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ffr

(22,672 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:38 AM Jan 2019

Malcolm Nance Drops Chilling Warning: Trump Could Be A 'Wholly Owned' Russian Agent



MSNBC counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance dropped a chilling warning on Monday night: Donald Trump could be a “wholly owned” Russian asset.

In an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, Nance laid out what he said could be the “worst case scenario” regarding Trump’s ties to Russia.

“The worst case scenario is that Donald Trump is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kremlin,” he said. “That he actually is not only in debt to the Kremlin. He is aware, it has been made clear to him that that debt is going to be used against him and it will be leveraged and that he will do the bidding of Vladimir Putin.”

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.@MalcolmNance says the "worst case scenario" regarding Trump's ties to Russia looks increasingly likely. #ctl #p2

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Malcolm Nance Drops Chilling Warning: Trump Could Be A 'Wholly Owned' Russian Agent (Original Post) ffr Jan 2019 OP
I don't know which part Cha Jan 2019 #1
Which has me questioning VP Pence's odd lying spree throughout. ffr Jan 2019 #3
".. odd lying spree.. " SYOA Cha Jan 2019 #4
We have known all along that Putin has a lot more than pee pee tapes. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #2
greed and narcissism Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #23
The president of the United States is a clear and present danger to the national security of the Uni Gothmog Jan 2019 #5
Yes. A clear and present danger. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #7
He's a danger to himself and others flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #8
Usually psychiatrists and psychologists bdamomma Jan 2019 #31
Signed sealed delivered. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #6
agree rufus dog Jan 2019 #9
They have owned him for years. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #10
Agree again rufus dog Jan 2019 #12
I know. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #13
Me either bdamomma Jan 2019 #32
I told my husband tonight -- Grammy23 Jan 2019 #11
I think McConnell is compromised rufus dog Jan 2019 #14
My point exactly. Grammy23 Jan 2019 #15
I don't think it's quite that simple...I think it's a matter of intersectionality anarch Jan 2019 #27
I agree. bdamomma Jan 2019 #33
Why doesn't the GOP congress act? Donors, and Fox. EndGOPPropaganda Jan 2019 #19
GD freaky times we're living through. C Moon Jan 2019 #16
Do you wonder if Individual-1 has an escape plan? ffr Jan 2019 #17
Putin at this point would never take them.. LOL pangaia Jan 2019 #21
Trump is useless to Putin the minute he is no longer POTUS renate Jan 2019 #22
In more than seven decades of life democrank Jan 2019 #18
+1000 ffr Jan 2019 #20
time to choose: traitors or patriots Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #24
I think if it's between us and them bdamomma Jan 2019 #34
And the submissive republican party is aiding and abetting Achilleaze Jan 2019 #25
+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #26
Malcolm Nance is a regular guest on MSNBC and he's always careful FakeNoose Jan 2019 #28
If trump is working directly for putin duforsure Jan 2019 #29
I would say yes he is working for Putin. bdamomma Jan 2019 #35
No need to qualify-- he's been owned by Putin for a long long time Hassler Jan 2019 #30

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
2. We have known all along that Putin has a lot more than pee pee tapes.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jan 2019

He likely has phone tapes, videos, recorded conversations and documents going back years and money deals that go back to the 80s.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
23. greed and narcissism
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:05 AM
Jan 2019

It wouldn't take pee tapes for TrumPutin; he's so full of himself, but stupid and ignorant, that all Putin had to do is dangle some bait and stroke that ego. Tapes and documents just make sure more damage can be done if dumb Donald steps out of line or outlives his usefulness.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
31. Usually psychiatrists and psychologists
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

with that understanding if a person is a threat to himself or others he is admitted into a psychiatric facility and treated. 25th Amendment is needed he is putting many people in harm's way.

Those who are NOT paying attention to what is going on are in for dangerous consequences.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
9. agree
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:24 AM
Jan 2019

Now a case could be made that we wasn't fully owned prior to becoming President. That is he thought his payback to Putin was weaken Hillary, create a great deal of division and hinder her with claims of a stolen election. Then Russia pulled off some election fraud, got dipshit Donnie installed as President. At that point it would become clear to anyone, even Donnie, that he was fully owned and was going to do exactly as told by Putin.

The irony is the Russians probably used the 2016 election illegalities to up the pressure on tRump.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
10. They have owned him for years.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:34 AM
Jan 2019

Years.

How do we get out of this before he destroys us all? I can't take much more of this.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
12. Agree again
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:55 AM
Jan 2019

I'm just saying he could try to claim that he wasn't owned prior to being elected. Post election, there is no way he didn't know he was fully owned.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
11. I told my husband tonight --
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:34 AM
Jan 2019

We need to pay attention — very closely. We are witnessing history and all these details that are seeping out will be important. We’ve all known that there was a reason behind the way tRump was behaving regarding Putin. All the talking heads did not want to admit what seems to be the case — Russia owns tRump. He has to do their bidding or they will spill the goods on him. Or worse. His narcissism allowed him to get caught up in a net that will be his undoing. He thinks he is so smart, so savvy to everything. But he underestimated Putin and over estimated himself.

It feels weird to know instinctively that we are witnessing something of epic proportions. The very foundation of this country will be tested like never before. Depending on how far the conspiracy goes, who knows if we can survive this take over. We’ve been counting on Congress to stop the madness and save us and the country but getting frustrated at their lack of action. The next logical question is why have they done nothing of substance? Has Putin infiltrated there, too?

This situation is going to get a lot more complicated before we know the answers. But lately things are coming out pretty thick and fast, so let us hope we have the answers soon.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
15. My point exactly.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:07 AM
Jan 2019

We should be screaming like stuck pigs about why are they slow walking everything? Why do they turn a blind eye to tRump’s crimes — the ones he is doing every day? Why are THEY not curious about the Russia connection?

We demand answers about tRump. But we also need answers to why certain congressmen seem to be as guilty as tRump for trying to squelch the truth from coming out.

Is it really as simple as Putin got to them as well??

anarch

(6,535 posts)
27. I don't think it's quite that simple...I think it's a matter of intersectionality
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:28 AM
Jan 2019

Let's face it, the GOP has not had the nation's best interests in mind for some considerable time...they might look at the opportunity to grab hold of the reins of power (and in their plan, I would think, do whatever you possibly can to hold on to it any way you can--packing the courts, suppressing votes, electoral fraud, whatever it takes--since the nation's changing demographics pretty clearly indicate that their white-peoples'-"Christian" party is basically on the way out.

I'm not saying a bunch of them don't also have compromising shit with the Russians, but I think mostly it's a matter of seeing an opportunity to pass whatever crazy legislation they could (i.e. the tax scam), and not being all too worried about any kind of actual concerns around, you know, the integrity of the nation, democracy, and so on...little stuff, for them. Their main concern is hanging onto power and keeping their wealthy donors happy. They don't, for the most part, really care if that means selling out their country.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
19. Why doesn't the GOP congress act? Donors, and Fox.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:44 AM
Jan 2019

The ROOT cause that the GOP is not acting to remove Trump is because they see this as a time to achieve their donors' long-planned agenda: destroy the government to cut taxes on the rich, and to install as many unqualified rightwing judges as possible.

If Trump is removed their agenda will get more difficult and their tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks, and partisan judges may all be viewed as illegitimate.

The current, short-term cause the GOP is not acting is that they need their base to get re-elected, and the base LOVES Trump because Fox and right-wing radio lionize him and demonize Democrats daily. They're afraid of Trump because they are afraid the GOP base will turn on them. The GOP thought they controlled Fox, but now they realize Fox controls them.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
17. Do you wonder if Individual-1 has an escape plan?
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:24 AM
Jan 2019

Will he and his family defect? If so, how do they plan on making their way to Russia without detection? They've served Mother Russia handsomely. I just wonder if they have an escape plan for exiting the country they've betrayed.

renate

(13,776 posts)
22. Trump is useless to Putin the minute he is no longer POTUS
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:02 AM
Jan 2019

He’s already divided and weakened America beyond what most of us would ever have imagined possible. Putin has already succeeded. At this point I have to wonder whether state secrets are all Trump has to offer. And once he’s no longer POTUS, if he were to apply for asylum Putin will be all “new phone, who dis?”

democrank

(11,109 posts)
18. In more than seven decades of life
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:28 AM
Jan 2019

I’ve never, ever seen such treachery. Trump and his enablers are a threat to us all.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
20. +1000
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:49 AM
Jan 2019

66+ million of your fellow Americans are aligned with the right side of this equation. Those 63 million voters on the other side have a choice to make about which side they choose to stand on. Do they stand with the United States or do they stand with the leaders of our principal foreign adversary? The time has come.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
24. time to choose: traitors or patriots
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:08 AM
Jan 2019

From tv to individuals, the time has come to choose sides -- democracy or dictators; traitors or patriots.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
34. I think if it's between us and them
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jan 2019

we will act, I don't know how, but we are sitting on a powder keg.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
25. And the submissive republican party is aiding and abetting
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:28 AM
Jan 2019

frigging republican traitors have disgraced themselves for all time by betraying America and American democracy.

FakeNoose

(32,772 posts)
28. Malcolm Nance is a regular guest on MSNBC and he's always careful
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:04 AM
Jan 2019

It's clear that he knows or suspects way more than he can say on camera, but the things he does say are sometimes chilling and a little terrifying. I don't know if he ever talks with Mueller's team (probably not) but it seems that he hears things from the intelligence community. I appreciate Mr. Nance's careful, thoughtful remarks because he doesn't go out on a limb just to get headlines. If he said it, you can take it to the bank!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
29. If trump is working directly for putin
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:05 AM
Jan 2019

Which will come out he was, he and his family should not be allowed to escape justice for it, period. No deals , or next time it'll be a lot worse.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
35. I would say yes he is working for Putin.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jan 2019

tRump is in way over his head, and putting us at risk.

for anyone to say he thought a Russian president was better than American President you can tell who his allegiance is to.

Hassler

(3,390 posts)
30. No need to qualify-- he's been owned by Putin for a long long time
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jan 2019

The rest of the GOP and the NRA he purchased more recently.

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