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nolabear

(41,990 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:06 PM Jan 2019

Nancy is busting Spanky's ass in a presser

Last edited Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:43 PM - Edit history (1)

She’s talking about him like he’s a toddler. “Maybe he doesn’t understand how these trips work.” H”He didn’t know it was a three day trip.” “He endangered not only our group but citizens in the ground.”

He not only leaked the official trip but Plan B, to actually fly commercial? He’s a fucking menace!

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Nancy is busting Spanky's ass in a presser (Original Post) nolabear Jan 2019 OP
Way to go, Madame Speaker! Ohiogal Jan 2019 #1
When a reporter asked her whether she thought the cancellation of the trip The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #2
Beautiful. dalton99a Jan 2019 #4
Whoops, I didn't see your post before I posted! demmiblue Jan 2019 #5
Yes, that broke me up. She is so owning that little weasel. nolabear Jan 2019 #13
That must be a Speaker Pelosi version of... 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #31
Sorry but the true southern saying is "Bless his LITTLE heart.", efhmc Jan 2019 #70
This Yankee thanks you for enlightening me. 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #73
Actually if I were really being polite, I would not have corrected you. efhmc Jan 2019 #74
One of the collar counties of the greater Chicago area, and it... 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #75
Eeek. efhmc Jan 2019 #76
I spent 2 years in San Antonio during my... 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #78
Yeah, that was great. My wife and I were watching her in action and she's PatrickforO Jan 2019 #38
What a perfect response. Chemisse Jan 2019 #60
Troll level: Genius NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #68
He will not understand this subtlety. efhmc Jan 2019 #71
"I don't think the President would be so petty, do you?" demmiblue Jan 2019 #3
That made me LOL. It was brilliant. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #6
Look up "petty" in an old dictionary... dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #34
Since I can't get TV on cold days except through the 'net - akraven Jan 2019 #7
Here ya go: demmiblue Jan 2019 #10
THANK YOU demmiblue! akraven Jan 2019 #11
As they said in the old Almond Joy commercials - calimary Jan 2019 #42
Is she using a magazine with his mug on the cover? peekaloo Jan 2019 #8
Obama Nobel Peace Prize GopherGal Jan 2019 #64
No State of the Union in Congress matt819 Jan 2019 #9
+1. No more joint addresses for the traitor. dalton99a Jan 2019 #12
+1 n/t orleans Jan 2019 #26
+1 n/t orleans Jan 2019 #27
My take on this Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #14
Not very smart DENVERPOPS Jan 2019 #15
Well she would have been OK on the military transport FakeNoose Jan 2019 #21
Don't know for certain so this is speculation padah513 Jan 2019 #41
First thing I thought was - hmmm, an easy way to "solve his Pelosi problem." calimary Jan 2019 #45
+1 n/t area51 Jan 2019 #62
This trip had been planned several weeks out! atreides1 Jan 2019 #51
After the original flight was cancelled, Pelosi's group booked a commercial flight FakeNoose Jan 2019 #54
I can't find a trump tweet with this? Or did he use another person to tweet it? uppityperson Jan 2019 #63
Sorry I'm not a twitter user FakeNoose Jan 2019 #65
From what I can find, just saying she was going to travel was bad enough to endanger many, uppityperson Jan 2019 #66
Lawrence O'Donnell said that since 9/11 the VP and Speaker are required to use military aircraft. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2019 #69
Wellstone. mahina Jan 2019 #61
You may be right. He's out for blood. Hekate Jan 2019 #17
i agree Kurt V. Jan 2019 #24
Who changes his Depends when Melania isn't at home? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #16
The staff at the adult daycare center at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave of course! dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #35
Was a crime committed? Shoonra Jan 2019 #18
What do you think lunatica Jan 2019 #39
is this it? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #19
That's my girl! Nancy, You ROCK!!! calimary Jan 2019 #49
she really does rock! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #50
I believe it had to do with Pelosi going to see the NATO commanders.... flying_wahini Jan 2019 #72
k&r bigtree Jan 2019 #20
This will only affect him if he has a huge male ego. JohnnyRingo Jan 2019 #22
Trump was humiliated due to his thin skin and large ego. maddiemom Jan 2019 #25
Shit. I think Shitler hates Nancy Pelosi more than he hates Hilary Clinton. Texin Jan 2019 #37
By now, MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #53
It seems like he was actively trying to get Pelosi killed. Dave Starsky Jan 2019 #55
Republicans have been outing Americans at every level since GWB's era. ffr Jan 2019 #23
Actually it started with Reagan still_one Jan 2019 #30
Bush Senior True Blue American Jan 2019 #33
Reagan was the first actual treasonist. Dave Starsky Jan 2019 #56
Nixon/Kissinger torpedoing the Paris Peace talks bigbrother05 Jan 2019 #36
And ending up with their companies seized True Blue American Jan 2019 #57
tRumpy and the Rethugs remind me of monkeys, the NoMoreRepugs Jan 2019 #28
Maybe she'll pop up in Afghanistan very soon. JohnnyLib2 Jan 2019 #29
You know, it's not like Pelosi was going on a junket... Raven Jan 2019 #32
Vulgarian lol padah513 Jan 2019 #43
that's what I thought, too NJCher Jan 2019 #46
Trump is stupid for trying to play tit-for-tat with Speaker Pelosi. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #40
He wanted them in danger. C Moon Jan 2019 #44
I have to agree with you. Delphinus Jan 2019 #48
Yes, he did. He wanted to kill her and those she would be visiting. Dave Starsky Jan 2019 #58
Trump is trying to play tiddlywinks.. Democrat 4 Ever Jan 2019 #47
He was just royally pwnd. SummerSnow Jan 2019 #52
I can't put into words BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #59
"Irresponsible" is far too light, Madam Speaker. Trump deliberately painted a cross-hair on you Tarc Jan 2019 #67
Individual #1 is afraid she is starting the prep to be President with important foreign trips eom elfin Jan 2019 #77

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,804 posts)
2. When a reporter asked her whether she thought the cancellation of the trip
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

was retaliation for her postponing the SOTU address, she smiled slightly and said, "I don't think the president would be so petty, do you?"



3catwoman3

(24,025 posts)
31. That must be a Speaker Pelosi version of...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

..."Bless his heart."

That is EXACTLY how petty Trump would be and IS.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
70. Sorry but the true southern saying is "Bless his LITTLE heart.",
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jan 2019

as in minuscule or nonresistant.

3catwoman3

(24,025 posts)
73. This Yankee thanks you for enlightening me.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jan 2019

I will be sure to use it correctly henceforth -

(I'm not being sarcastic - I'm a word nerd, and always want to "do it right.&quot

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
74. Actually if I were really being polite, I would not have corrected you.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

That would be a no no. Is it cold where you are?

3catwoman3

(24,025 posts)
75. One of the collar counties of the greater Chicago area, and it...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jan 2019

...is a bracing 22 degrees with a wind chill of 7.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
76. Eeek.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jan 2019

Sunny and 46 here in Central Tx. Colder than I like it but the sun is nice. Never been to your area of the country but pretty sure now is not the time to visit. Stay warm.

3catwoman3

(24,025 posts)
78. I spent 2 years in San Antonio during my...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jan 2019

...first assignment with the Air Force nurse corps. I was under the northern misconception that all of Texas was flat, brown and dry. San Antonio, as I quickly learned, was hilly, green and HUMID! My first summer there, I thought I was going to melt. I did not spend much time outside.

I remember chuckling to myself on the way to the base one morning, when the radio guy told people that they had better bundle up because it was “a little nippy out there.” It was September, and the temp that morning was a refreshing (to me) 60 degrees.

My favorite, of all the places I have lived, is Denver. I’ve lived in 9 different states, and had 16 different addresses over my 67 years.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
38. Yeah, that was great. My wife and I were watching her in action and she's
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

ever-so-gently tearing Trump a new rear end.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
7. Since I can't get TV on cold days except through the 'net -
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jan 2019

could someone throw in a link?

I love her madly!!! I was one of the "iffy" folks - but when she took the gavel? PURE RAW COURAGE.

GopherGal

(2,009 posts)
64. Obama Nobel Peace Prize
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:57 PM
Jan 2019
he likes it that way.


All the more reason to use the Obama Nobel Peace Prize issue of Time

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
15. Not very smart
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:02 PM
Jan 2019

My take is that it is not very smart for ANY democrat or prosecutor on Mueller's team, or witness to all the graft and corruption to be taking an airplane ride ANYWHERE, AT ANY TIME......

Past history bears this out.................

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
21. Well she would have been OK on the military transport
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jan 2019

... but Trump took that away and told her to fly commercial. I'm wondering how he got her flight info so quickly that he could leak it before she actually left?

calimary

(81,414 posts)
45. First thing I thought was - hmmm, an easy way to "solve his Pelosi problem."
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:57 PM
Jan 2019

First thing I thought was - he’s trying to get her killed! Fly commercial into a war zone. That whole “sure would be a shame if something happened to her” type of thing.

trump is already friends with at least two despots who apparently have ways of dealing with those they consider to be troublesome individuals. Putin, for one, and also that “nice young prince” in Saudi Arabia come to mind.

Color me DEEPLY suspicious. DEEPLY.

atreides1

(16,087 posts)
51. This trip had been planned several weeks out!
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jan 2019

It takes time to make sure all security procedures are in place, this would have involved the State Department, DOD, NATO HQ, and commanders on the ground in Afghanistan!

My money is that the State Department were the rats in this instance!

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
54. After the original flight was cancelled, Pelosi's group booked a commercial flight
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

It was all done in a matter of hours. But Trump got her flight time and leaked it in a tweet last night. If Putin (or someone else) knows what time her plane comes into Afghanistan, what's to stop him from shooting down her plane?
"Whoopsie we made a little mistake!"

It has happened before. Nancy Pelosi was very shaken up over this, as we all should be.

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
65. Sorry I'm not a twitter user
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:57 PM
Jan 2019

... if my post is incorrect I'll change it. Perhaps it wasn't a tweet, maybe he gave the info out as a press release? I don't know but I'll try: to find out.



uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
66. From what I can find, just saying she was going to travel was bad enough to endanger many,
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jan 2019

saying she'd fly commercially without specifics but day was enough to endanger more.

If he gave specifics,

69. Lawrence O'Donnell said that since 9/11 the VP and Speaker are required to use military aircraft.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:35 AM
Jan 2019

This has to do with the Speaker being second in the line of succession.

Given that Donny Two Scoops didn't have a problem with his lapdog Lindsay Graham flying to Turkey, or the FLOTUS using military aircraft to fly to Mar-A-Lago, it's clear that by denying Pelosi her legally required right to use a military aircraft to leave the country, Trump has taken one more government worker hostage.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. Who changes his Depends when Melania isn't at home?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jan 2019

I'm sure he just filled his drawers with that one!



Shoonra

(523 posts)
18. Was a crime committed?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jan 2019

Did Trump announcing to the world including the enemy that a Congressional delegation was on its way to a hot zone, and that they'd be arriving at a commercial airport, constittute "aid and comfort to the enemy"? Was it the equivalent of revealing troop movements?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,389 posts)
19. is this it?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/11819-2/


Q: Madam Speaker, could you just talk about what has transpired over the last 15-16 hours?

Speaker Pelosi. It transpired over – since 2 p.m. yesterday. Our Members who were on the bus – I was ready to join them for a 2:15 wheels up from here to Andrews Air Force Base to visit our troops, pay our respects; to thank them for their service, their sacrifice and their dedication; to get a measure of the leadership of Afghanistan, strength of their military, the morale of their people.

It’s about governance, it’s about security, it’s about the civilian affairs in the country as we make our oversight decisions about our policy, the engagement that we have in Afghanistan. The Members were on the bus already, I was about to join them and the President then canceled the trip. It was kind of a funny letter – saying seven days, going to Egypt – somebody didn’t tell him it was a quick weekend trip, but nonetheless, that served his purpose.

Forgetting him for a moment, not only that, but we had the prerogative to travel commercially and we made plans to do that until the Administration leaked we were traveling commercially and that endangers us. We weren’t going to go, because we had a report from Afghanistan that the President outing our trip had made the scene on the ground much more dangerous, because it’s just a signal to the bad actors that we’re coming.

You never give advance notice of going into a battle area. You just never do. Perhaps the President’s inexperience, didn’t have him understand that protocol. The people around him, though, should have known that. That’s very dangerous.

And then – so we’re saying, well, it’s not only been our safety, that’s one thing, but the more important thing is the people who we would be meeting with, our civilians there, our own troops, first and foremost – again, they take so many risks for us. We didn’t want to heighten the risk for them.

So then we can go commercially, so we say, let’s review this in light of the State Department’s report that the President’s statement has heightened the danger on the ground. As we’re making that decision, all of us together, then the State Department doubles down and says we don’t think you should come because the President’s statement has made it dangerous.

The fact that they would leak that we were flying commercial is a danger not only to us but to other people flying commercially. It’s very irresponsible on the part of the President.

We’ll go again. We’ll go another time. This would have been my ninth trip. One of my colleagues, it was his fifteenth trip, but we’ve been many times to see what the needs are of our men and women in uniform, honor those needs and thank those troops.

Q: How do you know the leak came from the White House? The White House has denied the leak came from them.

Speaker Pelosi. I rest my case.

[ ... ]

calimary

(81,414 posts)
49. That's my girl! Nancy, You ROCK!!!
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jan 2019

And donald, you’re don’t dealing with one of your simpering sycophants here. Speaker Pelosi is a VERY seasoned veteran of this game, including understanding the Speakership. That, too, isn’t her first rodeo either.

PLUS, and I think this is key, she’s a mom and a grandma. Having raised FIVE kids, she’s dealt with dozens of unruly, spoiled, undisciplined, and overly-coddled children. That dynamic has undoubtedly sharpened her instincts about human behavior and the shrewd and gentle-but-firm management thereof. As a mom myself, I totally get this. ANY mom would.

I suspect that’s also how she’s able to herd cats so effectively in the House of Reps.

On edit - CNN just aired a clip of her in that interview - finishing with “I don’t think the pResident would be that petty, do you?” And I thought - “MAN, that velvet glove has a hand grenade in it.”

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,389 posts)
50. she really does rock!
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jan 2019

As tough as a rock and as rough on dirty Donald's head.

He's still reeling and reacting.

flying_wahini

(6,633 posts)
72. I believe it had to do with Pelosi going to see the NATO commanders....
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:43 AM
Jan 2019

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/17/trump-postpones-pelosis-overseas-trip-because-of-shutdown.html|

Pelosi’s spokesman, Drew Hammill, in a series of tweets, wrote that the congressional delegation’s trip to Afghanistan included a required stop in Brussels for pilot rest.

“In Brussels, the delegation was scheduled to meet with top NATO commanders, U.S. military leaders and key allies – to affirm the United States’ ironclad commitment to the NATO alliance,” Hammill wrote.

He added that the weekend trip to Afghanistan did not include a stop in Egypt, as Trump had suggested in his letter.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
22. This will only affect him if he has a huge male ego.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:40 PM
Jan 2019

...So mission accomplished?

We know how Trump held a years long grudge against a black man who publicly humiliated him. Ms. Pelosi will most certainly overtake CNN as enemy of the state before this is over.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
25. Trump was humiliated due to his thin skin and large ego.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jan 2019

A normal, well-adjusted person would have laughed it off. Maybe the dig would have even been felt a bit at the time, but quickly forgotten.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
23. Republicans have been outing Americans at every level since GWB's era.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jan 2019

They are scoundrels and anyone who supports them, the tRump base, are nothing less than scoundrels too.

SHAME! LOCK THEM UP!

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
33. Bush Senior
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:10 PM
Jan 2019

Do not forget Bush getting Iran to hold the hostages and then Iran/ Contra. Bush lying about Iraq?

This goes way back to Republican treason.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
56. Reagan was the first actual treasonist.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jan 2019

Nixon was the first "break the law to get elected" president. He got off scot free. That was the first litmus test of "How many crimes can you get away with to get elected president?" Then Reagan made deals with Iran, and it's gone downhill ever since.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
36. Nixon/Kissinger torpedoing the Paris Peace talks
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jan 2019

Sabotaged LBJ's effort to end the war before the 1968 elections. Any that died after that date are directly linked to those criminals.

Of course you can go back to Prescott Bush and his cronies trying to oust FDR.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
57. And ending up with their companies seized
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

because they refused to quit doing business with Germany during the war.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,451 posts)
28. tRumpy and the Rethugs remind me of monkeys, the
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:58 PM
Jan 2019

Deplorables are the crowd that laughs when they throw poop at the "libruhls" - only time it isn't funny is when it hits them. Like the soybean farmers and the government workers not getting paid.

Raven

(13,899 posts)
32. You know, it's not like Pelosi was going on a junket...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jan 2019

She's a 70 something year old woman who I'm sure does not relish spending umpteen hours on a plane and then being a potential target in a war zone. This just might be one of Trump's cheesiest moves. What a vulgarian he is.

NJCher

(35,706 posts)
46. that's what I thought, too
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jan 2019

when I heard certain right wing columnists calling this a "junket." What bullQ@$#. Afghanistan is not a destination for a "junket."

I would go so far as to say that this is something Congressional leaders obviously get something out of that they don't get any other way. First-hand contact with military leaders, for example. The information isn't filtered. The fact that some of them have done it 9-15 times says something right there.



KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
40. Trump is stupid for trying to play tit-for-tat with Speaker Pelosi.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

She will eventually cut him off at the knees. Trump has no concept of how to deal with women of power. It's alien to him.

He should be playing nice to prepare for what's soon coming his way......

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
44. He wanted them in danger.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

He's a traitor to the U.S., working only for Putin. I can't wait to see him in chains.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
58. Yes, he did. He wanted to kill her and those she would be visiting.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

It is just that obvious. He is a traitor to the United States of America. He is a clear and present danger to this country.

Democrat 4 Ever

(3,941 posts)
47. Trump is trying to play tiddlywinks..
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

and failing miserably while Speaker Pelosi is playing three dimensional chess. He will never get the best of her and is just digging that hole deeper and deeper. Ivanka needs to put him in a timeout or down for a nap. Better yet, start packing their bags, this isn’t going to get better.

Another side scam? Raising money for his re-election in 2020. Really, he’s going to cheat his way back to the White House with 39% and 50 indictments? Just sucking the the racist saps who support him dry before impeachment, indictment or resigning.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
67. "Irresponsible" is far too light, Madam Speaker. Trump deliberately painted a cross-hair on you
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:35 PM
Jan 2019

and dared you to go where terrorists would be waiting.

This is what treason is.

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