Mueller: Paul Manafort Misled Federal Grand Jury on Trump Administration Contacts

[babylonsister]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-paul-manafort-misled-federal-grand-jury-on-trump-administration-contacts

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort corresponded with someone who had apparent access to President Trump while he was under investigation, even after he told Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigators and a federal grand jury he was not in contact with anyone in the Trump administration, Bloomberg reports. In court documents filed on Tuesday, prosecutors reportedly cited a May 26, 2018 text to Manafort by an unnamed individual who had access to Trump. “If I see POTUS one on one next week am I ok to remind him of our relationship?” the person wrote, according to the court filing. “Yes,” Manafort replied. “Even if not one on one.” Prosecutors reportedly outlined five areas on which Manafort misled investigators in the heavily redacted documents. Two others include Manafort’s contacts with Konstantin Kilimnik and a meeting Manafort had before he left the Trump campaign in August 2016. In the new filing, Mueller claims that Manafort communicated with Kilimnik—who is thought to be linked to Russian intelligence—between Aug. 2016 and Mar. 2018.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

1. Grrrrrr.

Nobody has beat Pauls ass in prison yet?

[manor321]

2. As Seth Abramson has been telling us for 2+ years. Manafort kept in contact with Trump.

Too bad the dipshit press kept reporting that he "left the campaign".

[erronis]

3. Agree. We need a fact-board about how to relate these news releases

Call them out each time. NYT, MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, etc. Wouldn't bother with the vomit-machines including the dump's twits.

[hughee99]

4. Does an "individual who had access to Trump" mean it's someone "in the Trump administration"?

nt

[Igel]

5. And "in contact with" is like "met with."

I ran into somebody in the hall yesterday I hadn't seen for a while. Call her Ms. X. Said "Hi, how're you doing--here for the day?" "Yeah." And I went back to my errand.

Next month would I say that "I was in contact with Ms. X last month"? No; I might say I "had contact with her," but that's a nuance that's too frequently inconvenient. I "met" her, but did I "meet with her" or "have a "meeting" with her?

I "spoke with her" but did I really "speak with her" in the sense of "consult"?

Words often have semantic ranges; if the range is too broad, they can drift away from each other and become homonyms.

A prosecutor will try to push the word's meaning into the part of the semantic range that builds his case; the defendant will try to argue the word's meaning is in the part of the semantic range that makes him innocent. Since we read, without the benefit of intonational contours, what is primarily spoken, we add in the intonations and pauses that match our particular internal spins.

So an "individual who had access to Trump" could be "in the Trump administration"; therefore the individual had to be.

It's like another post that used "enjoy his moment in the sun." Somebody interpreted "enjoy" as equivalent to "have a blast" because that's what "enjoy" can mean, "to take delight or pleasure in" (Google's definition). If you weren't familiar with the phrase, you wouldn't know that it's sardonic in part and contrasts with "be ignored" or "be dead", and the "enjoy" is so bleached as to just mean "have"--and, in fact, many times the phrase is "to have his moment in the sun". "Enjoy" can also mean "possess and benefit from"--same blip of Google definition for "enjoy". In context that's pretty obviously what it had to mean, as well--there was no other suggestion that the victims were otherwise partying on because of their victimhood.

The person who said it is like me--50s, college educated, middle-classish in background, meaning that we had to read a lot of stuff written before we were born in all kinds of situations that we'd never find ourselves in. The person who interpreted "enjoy" is younger, and would mostly have read a different class of literature and polemic. But for "enjoy" to just mean have wouldn't have reinforced what the tweeter already knew and was upset about. In other words, it wouldn't have built his case.

[hughee99]

6. Yes, I wonder if this is the reason the word misled is used

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Instead of “lied”.