Ok, I know in the scheme of things this is minor, but who the hell wears a cowboy hat at WH meeting?

[hlthe2b]

and, yes, a formal meeting with President (yeah, I know) in attendance? Really? One is not required to remove a cowboy hat in the White House?

Is this now a "thing?"

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[DURHAM D]

1. It looks like the Governor from Arizona.

Not the real Governor but the one who played him on Madam Secretary.

[MontanaMama]

2. Hats at the table.

Rude. My mom would’ve tossed his ass out till he took it off.

[dflprincess]

10. My mom as well

My 8 year old grandnephew recently called out his dad for not remember to remove his cap before sitting down at the table.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

29. Here's another WH tradition, as described by President Bartlet

Though fictional, Jed Bartlet was a thousand times the president Trump is.

[Kali]

86. in the house at all!

[Polybius]

87. I hated that rule so much as a teen that I refused to go over my Grandmother's house for dinner

My mother tried to convince me to just go and take it off, but to no avail (hats at the table were allowed in my house, growing up in the 80's and 90's). She hated my earring too. Looking back, I wish I had visited my Grandmother a lot more often, but my hat never bothered anyone either.

[mr_lebowski]

3. If I didn't know better I'd guess the person taking the pic had just farted really loud

right before snapping the shot ... the dude in the red tie to the right of Wilford Brimley there looks EXTREMELY disapproving ... lol ...

[BigmanPigman]

5. I noticed this last week and had the same thought but then I saw

that a man further down the table from this cowboy dude is another cowboy hat wearing dude (not seen in this picture). I am not familiar with cowboy fashions or hat wearing etiquette so maybe they have their own rules that I am not aware of as a non cowboy hat wearing, east and west coast city dweller.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. I was wondering the same thing. Looks like some sort of cop badge on...

his lapel.

Texas Ranger?

Mayberry PD?

WalMart Security?

[RockRaven]

7. Assholes...?

Wait, is this a trick question?

[Generic Brad]

8. That's easy. Because he's a cowboy

Without the hat, how else would we know?

[ChubbyStar]

9. Wait...WHAT is this? A formal meeting at the White House?

My local bus stop has better looking and better groomed people.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

38. No...Just a "Tell me two good things about me" presidential(?) gathering.

[Midnightwalk]

11. Someone who is all hat

[dalton99a]

12. His name is AJ "Andy" Louderback, Sheriff of Jackson County, Texas

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Two fake cowboys

[Blue_Tires]

42. Donnie loves surrounding himself with small change lackeys...

[winstars]

13. I am a city guy but DON'T YOU TAKE OFF YOUR FUCKING HAT WHEN INDOORS.

"Hi, I have great big hat and a very small penis..."

[TeamPooka]

16. and when meeting with the President.

[winstars]

17. Comparing their "mushrooms"...

[lpbk2713]

14. Some asshole like Ted Nugent would.

[keithbvadu2]

83. Is Nugent holding Palin? She looks creeped out.

[lpbk2713]

88. Yup.

I'm glad Dolly Madison isn't around to see what has become of her White House.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/04/20/ted-nugent-sarah-palin-and-kid-rock-visited-the-white-house-for-dinner-with-president-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d92ec747b591

[Bayard]

15. Maybe he thinks it will protect him

From some of the bullshit flying out of tRump's mouth.

[irisblue]

18. A Texan wearing a hat indoors? WTF?

That is a tacky fool

[TexasBushwhacker]

20. His mama would slap him n/t

[irisblue]

21. And his Aunts

And then his male relatives...would have a serious discussion out back.

[Dave Starsky]

35. I have relatives who are actual Texas cowboys.

I.e., they own and work on a cattle ranch in Texas.

And, yes, they wear cowboy hats.

They take them off when indoors. Always. They're cowboys, not ill-mannered slobs.

[panader0]

67. Yup. I know guys here in SE AZ who are real cowboys.

They are polite, "ah shucks" kind of guys. "Yes maam, no sir."
They might keep their hats on at the bar, but not at dinner, or a
big occasion. I'll bet Trump wanted him to wear it--"Here's my cowboy,
where's my African American?"

[Kali]

78. ...

[ProudLib72]

19. Born in a barn and raised to stay there

See all the barnyard animals he's surrounded by?

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

39. +1

[LiberalFighter]

22. Saw that too and was wondering WTH.

Might be okay in a porn movie. But at the WH?

[DavidDvorkin]

23. This is as silly as Republicans carping about Democrats' clothing.

[hlthe2b]

25. So you couldn't wait to post to insult everyone who has posted on this thread? Really?

My very subject line made clear I wasn't making this out to be a critical issue given all that was going on, but rather a curiosity.

Thanks very much for your (total lack of) contribution to civil discourse. Do you feel "superior" now? Just as with wearing a hat at a formal meeting in the White House, your posting makes clear that basic manners are now (perhaps irreparably) eroded.

[DavidDvorkin]

62. Wow! You got all that just from my pointing out how silly your post was!

[fierywoman]

24. Bald men.

[2naSalit]

26. I saw another one on a video clip yesterday

some older guy with one of those museum piece mustache features growing out of his face. He was wearing a c'boy hat too. Apparently those aren't considered hats..?

[blogslut]

27. Laid by a buzzard and hatched by the sun.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

37. +1

[OnDoutside]

28. There's a very simple reason, and here it is

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[WePurrsevere]

30. Just another rude & disrespectful "all hat, no cattle" type of 'Con. nt

[Ilsa]

31. I want to see him try to wear that hat indoor at

a place like a navy O-Club. You remove your cover or else someone might take it off for you, and give you a lecture your momma should have given you. I don't know if paying for a round of drinks for everyone in the bar applies to civilians.

[bluecollar2]

41. At N.A.S. Moffett Field the rule applied

In the enlisted club as well.

[Ilsa]

69. Do civilians get a pass, or are they made to

suffer for their transgressions?

[bluecollar2]

72. No exceptions...tradition is tradition

Navy regulations/traditions require that hats/covers be removed when indoors.

Civilians are expected to honor regulations/traditions.

[Ilsa]

75. Good. I know that the MSC (Memorial Student Center) at

Texas A&M University has this rule. You are set straight in a hurry. The MSC has a Hall of Honor with biographical information on eight Congressional Medal of Honor recipients that were graduates, and most or all were in the Corps of Cadets.

A&M commissions more officers into the military than any university other than the military academies, last I heard. Enrollment in the Corps of Cadets now stands at 2,560.

[USALiberal]

80. I imagine a few get roughed up, slapped around. nt

[rogerashton]

32. OK, it's not a cowboy hat.

It's a stockman hat, and yes, there is a difference. A cowboy hat would be slouchier -- the two shown in a reply post, whatever they are, are not stockman hats. Wearing it indoors is another matter. My granddad wore a stockman hat outdoors pretty much every day. He was very particular about a proper hat. It would have a level top -- as shown -- and an ample brim. Straw in the summer, felt in the winter. For the felt hat you get a choice of colors: ivory gray or silver gray. And a gentleman never remains uncovered indoors. Wearing those slouchy "cowboy" hats indoors is a boomer thing and goes with line dancing. And, yes, I have a stockman hat on a peg in my foyer. I must have worn it at least once in the last decade.

[Kali]

79. out here in the local land of stockmen, ranchers, farmers, truckers, and cattlemen and women

we just call it a hat. period.

[Vinca]

33. I noticed that, too. Probably Don told him to keep it on because it made the set look good.

Anyone who had a grandma knows a man takes his hat off indoors.

[KG]

34. someone hiding a bald spot?

[NurseJackie]

40. Classless. Tacky. Rude. Disrespectful. Unprofessional. Common.

[IronLionZion]

43. Dude wants people to know he's Texan

even though Jackson County is quite far from the southern border. It's up the gulf coast near Houston and San Antonio

[LakeSuperiorView]

44. It's part of his costume.

He think people won't realize that he is an important person unless he has the costume just right. He thinks it makes him look taller, lik Diipshit thinks a long tie makes you less fat.

[FSogol]

45. Exactly, if he took off his hat, no one would know he's a pretend cowboy. They'd just think he was a

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sweaty doofus.

[hack89]

54. I think he is a Texas Ranger

certainly a LEO.

[NurseJackie]

51. Costume! Yes... exactly. That's the perfect way to put it.

[hack89]

61. It's his uniform

he is a Texas Ranger.

[NurseJackie]

65. He's a classless oaf.

[hack89]

66. Ok nt

[LanternWaste]

70. Service members remove caps and hats when inside...

unless under arms in an official capacity or when directed by the commander.

Try again.

[hack89]

74. He is not a service member

Try again.

[Drahthaardogs]

46. Not a cowboy

Wannabe.

[MineralMan]

47. Easy. Morons wear hats at White House meetings.

Wearing hats indoors is doltish and violates all rules of etiquette. Period. Ergo, the man in the hat is a rude moron, as well.

[CreekDog]

48. Champ Kind of the Channel 4 News Team of course

[hatrack]

49. A stupid fucking shitkicking redneck, that's who . . .

.

[rogerashton]

50. Speaking as a person with a chronic sunburn,

the term "redneck" is a slighting reference to skin color. No prob, we rednecks don't give a shit. Just sayin'.

[LanternWaste]

71. "just sayin'"

"... A term coined to be used at the end of something insulting or offensive to take the heat off you when you say it." I read that as "cowering behind implication..." but narrative may force others to pretend differently.

As a 50-year redneck, I can only wish it was slight... it would give me even more justifications to maintain the pretense of oppression.

Just sayin'...

[rogerashton]

73. Oh, did I say something insulting or offensive? to whom, may I ask? eom

[k8conant]

52. and Kanye West wore his Make America 'Grate' Again cap when schmoozing

with the rotten orange.

[RT Atlanta]

53. An asshole and certainly not a gentleman

as others note above, what man wears a hat indoors?

[hack89]

55. He looks like a Texas Ranger judging from his badge.

so the hat is part of his uniform. Don't know what the rules or custom regarding wearing the hat indoors is.

[hlthe2b]

56. Since others suggested that, I checked out some of the regs and sports coat, ties, etc.

are normally the dress for court, and other "high exposure to public events" such as Legislative appearances-- so this assumption that the hat (whether indoors or not) is required, seems not to be the case...

I know this is not a big deal except for the further erosion of norms and "manners".. No big deal for some, but I think it is for many, given how much Trump has destroyed the office of the Presidency.

Special Circumstances. Court appearances, Governor's Security, Executive Security, Legislative appearances, or any other high exposure to public events requires specific appropriate dress, and requires a suit or sports coat and appropriate pants, such as dress slacks or suit. Dress jeans or “Wrangler” style jeans are expressly prohibited.

https://www.texasranger.org/texas-ranger-museum/texas-rangers/dress-regulations/

[hack89]

57. I suspect that it is custom and was cleared with the WH first.

but who really knows?

[hlthe2b]

58. Really?

I find that hard to believe, given how this WH is run.

I guess when you appear before a "BOOR", boorish behavior becomes the norm.

[hack89]

59. One would think that a senior Texas Ranger has some measure of intelligence and professionalism.

regardless of how incompetent the WH is.

[Brother Buzz]

60. The hard rule is courts and churches....and...

Mama's house. That ranger just might have taken off his hat if there was a handy hat rack.

[Kali]

84. still should come off when indoors

[MurrayDelph]

64. Ever since I had surgery for a minor cancer on my nose

I regularly wear hats when I'm outside. I mostly wear Stetson and Fedora: wool when it's cold out, leather when it's raining, and straw when it's sunny.

When I walk over the threshold into a building, I take the hat off (even when it's only Costco, which is often full of baseball caps worn indoors). If the hat has a brim, you take it off when indoors.

The only time I wear a hat indoors is when I'm cosplaying. It's four weeks until the Doctor Who convention in L.A., where at various times I will be wearing a Tom Baker Fedora (with scarf), a Stetson, or a fez (frezzes are cool). A few years ago, I wore a Santa costume with hat indoors (I even put a red filter on my mobility scooter's headlight so I could call it Rudolph).

[akraven]

68. If he's a Ranger (as indicated by the badge) it may be a requirement.

If so, forgiven.

If not, arrogance and stupidity.

[USALiberal]

81. Seriously? why the fuck would rangers have to wear hats indoors? Stupid. nt

[akraven]

82. Uniform requirements vary.

Seriously, they do.

[Hassler]

76. We know it isn't Hinky Zinke.

[Kajun Gal]

77. "Small" men wear big cowboy hats, drive big vehicles and wear HUGE red ties.

Just sayin...

[Kali]

85. ...for no good reason.

plenty of real rural men do those things for legit reasons (well, not the gigantic red tie, no good reason to do that).