clothes on the lawn.

bottomofthehill

(8,344 posts)
19. She can cancel the TV aspect and just recieve it in writing
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jan 2019

a video tape, hell, he can tweet the SOTU if that is how he wants to deliver it to Congress. Nothing says he has to show up in the Hall of the House

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
43. O.K. then "not let him deliver it in the house"
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:46 PM
Jan 2019

And from what that says "time to time" doesn't mandate it be right now during the shut down and it doesn't involve it being televised or in the house. She holds all the cards on this one.

paleotn

(17,947 posts)
46. Nothing in the Constitution states
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jan 2019

it has to be the televised version we know today. That's a relatively new phenomenon. It use to be a simple letter.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
64. Define "from time to time"
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:17 PM
Jan 2019

It's a very nebulous term, and Trump has already given a couple of them...in theory at least, he doesn't have to give another SOTU the rest of the time he's in the White House.

And as everyone's already pointed out, there's no rule as to HOW the State of the Union has to be delivered. He can do it by letter.

niyad

(113,545 posts)
103. Speaker Pelosi explained about the security concersn, and the fact that she refuses to have
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jan 2019

unpaid workers having to provide that security.

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
9. Good for her
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jan 2019

Afterall she's the lady of the House.

If McConnell likes to flick his limp dick, she can stop anyone who goes to the PEOPLES house.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
89. Annoying how he rarely, if ever, provides a link to confirm his breaking news tweets.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:31 AM
Jan 2019

It's not like he's the actual journalist who got the scoop.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
38. From what I read here on DU the White House scheduled a walk through this afternoon for preparations
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jan 2019

BumRushDaShow

(129,398 posts)
59. Here is some info from this evening
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jan 2019
Trump prepares two versions of State of the Union address as shutdown tensions escalate


By Seung Min Kim
January 22 at 7:54 PM

<...>

In an email to House officials sent Sunday afternoon, a White House staffer requested a walk-through from the House sergeant-at-arms to prepare for the presidential address next week. The White House asked to visit the House on Monday, which was a federal holiday honoring the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Much of the legislative branch was closed Monday.

“Checking on the postponed SOTU walk-through meeting from last week. Given that we have lost valuable time over the past week my team would like to reschedule the walk-through for this Monday, if at all possible,” Bobby Peede, the White House’s director of presidential advance, wrote in the email, obtained by The Washington Post. Fox News first reported on the existence of the message. Peede added: “We understand that the House Chamber may not be available or be in session and would be happy to meet at any time, day or night. I appreciate all your and the SAA’s help and assistance over the years and look forward to seeing you and your team this week.”

That walk-through on Monday did not occur. Pelosi canceled a planned walk-through that had been scheduled for Jan. 16, a spokesman said.

On Tuesday night, Pelosi dismissed the note sent to the House sergeant-at-arms as an informal query that went to several hundred people and not a formal request from White House or security officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-seeks-walk-through-for-state-of-the-union/2019/01/22/e91f1c7c-1e69-11e9-bda9-d6efefc397e8_story.html

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
60. There has been no resolution officially inviting trump to the House for the SOTU
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jan 2019

There can be no SOTU without a formal resolution. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/22/white-house-planning-state-of-the-union-1119849

White House officials are aware that Pelosi has the final say over whether the speech will take place in the House chamber. But they intend to move forward as planned until Pelosi scuttles the event, a move that they believe would be seen as political.

For now, Congress has not approved a joint resolution authorizing an appearance by the president next Tuesday, so there is nothing scheduled for Pelosi to cancel. The resolution would need the support of House Democrats, who have followed taken their lead from Pelosi's lead during the shutdown.

cojoel

(957 posts)
76. It would seem more appropriate
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jan 2019

that he go to Richmond and delivery the State of the Confederacy. But the people of Richmond probably don't want his ass there either.

Response to angrychair (Original post)

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
102. That is not the how or why of this
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jan 2019

She didn’t “choose not to invite” him. She choose not to create more work for people who are already not getting paid and working understaffed (meaning the homeland and other security personal).

This was the only one of the two that saw that such an event is a lot of work to create for people not getting paid.

FYI, I think these things are ridiculous and were not done at all in the first 110 years we existed and then not consistently. Carter was the last president to deliver it in writing in 1981.
Jefferson was the first to start delivering it in writing as he considered the speech before congress to monarchist.
The last thing we need to do is encourage that in this idiot.

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
98. That's are Speaker of the People.................
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jan 2019

I wish I had my Valentine hearts to give to her.................

usaf-vet

(6,205 posts)
104. Hey McTurtle...pay backs are hell. Hey 45 blame Speaker McTurtle.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jan 2019

Speaker Pelosi is now the democrats designate pay back chief.

For these quotes and thousand of other steps you took to obstruct President Obama!

McConnell quotes:


1. The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

2. One of my proudest moments was when I looked Barack Obama in the eye and I said, 'Mr. President, you will not fill the Supreme Court vacancy.'
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