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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhat happens to the assets of those deported?
who's handling their affairs, assets once they've left?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)Some have spouses who are legal citizens who then take control of what trivial assets remain.
Demonaut
(8,924 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)and need to pay rent, utilities, feed and clothe themselves and their dependents.
If most Americans cannot come up with even $400 to cover and emergency, these people probably cannot com up with even $100. Those who are deported are generally the poorest of the poor.
What sort of right wing nonsense about rich illegals are you buying into?
rampartc
(5,432 posts)legal or not.
Demonaut
(8,924 posts)you should think before responding.
many come here to work, they keep expenses low and they usually work longer and harder than many US citizens.
"these people probably cannot com (sic) up with even $100"
Now that is a rw talking point.
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)Some, not rich foreigners, actually establish local roots and successful businesses.
Demonaut
(8,924 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)They have rent and utilities and need to feed and clothe themselves and their children. They don't acquire very much.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)and so on. What does it matter at all if it is not very much? By whose standard? The assets belong to THEM. What happens to the assets?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)Not a Lexus, not a Tesla. Maybe a fifteen year old something or another. And it depends on exactly how the car is titled. It probably winds up in some sort of limbo. If there's a spouse, maybe that person can change the title on the car.
My point is that there is almost nothing of real value being left behind by those deported. You seem to think differently.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)If your total assets are worth $1756, all legally obtained, you should not have any of those assets stolen from you by the US government. That is the point.
Tesla.
Jesus.
You know the majority of people here illegally have overstayed visas, right? Many of them have built very solid lives, businesses. Some have the assets of any average American. Some even more.
None of them should have their assets stolen by the US. None of them. Not those with $314 or $314,000.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)Perhaps the government simply takes possession of those '91 Ford Broncos. Does it really matter? I somehow doubt the aggregate value is all that high.
Some of those assets will be titled in someone else's name. Some of them aren't the kinds of things that are titled at all, such as furniture, clothing, and the like. I doubt the government is seizing them and somehow profiting. More likely, these very low value assets are simply abandoned, sort of like when someone leaves a bunch of crap behind in a rental apartment.
When people are deported they are sent back to their country of origin. They leave behind whatever they cannot carry with them. If they actually had valuable assets, chances are they could have evaded the deportation. And if I'm wrong, I still don't understand what you, or the original poster, is getting at.
They've overstayed a visa. They've tried to establish a life here and it didn't work. While I'm not crazy about our current system, and don't understand the rush to deport, these are people who took a chance that backfired. And I still say that rarely are there items of high value left behind. Of course, those married to legal citizens have those assets retained by those same legal citizens.
Demonaut
(8,924 posts)and you base this assumption on what?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)they might have been better able to maneuver through the system. However, as I think about my statement and your comment, I should retract the "they could have evaded deportation" because that does not really follow.
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Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)So there is that.
912gdm
(959 posts)now you can get your internet law degree!
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)Bluesaph
(703 posts)Some have businesses. I know someone who is a used car dealer. He buys cars at auction and repairs them and sells them. He usually has four or five at a time. If he gets deported, indeed, what happens to his assets? Its a valid and HUMAN question.
sinkingfeeling
(51,469 posts)claim that immigrants don't contribute anything to America. They're all poor and undereducated.
I live in an area with around 22% Hispanic immigrant population. They own half the small businesses here. Not long ago ICE came after a family that owned 6 successful restaurants because the father was undocumented, but had lived here for decades.
haele
(12,667 posts)If they own a successful enough business, they can typically afford a lawyer that allows them to delay deportation in enough time to get their affairs and assets in order. If not, the spouse and kids, or nearest natural relative or business partner typically takes over. But if neither of these situations apply, the courts will liquidate all assets to pay off any creditors and legal fees, then put whatever's left in holding for the deported person until s/he is able petition to get what's left of their money to them - just as would happen with someone who has been sent to prison.
Our local NPR station recently had a bit on the effects on deportation spotlighting a family where three kids were born here, but parents came over 20 years ago, and because "life" had gotten in the way, they still had not gotten their naturalization documentation in order in time to avoid the first wave of Trump's ICE crackdown.
From what I remember of the story, the family was still renting while the father ran a small lawn care and landscaping business - so the kids were evicted when the parents were deported. The deportation was for no reason other than ICE had their address from their application file and they were "easy pickings".
The older son who was two years into an under graduate program at UCSD kept the business going between taking classes with his high school sister running the books to pay for his degree and then middle school brother helping him, and they ended up living out of the van they used for the business until they could build enough back up to rent a house by the time the sister graduated high school and applied at the local CC.
That was the reason for the story - he's going to get his BA in International Business this year with around a 3.9 GPA, and he talks about how his sister is hopefully going to be able to get into an Engineering or Math program after she gets her AS and his brother will continue on to college after he graduates high school.
Those kids worked their asses off to do well in school and keep the business going to support them, while the parents got work closer to the border so they could help as much as they could.
Haele