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MSNBC counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance dropped a chilling warning on Monday night: Donald Trump could be a wholly owned Russian asset.
In an interview with MSNBCs Chris Hayes, Nance laid out what he said could be the worst case scenario regarding Trumps ties to Russia.
The worst case scenario is that Donald Trump is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kremlin, he said. That he actually is not only in debt to the Kremlin. He is aware, it has been made clear to him that that debt is going to be used against him and it will be leveraged and that he will do the bidding of Vladimir Putin.
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.@MalcolmNance says the "worst case scenario" regarding Trump's ties to Russia looks increasingly likely. #ctl #p2
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Cha
(297,692 posts)of Puppetrump isn't "owned".
ffr
(22,672 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)Save your own ass?
BigmanPigman
(51,630 posts)He likely has phone tapes, videos, recorded conversations and documents going back years and money deals that go back to the 80s.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,439 posts)It wouldn't take pee tapes for TrumPutin; he's so full of himself, but stupid and ignorant, that all Putin had to do is dangle some bait and stroke that ego. Tapes and documents just make sure more damage can be done if dumb Donald steps out of line or outlives his usefulness.
Gothmog
(145,580 posts)sheshe2
(83,925 posts)It's chilling.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)bdamomma
(63,923 posts)with that understanding if a person is a threat to himself or others he is admitted into a psychiatric facility and treated. 25th Amendment is needed he is putting many people in harm's way.
Those who are NOT paying attention to what is going on are in for dangerous consequences.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)He is their man.
Owned.
Now a case could be made that we wasn't fully owned prior to becoming President. That is he thought his payback to Putin was weaken Hillary, create a great deal of division and hinder her with claims of a stolen election. Then Russia pulled off some election fraud, got dipshit Donnie installed as President. At that point it would become clear to anyone, even Donnie, that he was fully owned and was going to do exactly as told by Putin.
The irony is the Russians probably used the 2016 election illegalities to up the pressure on tRump.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)Years.
How do we get out of this before he destroys us all? I can't take much more of this.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)I'm just saying he could try to claim that he wasn't owned prior to being elected. Post election, there is no way he didn't know he was fully owned.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)I know, rufus.
I want him gone.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)this affects all of us.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)We need to pay attention very closely. We are witnessing history and all these details that are seeping out will be important. Weve all known that there was a reason behind the way tRump was behaving regarding Putin. All the talking heads did not want to admit what seems to be the case Russia owns tRump. He has to do their bidding or they will spill the goods on him. Or worse. His narcissism allowed him to get caught up in a net that will be his undoing. He thinks he is so smart, so savvy to everything. But he underestimated Putin and over estimated himself.
It feels weird to know instinctively that we are witnessing something of epic proportions. The very foundation of this country will be tested like never before. Depending on how far the conspiracy goes, who knows if we can survive this take over. Weve been counting on Congress to stop the madness and save us and the country but getting frustrated at their lack of action. The next logical question is why have they done nothing of substance? Has Putin infiltrated there, too?
This situation is going to get a lot more complicated before we know the answers. But lately things are coming out pretty thick and fast, so let us hope we have the answers soon.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)The entire WI Repub contingent, Ryan, Walker, Priebus.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)We should be screaming like stuck pigs about why are they slow walking everything? Why do they turn a blind eye to tRumps crimes the ones he is doing every day? Why are THEY not curious about the Russia connection?
We demand answers about tRump. But we also need answers to why certain congressmen seem to be as guilty as tRump for trying to squelch the truth from coming out.
Is it really as simple as Putin got to them as well??
anarch
(6,535 posts)Let's face it, the GOP has not had the nation's best interests in mind for some considerable time...they might look at the opportunity to grab hold of the reins of power (and in their plan, I would think, do whatever you possibly can to hold on to it any way you can--packing the courts, suppressing votes, electoral fraud, whatever it takes--since the nation's changing demographics pretty clearly indicate that their white-peoples'-"Christian" party is basically on the way out.
I'm not saying a bunch of them don't also have compromising shit with the Russians, but I think mostly it's a matter of seeing an opportunity to pass whatever crazy legislation they could (i.e. the tax scam), and not being all too worried about any kind of actual concerns around, you know, the integrity of the nation, democracy, and so on...little stuff, for them. Their main concern is hanging onto power and keeping their wealthy donors happy. They don't, for the most part, really care if that means selling out their country.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)this goes way back to Merrick Garland not being appointed.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)The ROOT cause that the GOP is not acting to remove Trump is because they see this as a time to achieve their donors' long-planned agenda: destroy the government to cut taxes on the rich, and to install as many unqualified rightwing judges as possible.
If Trump is removed their agenda will get more difficult and their tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks, and partisan judges may all be viewed as illegitimate.
The current, short-term cause the GOP is not acting is that they need their base to get re-elected, and the base LOVES Trump because Fox and right-wing radio lionize him and demonize Democrats daily. They're afraid of Trump because they are afraid the GOP base will turn on them. The GOP thought they controlled Fox, but now they realize Fox controls them.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)ffr
(22,672 posts)Will he and his family defect? If so, how do they plan on making their way to Russia without detection? They've served Mother Russia handsomely. I just wonder if they have an escape plan for exiting the country they've betrayed.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)Hes already divided and weakened America beyond what most of us would ever have imagined possible. Putin has already succeeded. At this point I have to wonder whether state secrets are all Trump has to offer. And once hes no longer POTUS, if he were to apply for asylum Putin will be all new phone, who dis?
democrank
(11,109 posts)Ive never, ever seen such treachery. Trump and his enablers are a threat to us all.
66+ million of your fellow Americans are aligned with the right side of this equation. Those 63 million voters on the other side have a choice to make about which side they choose to stand on. Do they stand with the United States or do they stand with the leaders of our principal foreign adversary? The time has come.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,439 posts)From tv to individuals, the time has come to choose sides -- democracy or dictators; traitors or patriots.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)we will act, I don't know how, but we are sitting on a powder keg.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)frigging republican traitors have disgraced themselves for all time by betraying America and American democracy.
Well stated.
FakeNoose
(32,772 posts)It's clear that he knows or suspects way more than he can say on camera, but the things he does say are sometimes chilling and a little terrifying. I don't know if he ever talks with Mueller's team (probably not) but it seems that he hears things from the intelligence community. I appreciate Mr. Nance's careful, thoughtful remarks because he doesn't go out on a limb just to get headlines. If he said it, you can take it to the bank!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Which will come out he was, he and his family should not be allowed to escape justice for it, period. No deals , or next time it'll be a lot worse.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)tRump is in way over his head, and putting us at risk.
for anyone to say he thought a Russian president was better than American President you can tell who his allegiance is to.
Hassler
(3,390 posts)The rest of the GOP and the NRA he purchased more recently.