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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:45 PM Jan 2019

A heartbeat away from defeating Roe?

From the article:

ABORTION RIGHTS are at risk once again in Ohio. However, the most recent revision of House Bill 565, known popularly as the “Heartbeat Bill,” is by far the most dangerous iteration of this anti-choice bill ever presented in the state....

The Ohio Senate passed the Heartbeat Bill in early December with a vote of 18-13, and after Gov. John Kasich’s veto of the bill, supporters of the bill attempted to overturn his veto but failed by one vote....

EVEN WITHOUT the Heartbeat Bill, Ohio lacks adequate abortion access, notably in geographic terms. There were 17 abortion-providing facilities in the entire state of Ohio as of 2014, and these numbers represents a 35 percent decline since 2011 in abortion providers.


To read more:

https://socialistworker.org/2019/01/17/a-heartbeat-away-from-defeating-roe

The fight to defend reproductive rights continues in many states.

Even in Illinois, called a "haven" by some because there are numerous clinics here that provide abortion.

But Illinois also has on the books a provision that, if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned, abortion would be illegal.
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A heartbeat away from defeating Roe? (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP
Pro-choice groups need to start challenging this type of legislation with the 13th Amendment. CrispyQ Jan 2019 #1
An excellent argument to make. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
1. Pro-choice groups need to start challenging this type of legislation with the 13th Amendment.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jan 2019

The 13th Amendment

https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers

2010
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman
Northwestern University School of Law, akoppelman@law.northwestern.edu

I. The basic argument
The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the essence of involuntary servitude."6

Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and not themselves.


Parents can't be compelled to donate their organs to their child, even to save the child's life. Why does a fetus have more claim on a woman's organs than her child who has been born?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. An excellent argument to make.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

But conservatives have no problem with involuntary servitude. The GOP is filled with racists who long for the pre-civil war era.

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