Do you trust William Barr?

[Cyrano]

IMO, after he is confirmed as AG of the Justice Dept., he will do everything possible to protect the orange creature.

And who's going to stop him? The Senate is buying the shit he's selling them, and they're going to look pretty foolish if he turns around and does everything possible to get Trump off the hook?

None of us has any way of knowing what Trump/Putin has on him. But the very fact that Trump chose him to be AG should tell us everything we need to know.

Raise your hand if you think this guy should be confirmed.

Raise your hand if you think he can be trusted.

Raise your hand if you think he's not just one more Trump lap dog.

[Recursion]

1. He's a creature of the Bush family

And, while the Bush family is a criminal syndicate, they have zero love for Trump

[hlthe2b]

4. that is the ONLY thing that reassures me... n/t

[shanny]

53. Why would it reassure you?

Poppy pardoned everyone who could finger him in IranContra (and whatever else) on the way out the door and Barr supported him.

[hlthe2b]

54. For heaven's sakes. I'm not defending him for being a Bush* crony who abetted

GHWBush and the Reagan ilck in Iran contra. Nor is ANYONE else here. The majority of DUers LIVED through that period. We aren't stupid nor have we forgotten.

However, the point is that the staunch Bushies* are NEVER TRUMPERS and thus there is a chance that Barr will thus NOT be a TRUMP sycophantic cover and will actually do what the constitution requires.

That is a weak bit of reassurance granted--and it hardly means any of us are confident he won't screw us all--just that there is a slim chance he's not a 100% Trump toady.

[dchill]

2. No. No. No.

[ffr]

17. This. By his actions, he has shown us who he is. n/t

[dchill]

52. I'm as sure as I can be that he has already pledged loyalty to Trump.

And that's not a thing.

[old guy]

3. No trust here.

[Crazyleftie]

5. I wouild not trust ANY Trump appointee.

[walkingman]

6. Nope!

[lilactime]

7. I don't trust ANY Republican.

[imanamerican63]

8. Nope, nodda, no way!

[Hekate]

9. A week ago I would have said hell no, but Stinky's speculative post has me saying "We'll see"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211681675

[Stinky The Clown]

41. That's where I'm at. I truly have no opinion one way or the other.

It is, indeed, all speculation. People I have no reason to mistrust say they see him as a respected person, not a shill for Trump.

Then there's my post.

Then there's what he has done, wrote, and said over time.

However, I can't make the leap from him protecting GHWB to him protecting the Orange MAGAt.

I really don't know.

[Cyrano]

10. And if he forces Rod Rosenstein to resign? What then?

[Chichiri]

11. *raises hand*

I think if he was planning to subvert Mueller, he would have equivocated more on the obstruction questions, and Motherfucker would have been less surprised to learn of his relationship with Mueller. I don’t think anyone Motherfucker appoints is going to be entirely trustworthy, but I think Barr is the best we’re going to get under the circumstances.

[left_of_center]

51. +1

[helpisontheway]

12. Nope..I don't trust any Republican including Mueller

The info Mueller has seems promising but doubt he would seek to indict the creature. He will probably want us to leave it to the voters in 2020. Comey said this is something that she resolved by voters. Pretty sure Mueller will feel the same.

[haele]

13. No. He's as shady and in with the Mob as the rest of this administration.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out he and Putin are best buds on the down-low - or at least fellow travelers.

His track record shows he doesn't care about justice - he cares about propping up a WASP Plutocracy and destabilizing Democracy for the rest of us.

He's part of the Club, and he has no problems telling the bouncer to keep "the little people" out.

Haele

[kozar]

14. A hopeful raised hand,

being from TN bible belt and knowing this battle against R's. I have email numerous times our Republican reps and Sens. My message has always been same, America needs a hero right now.
Having said that, America's hero will come from the Republican side, I love what Nancy is doing,, but our true American hero will be the one who puts country first.
I am hopeful that Barr hates Trump and is doing this to take him out.

Ok, now I return to reality and out of my make believe world.

Koz

[SHRED]

15. He effectively ended the Iran/Contra investigations

So no.

[Stinky The Clown]

43. That was to protect his patrons back then, mainly GHWB

I do not see him dealing with Trump the same way.

[Autumn]

16. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw Trump. He will be a loyal addition to Trumps shit

team. His history has been clear to see and many of us well remember him. I laugh when I see people thinking he will be different because...Trump. They are a perfect pair.

[Jarqui]

18. No, no & no

He's a snake for Trump

[Hoyt]

19. Best nominee we are going to get from trump. He will be confirmed. So far, neither Sessions or

Whitaker have gotten in the way of Mueller, at least as far as we know. Hope that continues with Barr.

[lame54]

20. No...

He pushed for pardons on Iran Contra

[Stinky The Clown]

44. That was for GHWB

He was a Bush mentee and loyalist . . . . I suspect he still is.

[bluecollar2]

21. No....n/t

[cynatnite]

22. No, but if the Mueller report is as bad as we suspect...

He'll have no choice but to let the chips fall where they may. He will be derelict in his duty otherwise.

[Cyrano]

32. Barr may try to withhold Mueller's report

But in the long run, it won't matter.

The Democratic House can call Mueller to testify in an open, televised session. Barr has no power over the House. It's a different and co-equal branch of government.

Whatever Barr tries to hide will be an exercise in futility. My opinion is that Mueller would testify openly and fully. The contents of his report will be heard by the entire world. It will be Trump's worst nightmare and one he deserves. After all, he's put this country and the world through a nightmare for two years and counting.

[Pachamama]

23. My opinion of whether he should be trusted is irrelevant - but I want to know whether Bob Mueller or

....Rod Rosenstein think he is to be trusted....

[onetexan]

27. Likewise

[Wounded Bear]

24. Jury is still out for me...

Repubs will install him regardless, so only thing we can do is try to hold him accountable some way.

[awesomerwb1]

25. Nyet

[Rocky888]

26. He will be a trump lap dog

[madamesilverspurs]

28. At this point,

I would have to question the motives (not to mention sanity) of anyone who would willingly attach himself to Trump in any capacity. He'll need to overcome the evidence of his own resume in order to gain any measure of trust.



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[Cyrano]

31. Yep. I've gotta' agree madamesilverspurs. Why would

any sane, ethical person have anything to do with the filth of this White House? Nothing to gain. Everything to lose.

[2naSalit]

29. Not no way, not no how, nope.

[akraven]

30. No.

No one as a sTrump appointment, or any Republican, can be trusted. Period. Full stop.

[njhoneybadger]

33. Fuck No!!!!!!!!

[eleny]

34. No...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211679441

[Cyrano]

35. Good link. Everyone should take a look

Iran/Contra resulted in many deaths and an immense flood of drugs into America. Defending these crimes makes Barr a world class criminal who should be in jail with those he "defended" (lied for).

So this prick is going to be our new AG? I guess we're fortunate that Charles Manson is dead. Trump might have pardoned him and then appointed him as new AG.

[Stinky The Clown]

47. That was a very different era and VERRY different cast of characters

Barr was a GHWB protege and mentee. He was loyal to him. Trump ain't Bush. That was then. This is now.

With no intent to flog my post for its own sake, please have a look: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211681675

[Cyrano]

48. Dear STC. I've been a fan of yours for years and

I respect your world view.

BUT ... You knew there was going to be a BUT.

Why would any respectable human being on the face of the earth take a job with the Trump circus/administration?

Why would any sane human being do that?

With absolutely no proof at all, I suspect that someone, Trump? Putin? Whoever?, has something on him. And it may be enough to make him take on the job of AG.

Stinky, you're one of the really smart people here. Regardless of Barr's history with Bush, why would he take a job in Trump's sewer? Why would anyone? WHY?

Outside of blackmail, I just can't find a sane or even reasonable answer.

[eleny]

50. Power in the world has shifted to the oligarchs - Maybe he's featherng his nest

Imo, the oligarchs have had enough of us thinking we live in a democracy and they're just taking it a day at a time doing what needs to be done to grow their control. Barr could be reading the writing on the wall and throwing in with the powerful.

What surprises me is that the Russians who suffered so much after WW2 and for decades after sacrificing their day to day lives so their military could grow - have now allowed Putin to amass so much of the nation's wealth for himself and his oligarchs. It's as if they're back to square one. And now a segment of our own population has thrown in with them.

Thank goodness for Pelosi and to everyone who did what they did for last November's success.

Hugs to you and yours, dear friend.

[spanone]

36. If trump nominated him, NO.

[Claritie Pixie]

37. People have to earn trust. Let's say I am hoping he will do the right thing by law.

[Cyrano]

38. My grandpa used to say:

"Hope in one hand, pee in the other, and see which one fills up first."

I wish I could be more positive about this appointment. But no sane person would place trust in any Trump appointee. Until proven otherwise.

[VOX]

39. Hell no. n/t

[lastlib]

40. I don't trust ANY fuggin' repuglikans. eom

[KayF]

42. not at all

I think he already has the reasons written out for going back on what he said at his hearing.

[NurseJackie]

45. No further than I could toss him.

[frogmarch]

46. NO! nt

[Iggo]

49. Not as far as I can throw him. (n/t)