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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWatching the news on CNN/MSNBC. To put it bluntly, this is OVER. trump is a criminal and finished.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)How long will it take them?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Just look at McTurtle.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Mode from here on out. We have seen this before with Nixon. Until Mitch McConnell and Coryn and Thunne decide it is past time to save our Country. Nothing changes,just gets uglier.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)who aren't being paid. A Russian asset.
Not a bright move, orange guy.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)that will change. Appears most States that operate all of our Social Welfare programs are out of funds or will be out by the end of three weeks time.
So,that means all those Folks living in Red States,29 in think is the number,are crap out of luck. Of course the Libertairian's are loving this scenerio .
The memo,empty bellies means empty heads will need to be watched.
Kablooie
(18,637 posts)To impeach Trump for felonies will reflect on their party so they will ignore all of it.
Trump really could shoot someone on 5th Ave and the Senate will just look the other way.
So don't get your hopes up.
Committing felonies for personal gain and being a Russian Agent intent on bringing down the USA doesn't bother them one bit. It's all being done under the banner of the GOP so they will defend it to the death.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I agree. They will do nothing. I will be very surprised if they do something.
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)that is the only way we get a chance to get the POS out of the 1600 Pa, and no guarentee it won't get OJ or final scene of scarefacish getting him out of there if we somehow manage to actually "win" the election ...
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Fox news was on for the first three hours of every day. They dont really like trump, but since he is a republican, they support him.
Flatly, when they hear trump-Russia they dont -at all - believe it could possibly be true
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)muthafuckin OPEN BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKING FINALLY.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)when Ali Velshi came on for Brian Williams. It looked like all hell was breaking loose.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)including Doris Kearns Goodwin.
MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)on my iPad because I couldnt stand it once I heard she was going to be a guest. I struggle with sleep these days so I swear off tv right before bed to calm my mind down. I still hang out with you all, however, because its become a habit since November 2016. It feels like something gave way tonight...finally.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)I load up all the MSNBC podcasts - from Niccolle Wallace through Brian Williams -.and listen to them through my earbuds all night long!
I wake up on and off during the night and miss some of the discussion, but puts me right to sleep!
I do wonder what it does to my psyche!
triron
(22,011 posts)MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)I listen to a crap ton of podcasts but they get my blood pressure up with this shit show we have rolling at the moment so I listen to them all day and in the car. I need dark and silence to even try to sleep. I usually nod off chatting with you all here on DU then sleep for 2-3 hours then Im up again about 3 am or so. Menopause is killing my sleep. As is MF45 and his posse of traitors.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It plays havoc on your entire system! No matter how tired you are you wake up bolt upright, totally awake multiple times a night. And thats just one of the malfunctions you are riddled with.
All that went away when the doctor put me on hormones. The relief was almost instant.
MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)helped all my symptoms except the sleep. Ive been playing with CBD tinctures and have had some success...but the one thing that always rocks my boat is tv...it gets me amped up beyond belief. Getting older aint for sissies!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But once your over menopause it gets much better than before menopause! You wont have it any other way!
MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)Good things ahead. Thanks lunatica.
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)And I'm perfectly normal.
George II
(67,782 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)Sometimes I just turn it off and do something else - but at the same time I'm afraid I'll miss out on a hot scoop, like tonight. It's like a slow-motion train wreck - it's horrible to watch but you can't keep from watching.
I hope this is the beginning of the end of this stinking mess.
fierywoman
(7,688 posts)for the spelling!) That's exactly how I feel about watching this tRumpdumpwreck -- can't keep my attention away, to the detriment of almost everything else in my life right now.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)or someone who is glued to the tv?
fierywoman
(7,688 posts)gore at the scene of an accident, therefore slowing down the freeway (in both directions) a lot. At least that's what my sense of the word is. (I just googled it -- it has many meanings, mine being one of them.)
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)I'm in Minnesota, but if I had to guess, it was on old cop shows, so from California.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)Mr. Quackers
(443 posts)tblue37
(65,477 posts)I first heard it from a Vermont native, so it is found all over. I hear it in Kansas all the time.
Pluvious
(4,314 posts)I believe most people know blue (and white) light upon our eye's retina in the evening is counterproductive for sleep.
A Dark Mode would be so helpful !
Ref: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211689910
dhol82
(9,353 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)I do hope that the funk spreads to Pence, Ryan, McConnell and others.
Time to do a huge prune of the republican criminals.
Clash City Rocker
(3,398 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)This is seismic news. If there is corroborating evidence,
the whole conspiracy unravels. All the trumpers go down.
Now the question for them is... do they cooperate or go
to jail. I also want to know if Pence has been snared too.
George II
(67,782 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....this is blockbuster news, and Mueller has it all documented.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)the end.
triron
(22,011 posts)Makes me want to vomit. No way in hell; what happened to Bill Clinton in no way compares to this! This motherfucker is a damn traitor.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Trump makes Nixon's crookedness almost seem like "a third rate burglary" afterall. Bill Clinton lying about sex shouldn't even enter the conversation.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)it will be right there for all to hear. He tried to sell the "fake tapes" thing then too - didn't work.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)we are dealing with a completely different criminal here, aided and abetted by a similarly sleazy cast of criminals (repubs in congress and his supporters).
I am so hoping this is the thing that will finally bring him down!
triron
(22,011 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)it wasn't that they believed the tape wasn't real - they knew it was - they just didn't care that he assaulted women. Even Melanie admitted it was real and all of his supporters parroted her and Donny's spin of calling it "locker room talk" and had all kinds of other misogynist reasons for not caring about it.
He was bein' a real man, dontcha know.
mucifer
(23,558 posts)I bet on NPR and network tv and radio they will say Nancy and trump need to figure out the shut down. That's all I ever hear.
George II
(67,782 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)They dont.
A few do, like Mueller, but not many.
When Barr who has no business anywhere near the DOJ is confirmed I am curious to see how much treason he will commit.
There is a one percent chance he is not a traitor and will do the right thing, maybe 2.
at140
(6,110 posts)Please tell in detail what you heard. Thanks.
MissB
(15,811 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Going to go with your judgement. Whew.
George II
(67,782 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Thank you Mitch McConnell! We're going to run roughshod over your grave for generations to come.
BigmanPigman
(51,623 posts)opinion as far as the law goes.
hibbing
(10,103 posts)I've seen this movie before, and that was before the batshit crazies took over that party.
Peace
vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)But as stated below, it appears to have reached critical mass. Any logical person would have hated this mother fucker no later than early 2016. So where we saw things that would have taken down any Dem, the deplorables ignored them.
The shutdown and not paying people finally seems to awakened some of them. The knew he didn't pay contractors, fucked over numerous people, lacked all morals, but they weren't fucked over by him. Now they see the average Joe being asked to work for free, the see repukes making comments that these people are over payed. IMO they can remember similar comments from Sr. Management at their own workplace. They know govt workers and they know they are just like them, working, trying to pay the mortgage, trying to give their kids a little something like dance lessons or soccer leagues.
In LA the local news seems to have a nightly story with some fucked over govt worker, and in almost every case the person states he is having to tell his kids that all activities have to be cut. Almost everyone with a kid has been through this, not enough money to pay for all the activities they want to try. These people are actually WORKING and have to tell their kids they can't pay for any activity.
Is summary, a MASSIVE FUCK UP by these assholes. Some black or mexican who the deplorables think are on govt assistance is fine from their point of view. Someone just like them is getting fucked over due to tRump, and it isn't playing well at all.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)in a felony. It far surpasses any bombshell that came before.
same old, same old ... yawn.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Rs simply are not going to do what needs to be done, regardless of how horrible it gets.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)This morning I posted that Andrea Mitchell was treating Dems the way she normally treats Repukes, very respectful. Then she played a tRump clip from the Pentagon, made a comment that his statement was not true.
Tonight at the gym Faux/Laura Ingram was on, the chyron was something the the effect "media treats Pelosi stunt as valid while criticizing tRump presidential response.
Some such as Andrea, have turned on a dime, now there will be critical mass and the soft tRumpers will be afraid to speak up.
ecstatic
(32,727 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Don't rule out a strike on Iran
triron
(22,011 posts)I wished it was over but it's not. It's over when the motherfucker is out of office.
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)Gothmog
(145,481 posts)Link to tweet
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OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)Gothmog
(145,481 posts)Link to tweet
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struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)He is getting his personal AG so its far from over.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and still they stand united against America, keeping our US government shut down to submissively appease Comrade Dirty Donny.
Disgusting.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Frum said it best If conservatives cant win democratically, they wont abandon conservatism, they will abandon democracy.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)I'm just so tired of seeing our system being abused and I want some sort of justice at this point.
It's heartening to think Cohen could say what he did outside of the Muller umbrella, I admit that. I want to be hopeful, but this has been an extremely rough ride so far.
VOX
(22,976 posts)They act as a human shield around 45, and dont give a damn about his illegal and immoral acts. These vile animals arent going to just give up, regardless of what the law says.
The very fact that 45 is still in office speaks volumes about the GOPs intentions regarding 45, even after his demonstrating time and again how incredibly unfit and corrupt he is.
DFW
(54,428 posts)Criminals in the White House are seldom finished. Watergate was not only a long time ago, but the perps have learned a thing or two from the experience.
How many of Reagan's cabinet did time for Iran-Contra?
Who was sent behind bars for outing a CIA agent? Cheney never did time. Rove never did time. Sure, they set Libby up to take the fall for Valerie Plame, but they pardoned him soon after.
For raping the country financially and the phony premise given for the Iraq invasion, who did time? Who was even indicted? Nobody.
After December, 2000, when Condoleezza Rice told the Clinton-Bush transition team to fuck off when Sandy Berger told the incoming Bush team that Al Qaeda was by far the biggest threat (i.e. not Saddam Hussein), who was brought up on charges of mass negligent homicide on Sep. 12, 2001? The only punishment Condoleezza got was a delayed promotion to Secretary of State.
greyl
(22,990 posts)DFW
(54,428 posts)Out of the White House, out of mind (and more to the point, out of the circle of protection). The circle of wagons has been drawn, and they were not inside the perimeter when the circle closed.
malaise
(269,144 posts)The Con and his family are going down
DFW
(54,428 posts)Watergate ultimately brought Nixon down because he never realized that what he did exceeded the bounds of legality until it was too late. Trump doesn't, either of course, but his legal team does, and their damage control has kicked in way before Nixon's ever did.
Nixon said, "I am not a crook," and believed it.
Trump thinks, "who gives a rat's ass?" and believes no one does.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)... audio recordings, text messages, emails, etc.
There's a lot more evidence that Mueller has we and the media are not aware of yet.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not sure shes even warming up.
Oneironaut
(5,519 posts)Its becoming increasingly obvious what he did, but do you really expect Republicans to care? The Senate wont vote to convict, no matter what Trump has done. Trump will absolutely never resign.
Our best hope is to vote him out in 2020 at this point. Even that is up in the air.
I think we should focus on the 2020 election. Trump will not be removed from office.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)share in the optimism.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....of trump telling Cohen to lie to Congress.
Lots of that other stuff was speculation.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....into the summer. But I see no way out of this other than his resignation (which he won't do) or impeachment and conviction in the Senate.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Pretty much what I expected. Smh.