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Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 05:39 PM Jan 2019

How the hell do these racist morons think we're going to put a border wall on 1,200 miles of river??

Last edited Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Mexico sure as hell isn't going to let us put it on their side of the Rio Grande, and putting it in the middle of the river is both comical and terrifying, leaving the only viable option is to build it on our side, thereby depriving Americans access to it for both irrigation and recreation.

You can't have a "both sides" debate when the thing being proposed by one side is idiotic.

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How the hell do these racist morons think we're going to put a border wall on 1,200 miles of river?? (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Jan 2019 OP
I shouldn't joke Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #1
Since it's just an excuse to have a fight, there doesn't need to be an answer to this question. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #2
You've stumbled into the solution! jberryhill Jan 2019 #3
Oh thats an easy one! sdfernando Jan 2019 #4
Meanwhile CabalPowered Jan 2019 #5
Think is the operative word peggysue2 Jan 2019 #6
An international treaty forbids building near the river.... albacore Jan 2019 #7
it wouldn't work. Wall would be just inside US with river between US and Mexico Demovictory9 Jan 2019 #8
A more effective symbolic barrier would look like this. It would be immoral. Marcuse Jan 2019 #9

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
1. I shouldn't joke
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jan 2019

But you shouldn’t ask an engineer. You build the wall down the middle. That way you get a moat in both sides.


On the advice of counsel: sarcasm!!! I can’t fund that drippy thing in smilies

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
2. Since it's just an excuse to have a fight, there doesn't need to be an answer to this question.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jan 2019

"We'll figure it out, Poindexter. Why do you hate America?" would be their likely response.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. You've stumbled into the solution!
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

So... we sell the river to Mexico, use the money to build the wall. Done.

Lol.

"These racist morons" have no idea.

Trump actually does not give a shit whether a wall is built, where it is built, or how it is built. "The wall" is just a talking point.

That they are using "the wall" as an excuse to shut down and effectively dismantle the government and the ordinary operation of government, and to weaken this country's security and economy, is the point.

The wall? Nobody gives a shit about a wall.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
6. Think is the operative word
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jan 2019

They don't think anymore than Trumpski thinks. I was reading a piece a few days ago written by an engineer indicating that the Trumpster and his team had not conferred with civil engineers for their input as to the project's physical viability. He's simply rounded up a bunch of contractors to build models and called it a go. In addition to the practical building considerations, there are a number of environmental concerns (not in Trumpski's consideration), eminent domain realities and day-to-day commercial trade with American and Mexican businesses and farms along the border.

It's a stupid, unpractical idea/meme, the hill on which Trumpski has decided to die on. I say: Let him because in the long run the Wall will never be built; the particulars would be tied up in the courts for years at best.

This cathedral glorifying himself is one he will never live to see. And I wouldn't trust him with a five dollar bill, let alone $5 Billion, a figure that is a fraction of the project's estimated total cost.

Let Trumpski die on that hill. Then we can raise a cheer.

albacore

(2,399 posts)
7. An international treaty forbids building near the river....
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jan 2019

for a number of reasons. Floods change the river's location...

"The 1970 “Treaty to Resolve Pending Boundary Differences and Maintain the Rio Grande and Colorado River as the International Boundary” states that the joint U.S.-Mexico International Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC) “must approve construction of works proposed in either country” along those rivers. It explicitly prohibits the construction of projects “which, in the judgment of the commission, may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of the river or of its flood flows.”

he Arizona Daily Star reported in 2008, a 5-mile border fence constructed along Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument’s southern border “became a dam” during a flash flood that year.

A 17-page U.S. Interior Department report at the time concluded that because of the fencing, water that normally flowed north to south ended up flowing laterally. As the Daily Star summed it up: “A wash directly west of Lukeville flowed more than 200 feet along the fence and through the port of entry at the international border, causing flood damage to private property, government offices and businesses.”

And that was just a tiny fence during a relatively small flash flood. What happens when a barrier is built that has to withstand floods along the Rio Grande that are so vast they can be seen from outer space — like those from September 2008, captured by NASA’s Terra satellite?"

https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-plan-to-build-a-wall-in-the-rio-grande-floodplain-is-both-absurd-and-illegal-9b2fe78df789/

Hmmmm... where should we put that wall... hmmm....
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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
8. it wouldn't work. Wall would be just inside US with river between US and Mexico
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019

people would be free to cross river, walk on US soil and claim asylum... that thing that Trump hates.

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