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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGiuliani moves goalposts: Maybe there was collusion... but only by campaign, not by Trump.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/16/1826908/-Giuliani-on-CNN-I-never-said-there-was-no-collusion Giuliani: You just misstated my position. I never said there no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign.
Cuomo: Yes you have.
Giuliani: I have not. I said the president of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC.
Cuomo: Yes you have.
Giuliani: I have not. I said the president of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC.
Yeah... That doesn't cut it.
First, if there was a crime and Trump was aware of it, then he must have told the FBI or else he's guilty of racketeering.
Second, this is about way more than just the hack. This is about conspiracy to manipulate an election, obstruction of justice, witness-intimidation, possibly treason.
Third, at the 1:30 mark, Rudy says that Trump had no knowledge of the change in the party-platform to make it more Russia-friendly, and that he can personally confirm that Trump had no knowledge of that. Did he just offer himself as a witness to this whole investigation???
Fourth, at the 1:35 mark, Rudy ridicules the notion of any candidate knowing what's in the party-platform.
Fifth, at the 2:30 mark, it doesn't matter that Manafort gave the Russians internal polling-data because internal polling-data is bunk.
Sixth, when pressed that this proves collusion between the campaign and the Russians, Rudy changes topics and rants how this doesn't prove collusion of the President.
And then he rants on and on and changes topics twice more until Cuomo forgets the question he wanted to ask.
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Giuliani moves goalposts: Maybe there was collusion... but only by campaign, not by Trump. (Original Post)
DetlefK
Jan 2019
OP
Spinnin' wheel, gotta go 'round... talkin bout your troubles it's a cryin sin...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#1
This confirms there was at least collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
honest.abe
Jan 2019
#5
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)1. Spinnin' wheel, gotta go 'round... talkin bout your troubles it's a cryin sin...
ride a painted pony let the spinnin' wheel spin.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)2. They're going to move those goalposts all the way to Leavenworth.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)3. Rudy is bitter.
Playing the martyr did not work out so well for his political ambitions. If Trump the bully had not come along and needed an ignorant lying toady where would Rudy be today? He may actually be paid to say this crap.
safeinOhio
(32,690 posts)4. Where does the buck stop?
With every republican.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)5. This confirms there was at least collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Rudy is now in major damage control to protect Trump and will sacrifice others to save him. That is not going to work as there is no doubt Trump knew what was going on and approved of it and likely orchestrated it and I am sure Mueller has evidence of it.
The end is near folks.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)6. You'd Think A "Lawyer" Would Know.........
..........that under THE LAW, the boss is responsible for everything his employees do while on the job.
malaise
(269,063 posts)7. Smart folks believe something big is about to drop
ITTMF!!*
*Impeach, indict or both