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Advice to AOC. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 OP
Advice to one Freshman Congresswoman HopeAgain Jan 2019 #1
She is in the spotlight. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #4
You make many valid points. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #30
I don't think it matters. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #2
Ask Eric Cantor. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #5
She and Sanders do one fundraising email for her... WeekiWater Jan 2019 #9
If you look at her FEC filings, that has already happened. 99% of her contributions... George II Jan 2019 #27
I dont trust JD, anything connected to Cenk. I hope she divorces herself from them as I would Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #53
If anyone is in the mood this morning to advise someone else's MOC violetpastille Jan 2019 #3
Some are beyond help. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #7
I'm not being sarcastic. violetpastille Jan 2019 #11
Fax her your lunch order is earnest? nt Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #16
Yes violetpastille Jan 2019 #22
Can we please not mansplain Stare Decisis Jan 2019 #6
Well, you assumed I was a man. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #12
Your concern is noted. Stare Decisis Jan 2019 #18
Do you think she doesn't understand that role as a MOC? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #28
Do you really think she reads DU? athena Jan 2019 #33
This. nt Tipperary Jan 2019 #71
Just because a man gives a woman advice it's "mansplaining"? Sheesh. BTW, we don't know.... George II Jan 2019 #29
I think grits is a woman. cwydro Jan 2019 #64
Are the people in her district complaining? Autumn Jan 2019 #8
Well, she just got started. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #13
You should. That way you can put your mind at ease. Worry and stress sucks. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #15
Not gonna be my hopes gone flying. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #19
So is your concern for Eric Cantor? Maybe after 13 years people in his district finally realized Autumn Jan 2019 #24
How does what he/she said get translated into concern for Cantor? George II Jan 2019 #56
Closer to home... tonedevil Jan 2019 #26
This. Rep Crowley who really does poll higher in her district. Squinch Jan 2019 #60
If that is true... tonedevil Jan 2019 #62
It really was. And he has admitted as much. She deserved to win it. But she can't phone in Squinch Jan 2019 #65
If that isn't obvious to her... tonedevil Jan 2019 #66
I know some people in her district (I grew up in Queens). Yes, they're complaining. George II Jan 2019 #31
Did they prefer Rep. Crowley? /nt tonedevil Jan 2019 #38
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #10
Oh please. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2019 #14
'Real' advice would have been through a mechanism through which she would be certain to see it LanternWaste Jan 2019 #21
Pretty much this. n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #43
Self delete since everything is being flagged. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #23
I don't think it's Rush Yosemito Jan 2019 #17
Isn't this one of the messages she ran on? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #20
New York has a blue Governor, senate and legislator . We don't need advice . pwb Jan 2019 #25
I think the OP is referring to a potential primary RandySF Jan 2019 #55
What gives you the authority to advise a congresswoman? athena Jan 2019 #32
The First Amendment gives everyone the authority. Mariana Jan 2019 #34
I guess what I should have said is, athena Jan 2019 #40
Oops, sorry I didn't scroll back to see you'd said it. Mariana Jan 2019 #42
Excellent points. athena Jan 2019 #44
I wonder if Rep. Cuellar thinks of Cortez as a friend TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #47
She's more than just associated with Justice Democrats. George II Jan 2019 #58
Why should she befriend Rep. Cuellar? Mariana Jan 2019 #63
Cortez doesn't have to befriend him, TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #69
Take it easy... I think AOC will be ok if Grits says something on DU.... ehrnst Jan 2019 #37
Sure she will. Mariana Jan 2019 #48
Then you must find most of DU "silly," because I see "pretending to give advice" ehrnst Jan 2019 #70
She'd do well to take a lesson from Deb Haaland from NM: ehrnst Jan 2019 #35
Wash Post: "A cautious hope emerges among Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's constituents" manhattan123 Jan 2019 #36
Whe I went to Bill Clinton's inauguration, I saw all of the adoration, the cheers ehrnst Jan 2019 #39
This is important for all elected officials. SharonClark Jan 2019 #41
Just like every other Representative who wins more than one term. nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #49
Sound advice malaise Jan 2019 #45
When she was interviewed by Rachel last week, the VERY FIRST thing bullwinkle428 Jan 2019 #46
I suspect that isn't enough to satisfy the perpetually concerned. nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #50
She is only one in Congress I have heard talking about effect of shutdown on her constituent service wishstar Jan 2019 #51
But she tweets, you know. Mariana Jan 2019 #57
On latest threads page this thread has an arrow, someone tell me what the arrow is? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #52
Good advice to any freshman RandySF Jan 2019 #54
I'm guessing she doesn't read DU. Perhaps you should email this to her? n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2019 #59
This IS good advice to any freshman. I don't know why you are taking so much shit for saying it. Squinch Jan 2019 #61
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #67
I LOL'd KG Jan 2019 #68
Advice to everyone: stop placing a Band-Aid over the blinking 12:00 on your VCR. n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #72
K&R betsuni Jan 2019 #73
? what the hell ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #74

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
4. She is in the spotlight.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

She has gotten a lot of attention about her number of twitter followers and her committee assignments.
While I realize she wants to tackle big issues, the people in her district will expect her to address them and their concerns. Ask Eric Cantor.
This is advice for ANYBODY in public office. However,when you are in the spotlight, you have also got a bullseye on your back. She best not forget her peeps.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
2. I don't think it matters.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jan 2019

The manner in which she is a media creation makes her a national figure. She will be flooded with funds from outside of her district. Those funds will then be used to remind the people of her district that she has been paying attention to them. Money talks and AOC is going to be rolling in it. It's a strategy that can work. It almost took out Cruz in Texas.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
5. Ask Eric Cantor.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

In addition, Ted Cruz was in a different situation in a different type of district.
The national spotlight may not bring in the votes you think she may get. Twitter followers don’t get to vote for her.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
9. She and Sanders do one fundraising email for her...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jan 2019

And she will bring in more than any competitor in her district can for a month. That is my opinion.

"Twitter followers don’t get to vote for her."

Money does get votes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. If you look at her FEC filings, that has already happened. 99% of her contributions...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jan 2019

...came from outside the 14th District, 77% came from outside New York State.

Obviously some people not in her district or state wanted her in office.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
53. I dont trust JD, anything connected to Cenk. I hope she divorces herself from them as I would
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jan 2019

love to see her be successful.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
3. If anyone is in the mood this morning to advise someone else's MOC
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jan 2019

Please pick mine!

She is truly awful.
Tell her we stand with Inslee and want light-rail.

Here is a zip code: 98660

https://twitter.com/herrerabeutler


Washington, DC Office
2352 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-3536
Fax: (202) 225-3478

Fax her your lunch order!


Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
7. Some are beyond help.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jan 2019

I live in SC.
However, some of the best run offices were those by Strom Thurmond and my GOP Congressman Tom Rice. I would vote for neither if they delivered my lunch order.
That remark was spurious and you know it is not what I mean.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
11. I'm not being sarcastic.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

I'm in earnest.

If anyone is in the mood to advise someone elses' MOC, I want in on that.

Please tweet Jaime Beutler-Herrera and tell her that killing sea-lions is not the answer and that we stand with Jay Inslee and want light-rail.

 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
6. Can we please not mansplain
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

to a courageous woman how to do her job? My guess is she will be just fine with her constituents. My advice to you would be to make sure that Tim Ryan knows that there is just working class, not a white working class, or a black working class. Just working class.

Or is my fellow Irish male exempt from criticism?

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
12. Well, you assumed I was a man.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

How quaint.
My advice comes from talking to political reps and observations over the years.
This was advice. It has been learned the hard way by some.
It is a reminder to a new member of Congress who probably has a lot of people working to undercut her whether she can see them or not.
I am not one of them. I hope she serves several terms.

 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
18. Your concern is noted.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jan 2019

My only advice to her is to listen to the people who know what they are talking about. Like Speaker Pelosi. She is and that is a very good thing. Beyond that? She got herself elected. Should I not assume she knows what she is doing?

athena

(4,187 posts)
33. Do you really think she reads DU?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jan 2019

If your concern is genuine, you should send her a letter, not post here.

But I suspect this has more to do with grandstanding than genuine concern.

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. Just because a man gives a woman advice it's "mansplaining"? Sheesh. BTW, we don't know....
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jan 2019

...if Grits is a man or woman.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
19. Not gonna be my hopes gone flying.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jan 2019

She can worry about her own self.
Ask Eric Cantor how it went for him.

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
24. So is your concern for Eric Cantor? Maybe after 13 years people in his district finally realized
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:00 PM
Jan 2019

he was a fucking Republican who never gave a fuck about their needs

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
62. If that is true...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jan 2019

then him just phoning in the primary was not merely dim, but boneheaded stupid.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
65. It really was. And he has admitted as much. She deserved to win it. But she can't phone in
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:26 PM
Jan 2019

anything about her constituents either.

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. 'Real' advice would have been through a mechanism through which she would be certain to see it
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Were it real advice, it would have been through a mechanism through which she would be certain to see it. Anything else is simply righteous-person-yelling-at-rain.

Regardless, I see zero indication that Cortez is not listening to her constituents.

So yours is simply advising the sky to remain blue.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
25. New York has a blue Governor, senate and legislator . We don't need advice .
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jan 2019

From anyone. We elected her and will again because of the way she is.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
34. The First Amendment gives everyone the authority.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

However, as someone already pointed out, it isn't really advice at all. It's just criticism. If it were advice, it would be sent to the Congresswoman, rather than being posted on a message board that she probably doesn't read

athena

(4,187 posts)
40. I guess what I should have said is,
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jan 2019

“What makes you such an authority on the subject?” I meant “authority” as in, speaking authoritatively on a subject. After all, AOC is the one who won her election, and she would be expected to know something about how to do her job better than some random person on the internet.

I was the other person, btw.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
42. Oops, sorry I didn't scroll back to see you'd said it.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jan 2019

Anyway, it is interesting that there's a whole bunch of new Representatives, but only this one keeps getting singled out for this kind of phony "advice". There is no reason whatsoever to suppose she isn't making friends and building alliances, seeking the advice of the elders, staying in contact with her constituency, and all the other things the perpetually concerned constantly "advise" her to do.

athena

(4,187 posts)
44. Excellent points.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jan 2019

It seems to bother some people that she’s young, female, fearless, and popular. I agree that she appears to be doing everything right. At first, seeing all the criticism, I assumed there must be some truth to at least some of it, but every time I look into what she said that drew criticism, her words seem professional and completely reasonable.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
47. I wonder if Rep. Cuellar thinks of Cortez as a friend
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jan 2019

considering that the organization that she is associated with decided that he should be primaried?

I must have missed out how that move counts as alliance building.

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. She's more than just associated with Justice Democrats.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jan 2019

She is (or was up until a few months ago, if not still) in the inner circle of decision makers for Justice Democrats.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
69. Cortez doesn't have to befriend him,
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 08:01 PM
Jan 2019

but she almost certainly made an enemy when she didn't use her influence with the Justice Democrats to stop them from attacking a Democrat.

Cuellar was elected repeatedly by the voters in his district and Cortez should respect that--Cuellar even has a school in Laredo named after him. I'm certain that a lot of people would be in hysterics if the situation were reversed and Cuellar set out to recruit a candidate to primary Cortez in her district in 2020.

BTW, I grew up 100 miles from Laredo so I'm very familiar with the politics and voters in that area going back almost a century. A lot of Texans will label Cortez as a "carpetbagger" and what plays well in NYC won't work in Laredo. She should stick to the SXSW festival in Austin where the crowd will adore her. Oddly enough, I never could afford to attend SWSW when I worked in Austin even though I earned a decent income.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
70. Then you must find most of DU "silly," because I see "pretending to give advice"
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jan 2019

to everyone in the public eye here at one time or another.

No need to raise your blood pressure.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. Whe I went to Bill Clinton's inauguration, I saw all of the adoration, the cheers
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jan 2019

the magazine article about the post WW2 generation saying "It's finally our turn - here's our voice."

I thought, "There is no way anyone can live up to this hype. The higher you fly, the harder you fall."

We all know what happened.

And now it's happened to Sanders.

I get the same feeling about AOC. She's like a hothouse flower, and she's going to be expected to get out in the weather for her constituents.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
41. This is important for all elected officials.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jan 2019

Why do you think Charles Grassley gets re-elected? He takes acre of his voters and they know it.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
46. When she was interviewed by Rachel last week, the VERY FIRST thing
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:25 PM
Jan 2019

she addressed was the fact that the shutdown was preventing her staffers from acquiring the necessary equipment needed to handle all of the essential services for her constituents.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
51. She is only one in Congress I have heard talking about effect of shutdown on her constituent service
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe you missed it, but in a recent interview she talked about how her staffers who provide constituent service were being hampered in providing help to residents in her district because they were not able to obtain equipment such as laptops due to budgetary and equipment constraints caused by shutdown. She seemed quite focused and concerned on that aspect of her responsibilities. She won her election by going door to door meeting many residents of her district so I don't think she is in danger of neglecting that important part of her job.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
57. But she tweets, you know.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jan 2019

Some of the perpetually concerned seem to think that composing those takes up all of her time, so she can't do anything else.

RandySF

(58,917 posts)
54. Good advice to any freshman
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jan 2019

And I think she will because my gut tells me she has her eye on higher office in NYC.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
61. This IS good advice to any freshman. I don't know why you are taking so much shit for saying it.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jan 2019

The guy she ousted was more popular than she was, and she simply outdid him in direct contact. So your advice is particularly germaine in her district.

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