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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:32 AM Jan 2019

Trump White House reportedly sought to put Pelosi 'in her place'


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Trump White House reportedly sought to put Pelosi ‘in her place’
01/18/19 09:20 AM
By Steve Benen


One of the most striking aspects of Donald Trump’s petty decision to cancel House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Afghanistan is the degree to which it was lacking in any sense of proportionality. The president and his team were bothered that the California Democrat had raised security concerns about the upcoming State of the Union address.

In response, Trump decided to scrap a long-planned secret trip in which congressional leaders – including the chairs of the House Intelligence and Foreign Affairs Committees – who were set to visit with American troops stationed abroad, while receiving briefings on the status of an ongoing war.

It’s hard to imagine any fair-minded observer making the case that these are two comparable.

So why did this happen? According to a striking New York Times report, the West Wing wanted to put Pelosi “in her place.”

White House officials – including Mick Mulvaney, the acting chief of staff – had been irked by Ms. Pelosi’s invocation of security concerns as her premise for urging Mr. Trump to move his speech, and sought to put her in her place after she had emphasized that she represented a coequal branch in governing, according to aides who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.

Depriving Ms. Pelosi of an aircraft was the easiest way to remind her, they said. So Mr. Trump made a play for dominance and one-upmanship…. White House aides were tickled by the move, even as some acknowledged that Republican House members might fear for their own trips going forward.


It’s as if a group of far-right online trolls took control of the executive branch of a global superpower.

I’m especially fascinated by the idea that the White House wanted to put the House Speaker “in her place.” Does anyone seriously believe Nancy Pelosi will feel intimidated by the amateur president’s sophomoric antics? Is it realistic to think she’ll shy away from confrontations with the White House because Trump threw another tantrum and needlessly cancelled her trip to a warzone the president hasn’t yet visited himself?

Complicating matters, the president’s spiteful overreaction didn’t just affect Pelosi. The Daily Beast had a good report on the broader logistics:

For more than three weeks, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her staff had quietly planned an international trip to Brussels and Afghanistan to check in on America’s longest war. Like most congressional delegations – “CODELs” – it was time-consuming work, involving coordination between numerous agencies, stakeholders, and international officials along with extra security briefings because of the danger of the destination.

Pelosi’s chief of staff worked with a liaison from the U.S. Air Force who was the lead in setting up travel arrangements and the itinerary for the trip. Senior officials at the Pentagon also had been read in on the speaker’s plans, especially those regarding her visit to war-torn Afghanistan, where extra security was needed for her time in Kabul. Two senior officials on the ground in Afghanistan said they received the itinerary for the trip, as they do other congressional trips, weeks in advance and held it close to the chest. Fellow members of Congress made similar accommodations as they prepared to accompany the Speaker on the CODEL.


According to the report, officials at the Pentagon were blindsided by Trump’s move.

“We’re still gathering information just like you,” one official said. “We are trying to figure out what is going on.”

This isn’t the first time the president made a decision affecting the Pentagon without coordinating with anyone at the Pentagon.

In the Trump administration, amateur hour lasts a lot longer than an hour.
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Trump White House reportedly sought to put Pelosi 'in her place' (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
Colossal fail, White House. N/t Guilded Lilly Jan 2019 #1
It is not a fail. trump accomplished exactly what he wanted. pangaia Jan 2019 #18
If he had succeeded it would have been successful lunatica Jan 2019 #33
It failed. Pelosi was not intimidated nor -put in her place-. Guilded Lilly Jan 2019 #34
the white house is like a bunch of immature high schoolers....without the intelligence spanone Jan 2019 #2
You think any of them read the Constitution malaise Jan 2019 #6
Absolutely dalton99a Jan 2019 #14
You'd almost think a narcissistic sociopath with developing dementia was running things. Girard442 Jan 2019 #3
This psychologist agrees with your diagnosis! JohnnyLib2 Jan 2019 #7
Now I hope more than ever Blue Owl Jan 2019 #4
And soon! 2naSalit Jan 2019 #29
Trump failed in his efforts Gothmog Jan 2019 #5
If by "in her place" they mean in the ground. Zoonart Jan 2019 #8
He is the one who bragged about shooting someone on 5th Ave. akraven Jan 2019 #16
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #9
cowardly Trump didn't want to be shown up by a girl Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #10
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2019 #26
+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #30
Goes to show bdamomma Jan 2019 #11
Seems the babylonsister Jan 2019 #13
Absolute misogyny...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #31
Wily Coyote truly is a genius next to these dumbasses C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #12
Something says a Polictical Payback is Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #15
If this did anything, it made more people pissed off even more than before. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #17
Well said saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #19
Bill Maher has had it right for years . . . he calls him a "whiny little b*tch" pdsimdars Jan 2019 #20
"spiteful overreaction didn't just affect Pelosi." BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #21
Nope. Melania went to Mar-a-lago on an AF plane. Graham is in Turkey Arazi Jan 2019 #36
Yup and right on cue BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #37
Key Word: "Her" DallasNE Jan 2019 #22
Traitor has to traitor. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #23
Sophomoric is le mot juste gratuitous Jan 2019 #24
He is so not ready for primetime. He has no idea how the big boys play..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2019 #25
Oh she's in her place. Maybe soon she'll be in his. nolabear Jan 2019 #27
I'm hopping it becomes a reality...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #32
She is already in her place - the speaker's chair. 3catwoman3 Jan 2019 #28
Co-equal? Qutzupalotl Jan 2019 #35

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. It is not a fail. trump accomplished exactly what he wanted.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:53 PM
Jan 2019


throwing a tantrum because he couldn't have ice cream for desert and trying to get revenge...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. If he had succeeded it would have been successful
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jan 2019

It failed and now Pelosi just owned Trump instead of being “put in her place”. He did not accomplish anything except to look like the limp dick he is.

Girard442

(6,082 posts)
3. You'd almost think a narcissistic sociopath with developing dementia was running things.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jan 2019

Oh yeah, and enabled and directed by a foreign adversary.

Blue Owl

(50,474 posts)
4. Now I hope more than ever
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

that trump and pence are indicted and Pelosi steps in and restores dignity to the White House.

Please let it be so!!!

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
8. If by "in her place" they mean in the ground.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jan 2019

They meant to endanger her life and the lives of those who would be assembled to meet the delegation.
This is how a malignant narcissist acts and those around the MF45 are cancerous too.
We need to burn the nest or dust off and nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,388 posts)
10. cowardly Trump didn't want to be shown up by a girl
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jan 2019

Folks, you have to stop looking at this like there's an adult in the White House.

Donald is too cowardly to go to Afghanistan. Speaker Pelosi is not. He couldn't bear to have reports of her visiting the troops in a place where he's too chickenshit to appear.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
11. Goes to show
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jan 2019

you that the POS tRump and his most trusted aid Stephen Miller have no clue what they are doing.

They just hate powerful women. "Put her in her Place?" sounds very mafia. This bullying shit must stop

He blindsided the Pentagon??? Can they get on his ass?

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
13. Seems the
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jan 2019

Pentagon is trying to show respect for the office. I cannot believe there's any left for dt.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
15. Something says a Polictical Payback is
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jan 2019

in the works.

Trump has let the Genie out of the bottle never to be returned.

Think about how this stunt just blew up any chance of trust between Political Parties.

BigmanPigman

(51,618 posts)
17. If this did anything, it made more people pissed off even more than before.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

If all those people working on this and planning to attend the trips this will only make them angry/angrier at the fucking moron for risking their lives over a petty abuse of power in an immature POTUS's tiny hands.

BumRushDaShow

(129,293 posts)
21. "spiteful overreaction didn't just affect Pelosi."
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jan 2019

I don't know why they just focused on the House travel or DOD. You have Senators like Graham, Rubio, Ayn Rand Paul, etc., who just LOVE taking those junket trips since they are on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The directive will impact THEIR travel as well (if it is even legal).

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
36. Nope. Melania went to Mar-a-lago on an AF plane. Graham is in Turkey
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:45 PM
Jan 2019

This is deliberately aimed at Dems, more specifically at Pelosi

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. Sophomoric is le mot juste
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jan 2019

With the added attraction of endangering the lives of those in the congressional delegation by revealing secret travel for the government, as well as the advance teams going to prepare for a visit to a war zone (something that McDonald has still not done in more than two years of squatting in the Oval Office).

3catwoman3

(24,024 posts)
28. She is already in her place - the speaker's chair.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jan 2019

And I so hope nolabear (see post above) has prescient powers - may she soon be occupying the Oval Office!

Qutzupalotl

(14,321 posts)
35. Co-equal?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:35 PM
Jan 2019

The House, that is, of which she is the principal representative, and Congress as a whole.

These scumbags like Mulvaney surrounding the traitor seem to want the President to be a king.

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