Mother of teen staring down Phillips blames "fake news"

[Takket]

Also blamesPhillips for “drumming in (her son’s) face”. We all knew these kids got this entitled racist behavior from their lousy school and parents. Now we have proof.

From article:

In an email to this reporter, the mother of the student right up in Phillips’ face said the story was “fake news.” She claimed that Phillips, who she referred as a “this man,” in quotation marks, was drumming close to the teen’s face. But her biggest gripe, besides saying this reporter was promoting hate, was that she alleged the students were themselves harassed. By “black Muslims.”

“Shame on you! Were you there? Did you hear the names the people where calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping trying to get something to futher (sic) your narrative of hatred?? Did you know that this “man” came up to this one boy and drummed in his face? Shame on you. Only reporting what you want. More fake news.”


When this reporter thanked her for the correspondence and explained that it would be reported on as part of the story, she demanded the emails be deleted.

“Delete my email. I want nothing to do with helping perpetuating (sic) your hate. I do not want to be a part of your story. You are ruining a boys life for fake news. Hate spreads like wildfire. I pray for you.”

Snip

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/ky-catholic-teens-maga-taunts-native-american/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Squinch]

1. THIS is the video that tells the story. The mother is full of shit. She is one of those

responsible for this. OK, don't doxx the Covington Catholic Hitler Youth. Doxx the Nazis who raised them.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211697954

[maddiemom]

29. Illustrates the reason I've found it difficult to teach critical thinking to many students:

their parents feel it's an assault on their long-held, strong beliefs.

[hueymahl]

35. I imagine in many cases, critical thinking is an assault on their long-held, strong beliefs

Because they are merely beliefs, conveniently held to support their ego-centric world view. Critical thinking is sunlight exposing inconvenient truth.

[dobleremolque]

90. I never will forget the home-schooler mother who, when told by a college admissions counselor

that her son lacked critical thinking skills, replied: "I didn't home school him to teach him critical thinking. I home schooled him to protect him from Satan."

[workinclasszero]

36. Of course these Trump Nazi youth were taught to hate at home

and its reinforced in their Trump cult MAGA school!

[olegramps]

55. She represents why million and million of Catholics have left the church.

The parents of these children are actively cooperating in the indoctrination of their children on the misguided principle that since they are opposed to abortion and contraception that they are justified in organizing demonstrations by the student body to hold rallies at abortion clinics. These are events in which they harass and intimidate women seeking their services.

It is a clear example of the extent that religious zealots believe that they have been ordained by God Himself to impose their will on their fellow citizens. They have absolutely no respect for the concept of freedom of conscience which the founding fathers of our nation believed was of such primary importance that they made it the subject of the first Bill of Rights. They were imminently acquainted with religious persecution from which they and many of their immediate family had been subjected. They were determined not to allow the fanatical religious charlatans to recreate what they and their families had fled from. They also made it unlawful to impose any religious requirement for election to office. This key element of the Constitution is being tacitly challenged directly when religious zealots make acceptance of their dogmas a requirement for office. They have no regard for the principle of the separation of church and state and openly mock this principle from the pulpit.

It is necessary to understand the events that took place within the Catholic Church. The key issue that lead to the abandonment of thousands of priests and over 90% or the nuns and millions manning the pews every Sunday was the Catholic Church's hierarchy to refuse to accept the finding of their own commission that had been appointed by John XXIII to reexamine these issues. When then Paul VI was elected pope he released two key documents refusing to alter the church's position all hell broke out and millions of Catholics voted with their feet. These people who are engaged in this skirmish are representative of the extremists who now dominate the church. It is little wonder that young people overwhelmingly are totally disinterested in organized religions and that those who want to adhere to unacceptable doctrines have to rely on indoctrination of their children rather than voluntary acceptance. It is of no difference than the Muslim indoctrination centers and just as dangerous to our concept of freedom of conscience.

[rurallib]

67. As you note in your last paragraph, this is hardly a new phenomena

My old butt hasn't been in a pew since junior year in my Catholic school some 50 years ago. I went to school with a lot of kids who would have fit right in with the group yesterday.

[gopiscrap]

83. I totally agree with you

however it was Paul VI not VII

[olegramps]

98. Thanks for the typo correction

In regard to Paul VI it should be noted that the Vatican's response to the issue of contraceptive birth control was not examined in the light of the overwhelming findings of the birth control committee but solely on the basis of papal authority. Many in the hierarchy surrounding the pope feared that if the church reversed itself on a subject that had taught without any reservation as to its inherent evilness by previous popes it would destroy the authority of the papacy. What they so judiciously sought to protect in fact had the opposite effect when the vast majority of Catholics totally rejected it. The umbilical cord the clergy used for control of the Catholic laity was severed and most Catholics entered an new dimension and began reclaiming to the freedom of conscience that had been severely constrained by indoctrination. The line to the confessional box suddenly disappeared and the church would never again have its power over the minds of the vast majority of the laity.

[gopiscrap]

100. exactly.

[pangaia]

103. I don't see the video. ???

[Squinch]

107. Oh, boy. They took it down!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. There you go- parents + trump screwed up kids. Nt

[TheBlackAdder]

116. A word from Major Payne to the boy's mamma.

.





.

[cwydro]

3. Has the kid been named?

Is that what she means but “ruining his life?”

Looks to me he did it himself.

[paranoid floyd]

46. Although I won't repeat it

the kid has been named on other sites, not here as far as I know.

[gopiscrap]

85. the little fucker should be named here also

[GWC58]

87. I'll just refer to that person as

The Smirking MAGA-T teen. Hopefully that smirk has been wiped from his smug mug! 😈

[LW1977]

4. If only there was a tiny violin emoji

Typical right wing parent.

[volstork]

25. Here you go:

[2naSalit]

7. Seems like the kid put his ignorant face too close to the drummer...nt

[uponit7771]

9. I've seen the full video and she is still wrong. The child should've had chaperones to make

... sure they situation was handled were the kids who were still being at minimum disrespectful to Phillips, would've handled the situation better.

This isn't a "stand your ground" situation ... that at best is childish.

I've seen the whole thing.

[Squinch]

30. See the video in this post. It was a lot more than disrespectful.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211697954

They surrounded Phillips on all sides, prevented his escape, and tormented him. It is just lucky that no one threw a punch, because there is an avaricious violence, a love of their own hatred, in those kids' faces that makes me think they would have torn Mr. Phillips to shreds if the first dog had taken its bite.

And yes, the animal comparisons are intentional.

[UpInArms]

10. The smirking young man (same age as Trayvon)

Was impeding the drummer from moving ... and seemed quite proud of his complete lack of understanding and intelligence.

[spanone]

6. no ma'am, your son is an asshole.

[underpants]

11. Some things don't lie

Camera
Ball
The man in the mirror

Okay the second one comes from one of my all time sports quotes.

[Harker]

50. A golf ball might lie

in the rough.

[underpants]

74. Oh

imagine that's a 5 iron out of the "snake killers" tub in the clubhouse

[Harker]

84. Fair enough.

[True Blue American]

13. Cincinnati TV

https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/local-high-school-gaining-national-attention-for-incident-at-indigenous-peoples-march

https://religionnews.com/2019/01/19/catholic-school-apologizes-after-clip-emerges-of-students-mocking-native-americans/

[RAB910]

14. In fairness, it's clear that asshole

didn't fall far from the asshole tree

[Blue_true]

32. The son is a chip off the old block.

When anyone call reporting fake news now, I just stop listening, they are long gone and want listen to the best of reason.

[DBoon]

47. and in this case the condition appears hereditary

nt

[UpInArms]

8. The apple didn't fall far from the tree

Disgusting people.

Also, what kind of “school” promotes MAGAts? This is inappropriate and crosses lots of lines for me. And, sending “youth” to a rally? WTF?

The entire episode should be rolled into the shitcan, along with all involved.

[womanofthehills]

109. The school promotes the March for Life event - zero tolerance for even any type of med abortion

January, 2019 March for Life
Informational Letter

Dear CCH Parents,
Our school annually participates in the March for Life event in Washington D.C. I have witnessed our
level of participation having grown from 84 students in 2008, to 213 students in
2017. Annually, our Colonels represent nearly one quarter of the Diocese of Covington supporters.

On a daily basis our students are given opportunities to live their faith. They include inserting the words
“born and unborn” at the end of the Pledge of Allegiance.

https://www.covcath.org/uploaded/09_Spiritual-Life/2019_MFL_InformationalLetter.pdf

and they all went to mass to meet Bishop Foys before their obnoxious behavior.

[UpInArms]

111. Dear Gawd

On a daily basis our students are given opportunities to live their faith. They include inserting the words “born and unborn” at the end of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Oh the raising and promoting of zealots ... I fear for a future with these programmed individuals among the population.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

12. She sounds like a piece of work

The little shit knows mommy will back him up no matter how badly he misbehaves.

[Squinch]

26. Also, she is admitting SHE was there and didn't stop her little shits from assaulting an

elderly Vietnam Vet who was minding his own business.

I get what people are saying about not doxxing kids (though I bet many are 18) but I see no reason not to get her name out there.

[DBoon]

53. That is the big problem with children from privileged families

The never suffer the consequences of their bad behavior. Daddy and mommy always cover for them.

[Scarsdale]

15. I do not think the disrespect

shown by this Paul Ryan looking guy stops with the native American. He probably treats all adults with the same contempt. Catholic education seems to be lacking in basic humanities, at least in this particular school. Did these guys march against pedophiles in THEIR church?

[True Blue American]

17. Yes, there are pictures of a group of 5 in red hats

Surrounding a young, black teen doing the same thing. The same boy was the leader.

I have been trying to post the picture but not having any luck here.

[oberliner]

20. Link?

[True Blue American]

22. I could not get the link

Without directing you to another board. Google failed me.

[True Blue American]

23. The picture is a photo shop of teens looking just like that group today

From the 60’s With Maga hats on.

Not real.

[oberliner]

27. Oh ok

I guess I misunderstood - I thought you were saying there was a photo showing that he was involved in something like what you described.

[Miles Archer]

16. I tend to view youth, in 2019, in a somewhat narrow manner

My girlfriend's son's daughter is five years old and adept with an iPad (unlike her dad, who's a stumblefuck in every sense of the word, not limited to technology). "Kids" now, compared to when I was a kid, have a lot more on the ball. They learn earlier, they absorb the world around them earlier.

As a result, I consider "kids" to be pre-teens, and teenagers as members of our society who are old enough to know better when it comes to stare-down contests.

At least mom proved once again that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[oldsoftie]

18. Publicize & shame these spoiled brats.

I dont care what side you're on, if you act like this you should be exposed for what you are; an asshole.

[ismnotwasm]

19. Knew it.

[The Wizard]

21. MAGA is a contagion that must be

excised and buried.

[janterry]

24. Her son will serve as a shinning example of

how not to be in the world. And she will serve as another example of how not to parent.

Good will come from this, in the long run.

Her son will only be ruined if he refuses to learn the lesson.......He sure won't learn it in the short term, but maybe in 5 or 10 or even 20 years he will remember this incident with shame. That will repair everything.

[bobbieinok]

64. Remind anyone of 'Affluensa Mom'?!?

[Hoyt]

28. Like son, like mom.

[Blue_true]

31. Well, if you had questions about where the boy learned his hatred of others.

My bet is daddy is a piece of work too.

[Roadside Attraction]

33. Just guessing here . . . but . . .

This is just a guess, but, I suspect Mom is as big an asshole as her son. I also suspect she'll be sorry she went off in public.

[localroger]

44. Looks like she already is

That sense of entitlement forgot to warn her that when you communicate with a reporter and you don't explicitly say "off the record," you might just BE the news.

[JPK]

34. This event will follow those kids for the rest of their lives

Once their names get out in the public space, whenever they go for a job interview or a background check, their names and this incident will come up and follow them. Good luck kids, have a shit life.

[benld74]

37. Knew! A parent would speak out, in this manner

THATs where it begin folk

[SayItLoud]

38. What's the mother's name? NT

[womanofthehills]

110. Her name is being posted on Facebook

but you never know for sure. Supposedly, she makes around $200,000 a yr and lives in a half million dollar house. (only half a million?) Don't see any mention of a father - but who knows?

[Fla Dem]

39. Where were the adults? Did these teenagers come to Washington w/o any adult supervision?

Who bought them all the MAGA crap hats?

[womanofthehills]

112. Yearly school event - school provides the buses for a 3 day event -

It's an annual school event for the boys to attend the March for Life event. Extremely anti-abortion - no exceptions for medical problems.

Letter from Diocese of Covington

With the beginning of a new year, the Pro-Life Office is making last minute plans for its annual pilgrimage to Washington, D.C. for the March for Life. The March for Life will be held Jan. 18. Each year it is held near the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision, which made abortion, essentially on demand, legal in the United States.

and toward the end of the letter:

“Children are an extension of their parents. If your child is miles away and marching for life and making a stand for life, it would seem to me that parents would feel that spiritual bond with them and would want to join with them in praying for not only their child’s safety but also for the gift of that child’s life,” said Bishop Foys. “I think if I was one of those young people I would feel very comforted to know that even though my parents couldn’t come with me they are back home praying for my welfare and for the cause for which I am standing up.”

As usual, Bishop Foys will attend the March for Life in Washington, D.C. and will celebrate Mass at St. Dominic Church for the pilgrims the morning of the march. Bishop Foys said that for him the Mass is a highlight and one where he sees hope.

“I see the enthusiasm of all the people that are there when we have Mass at St. Dominic’s, the vast majority are young people from our schools but there are also other people — older people, like me, and middle-aged people — there making that sacrifice. I see, especially in those young people, hope for our country and hope for our Church because they are excited about what they’re doing.

https://www.covdio.org/as-pilgrims-plan-to-march-on-the-streets-of-washington-faithful-at-home-encouraged-to-attend-a-holy-hour-for-life/

[womanofthehills]

113. There school bussed kids and parents in for $130 each for a few days

It's an annual school event for the boys to attend the March for Life event. Extremely anti-abortion - no exceptions for medical problems.

Letter from Diocese of Covington

With the beginning of a new year, the Pro-Life Office is making last minute plans for its annual pilgrimage to Washington, D.C. for the March for Life. The March for Life will be held Jan. 18. Each year it is held near the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision, which made abortion, essentially on demand, legal in the United States.

and toward the end of the letter:

“Children are an extension of their parents. If your child is miles away and marching for life and making a stand for life, it would seem to me that parents would feel that spiritual bond with them and would want to join with them in praying for not only their child’s safety but also for the gift of that child’s life,” said Bishop Foys. “I think if I was one of those young people I would feel very comforted to know that even though my parents couldn’t come with me they are back home praying for my welfare and for the cause for which I am standing up.”

As usual, Bishop Foys will attend the March for Life in Washington, D.C. and will celebrate Mass at St. Dominic Church for the pilgrims the morning of the march. Bishop Foys said that for him the Mass is a highlight and one where he sees hope.

“I see the enthusiasm of all the people that are there when we have Mass at St. Dominic’s, the vast majority are young people from our schools but there are also other people — older people, like me, and middle-aged people — there making that sacrifice. I see, especially in those young people, hope for our country and hope for our Church because they are excited about what they’re doing.

https://www.covdio.org/as-pilgrims-plan-to-march-on-the-streets-of-washington-faithful-at-home-encouraged-to-attend-a-holy-hour-for-life/

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. She defines "hate" as anything that jeopardizes her white privilege. . . . nt

[padah513]

41. The Trump Effect

[workinclasszero]

42. Trump/GOP "pro-life" religious groups unleashing a great wave of HATE across this country!

Link to tweet

[True Blue American]

48. The worst part of that picture?

They look like those boys yesterday!

[workinclasszero]

51. Totally

Trump is today's George Wallace.

A beacon of filth and hate for white racists everywhere in this country!

It's even worse now as right wing churches are just a political arm of the GOP.

[True Blue American]

65. Evangelicals

They need to bebrought down hard.

One good thing is the young are totally rejecting them. And Educated Whites are not far behind.

[workinclasszero]

75. Their signs say Love Life - Choose Life

https://www.covcath.org/campus-life/spiritual-life/march-for-life

But their hearts and actions are full of MAGA hate.

[maryellen99]

80. These are the ones who will abandon or deny their girlfriends when they get them pregnant nt

[workinclasszero]

82. No doubt...or..

Pay for an abortion on the down low.

[rufus dog]

88. This is a very telling picture

On the school website promoting the event and a link for parental forms. So this picture was taken in 2018 and used to PROMOTE this years event.

So the admin picks a shot that framed with two kids in MAGAt hats, with one actually pointing at the hat. In their hate filled heads they believe tRump gets them what they want. Let that sink in for awhile. no one stepped back and thought, hey maybe a pic without the MAGAt hats, maybe crop a pic to take out the MAGAt hats, no they specifically decided to make this event a political statement in support of tRump.

[workinclasszero]

93. Oh hellz yah

Trump is their fuhrer, no doubt about that at all!

[smirkymonkey]

92. WTF were these boys doing at a pro-life rally to begin with?

With MAGA hats on - the new pointy white hood. Are they all planning to remain virgins until they get married, or are they going to be like their fellow classmate and rape women until they bleed? I think I know the answer. A bunch of future Brent Kavanaugh's right here in the making.

They have no respect for anybody, and the hats broadcast that message loud and clear. What a sickening bunch of little trolls! Their parents taught them to be this way, but Donald Trump and his red hats have encouraged and enabled them.

[workinclasszero]

94. They look and act like a bunch of gamergate incels to me

I bet they hump AR-15's every night and recite the 14 words before bed too!

[True Blue American]

97. The man on the left is not a srudent.

He is much older. Think about that.

I doubt their hero is pro life.

[Leghorn21]

102. Someone pointed out last night that one kid's throwing the sign for "white supremacy" -

I still don’t know if this is an “own the libs” gesture and is essentially meaningless...but, there it is

[Jake Stern]

73. At least George Wallace turned away from and apologized for his racist past

Trump's ego simply won't let him do that.

[Paladin]

43. Lady, that spawn of yours might as well be wearing Hitler Youth regalia.

I hope he loses that nasty little smirk of his, in a manner he remembers. Same for his asshole schoolmates.

[MineralMan]

45. Yah, well, OK, then, Mom.

You are part of the reason your son is an asshole bigot. And you're proud of that. We get that. Thanks for your confirmation.

[Lucky Luciano]

49. White trash. nt

[NickB79]

52. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree

Apple is full of maggots, rotten to the core.

[octoberlib]

54. His mother is VP of Fidelity Investments

Can’t think they’d be thrilled with this.

[irisblue]

56. Source on that? Thx.

[octoberlib]

66. Google. If the name being mentioned on Twitter

is right , of course.

[True Blue American]

68. Oh, that will not

Sit well with Fidelity!

And the Catholic Church will not be happy. They alrady have enough problems.

[obamanut2012]

70. Just coming here to post this

I won't link or post her name, because it may be hidden, but this has been verified.

[yardwork]

72. Has the kid been identified? Yesterday the wrong person was identified.

PM me?

[dalton99a]

81. The photos match

The FB pages are no longer visible

(The previous name was clearly wrong and quickly debunked)

[yardwork]

89. PM me?

[Harker]

57. She's right about one thing...

hate spreads like wildfire. There's plenty of it on display there.

[LakeArenal]

58. Gosh I'm old.

If I had been seen on tv doing that...
I would have been in more trouble than I just about ever was.....

They would pull me out of that school so fast.....

Probably would never see those “friends” ever again. Or daylight for that matter.

[left-of-center2012]

60. About those 'black muslims' the mother mentioned ...

"According to CNN, a woman in the crowd, Kaya Taitano, said the incident started when the teens and four young African-Americans, who'd been preaching about the Bible nearby, started yelling and calling each other names. It got pretty intense, Taitano said, so Phillips started chanting and drumming to try to defuse the situation."

https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/local-high-school-gaining-national-attention-for-incident-at-indigenous-peoples-march

So it started with a confrontation between white racists and Bible folk?

[Anon-C]

76. Literally!

[Gothmog]

61. This lady is a racist who raised her child to be a racist

This lady is too stupid to be ashamed of her child

[keithbvadu2]

62. If her precious ever rapes a girl, Mom will blame the girl for jumping under her son.

If her precious ever rapes a girl, Mom will blame the girl for jumping under her son.

[keithbvadu2]

63. He's not the only family member to shame his family, religion, school, state...

He's not the only family member to shame his family, religion, school, state...

[BearThom70]

69. Please elevate Elder Nathan Phillips instead of these vile fuckrags

Share this pic/link of Elder Nathan Phillips instead of elevating the dirty little momma's boy racist fuckrag.

[link:https://awwmemes.com/i/nathan-phillips-omaha-elder-vietnam-veteran-former-director-native-youth-d89ba81ad74f46fd987c335f7716f315|

[samnsara]

71. im on the 'IDGAF if these are 'just high school kids'team..... so was Jeffrey Dahmer at one time..

...and John Wayne Gacy...and Wayne Williams....and Putin!..and trump.... Consequences need to be learned EARLY. If these kids dont know BY NOW what is right and wrong then we need to teach them.....either in Military School or Juvie.

[keithbvadu2]

78. Trump went to military school... Earned a 'Neatness and Order' medal.

Trump went to military school... Earned a 'Neatness and Order' medal.

[Ferrets are Cool]

77. I hope she is right about ONE Thing...

"You are ruining a boys life"

[Takket]

96. +1

[gopiscrap]

79. the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

[keithbvadu2]

86. Maybe she should have raised him to be a man... Some articles say he is 18.

Maybe she should have raised him to be a man... Some articles say he is 18.

[gopiscrap]

91. this is the problem with private education

they raise assholes

[oberliner]

95. That is a ridiculous generalization

And an inaccurate one.

[olegramps]

99. Of course you are right.

However, I do think that some, and I emphasis some, of the so-called Christian schools are engaged in virtual mind control of their young charges. They indoctrinate rather than educate. Not very dissimilar than the Muslim schools that engage in implanting radical and vicious hatred in young minds.

[gopiscrap]

120. Bullshit, just about every fucking asshole

I have ever met, spent the majority of his/her time in a private school or was home schooled. You wouldn't find that sort of attitude from public school educated children. Plus their teacher would have watched them better to prevent that sort of shit.

[oberliner]

122. I have found the opposite to be the case

Beto O'Rourke went to an elite all-male private boarding school, for example.

[Squinch]

108. One of the most dependable characteristics of the trump voter is that they live in

the zip codes that have the least interaction with people who look differently from them. There are photos of this school that show it is almost universally white. The vast majority of the students are probably also Catholic and financially comfortable.

They don't engage with anyone unlike themselves. They don't even engage with girls during the school day. They have no idea that "others" are human.

A public school education with economic, cultural and racial diversity, would probably do all of them a world of good.

[cwydro]

123. The Obama girls were educated in private school.

So...

[Turbineguy]

101. Ted Bundy's Mom

felt that way too.

[shanti]

104. On the contrary

Shame on HER for raising a son like that. I'm sure it was a family value

[Stargleamer]

105. Re "Fake News"

"If you can convince people that real news is fake, it becomes much easier to convince them that your fake news is real." -- Garry Kasparov

[Stuart G]

118. When this person used the term, "fake news" she defined herself forever..

Obviously she doesn't know it, but that is what she did..

[Texasgal]

106. In my opinion

it appears that Mr. Phillips was trying to promote peace between the two groups with his drum. IE: Getting in between them etc.

Am I way off base?

[janx]

114. You are not. He said as much.

Last edited Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

He was trying to defuse the situation between the kids and the Black Israelites or whatever that hate group calls itself.

But then he was surrounded and could not extricate himself.

[Sapient Donkey]

119. I just skimmed the video, but it looked to me like the Black Israelites were seemingly hostile to

everyone who was around. I didn't get the impression that the drummer was with them or taking their side in the whole thing.

[maxsolomon]

115. Drumming in his Face! Oh, what times are these...

Do you think she actually prayed for the reporter?

[3catwoman3]

117. I doubt that most teenage boys give a fig...

...about abortion, one way or the other.

[akraven]

121. We can witness where her baby boy got his lack of intelligence. nt