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dsc

(52,162 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 08:25 AM Jan 2019

There is one job a Senator has that can't be done by anyone else

and that is voting. Missing yesterday's vote for a meeting about seeking a new job wasn't right. He should have excused himself from the meeting, went to vote, and continue the meeting. One of the pitfalls for any senator who runs for President is the fact he or she will miss votes. It is one thing to miss a routine vote because you are in Iowa or New Hampshire. It is quite another to be in DC on the day of an important vote and miss it to attend to your presidential campaign. Yes, in the grand scheme we would have lost even with Sanders' vote. But it should have been cast.

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There is one job a Senator has that can't be done by anyone else (Original Post) dsc Jan 2019 OP
I agree katmondoo Jan 2019 #1
He was at his all day meeting for an hour. Flimsy excuse. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #2
maybe he just didn't want to vote on it JI7 Jan 2019 #3
ding ding ding WhiteTara Jan 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author dsharp88 Jan 2019 #5
Perfectly stated! EffieBlack Jan 2019 #6
Sanders NotHardly Jan 2019 #7
There's no such thing as a routine vote. They were elected to vote, not to campaign. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2019 #8
Yes it definitely should have been... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #9
Isn't it possible to abstain in a US senate vote? uriel1972 Jan 2019 #13
Yes. I believe someone can vote "present" ... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #14
Why can they not vote remotely? The Mouth Jan 2019 #10
Why can't that just all show up? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #11
I mean, really EffieBlack Jan 2019 #19
Because one of the points of Congress is for its members to convene, interact and deliberate EffieBlack Jan 2019 #18
I don't disagree with that, but The Mouth Jan 2019 #20
yup JHan Jan 2019 #12
I agree. yardwork Jan 2019 #15
His past votes on Russian sanctions is troubling as well. allgood33 Jan 2019 #16
Does this REALLY surprise anyone ? Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #17

Response to dsc (Original post)

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
7. Sanders
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

It was telling behavior. He told us how he will vote on things important to us by not voting.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Yes it definitely should have been...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jan 2019
But it should have been cast.
Yes it definitely should have been. And everything else you've noted is correct as well.

But, considering the documented history of previous votes (and statements) it's unclear to me how he would have voted anyway. Would he do an about-face and vote in favor of Russian sanctions that have been so strongly opposed in the past? Or would he risk voting with the GOP and giving a present to Russia?

All I'm saying is that given those two "difficult" options, not many people are surprised that he found a convenient way to be "too busy" to attend and go on the record when the chips were down and ALL VOICES needed to be heard.

These are legitimate and fair questions. People deserve to hear honest answers. People have a right to know EXACTLY where their representatives stand on things like this.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Yes. I believe someone can vote "present" ...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jan 2019

... to indicate they didn't care one way or another. It they can just not show up.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
10. Why can they not vote remotely?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jan 2019

I see nothing in the Constitution that says any official has to be there in person.

Seems utterly silly in this age of phones and email (hell, utterly silly since the invention of the telegraph).

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
18. Because one of the points of Congress is for its members to convene, interact and deliberate
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jan 2019

None of which would happen if they could phone it in from bed.

It's not exactly forced labor to expect them to show up to vote ...

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
20. I don't disagree with that, but
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

in the cases where they are legitimately back in their district.

Just seems silly- we have video conferencing, the internet... Nothing wrong with interacting or deliberating, of course, but ZERO excuser to miss a vote just because they aren't physically present.

Not arguing that the overpaid lazy-asses should be at work, obviously, they should; but not voting because of not being there?

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
16. His past votes on Russian sanctions is troubling as well.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jan 2019

There is something really ugly hidden underneath it all. Can't quite put my finger on it but here are some names rolling around in my head and the interconnection of some of the players...

Ed Shultz, Nina Turner, Russian TV, Black Lives Matter, Hillary hate, Russian donations, Russian trolling black voters, Klein, Devome. "Russian interference is a diversion", "not important to other issues", contributions to campaign from Russians, DNC contributor info breech, tax returns, . Go figure.

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