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NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
4. I judge people for the choices they made as adults
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

And not for how they acted under the direction of fundie parents years ago when most politicians didn't support gay marriage.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
8. 2004 she was an adult
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jan 2019

She has done nothing since then other than support others bills - she needs to put the work in to reduce stigma and damage she cause LGBT persons- she hasn’t done this because she relieves gay karate is wrong (personally). She’s still a bigot and this gay man will never vote for a bigot.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
11. She has no chance to be nominated.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jan 2019

I only know that fundie parents can really fuck up a kids head. I wonder if she's fully deprogrammed yet. I consider Dick Cheney to be an bad person, but at least he acknowledges his daughters existence and feels for her like a parent should. I have watched fundies disown their gay child and to this day pretend they are dead or were never born. Fundies are the most disgusting creatures in this world.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
5. Here's what her aunt reportedly has to say about her:
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:49 PM
Jan 2019
The Real Tulsi Gabbard

As Representative Tulsi Gabbard’s aunt, it gives me no pleasure to publicly air my doubts regarding my niece’s political agenda, which Kelefa Sanneh describes in his Profile (“Against the Tide,” November 6th). However, I take my role as a citizen seriously, and I would be remiss not to share my concerns. Sanneh raises the issue of Gabbard’s lifelong immersion in the Science of Identity Foundation, an opaque religious organization that she and its founder, Chris Butler, have attempted to reframe as a “resource.” Gabbard’s answer to a basic question about Butler is troubling: despite calling him her “guru dev” (spiritual master) in her own promotional video, she denies that he is more important than any of her other teachers. She also has a notably mixed voting record, and associations that veer from certain progressive causes to the apparent courting of such strongmen as Narendra Modi, Bashar al-Assad, and Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (not to mention Trump)—this zigzagging path through positions is vexing. Sanneh’s article walks the fine line of investigation and exposition in a way that points to shadows worthy of further illumination.

Caroline Sinavaiana Gabbard

Honolulu, Hawaii


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/letters-from-the-november-20-2017-issue/amp

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
7. When I was 17
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:18 PM
Jan 2019

The same age as Tulsi was in that video, I thought the Vietnam War was a good idea. As an adult, I have changed my mind.

I’d vote for Tulsi.

Who’s opposition research dug up that video?

obamanut2012

(26,083 posts)
9. She was in her 20s, she was not a minor
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:42 PM
Jan 2019

The video is from 2004, Gabbard is 37. Now, my degree is in History and not math, but 37 minus 14 or 15 is not 17.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
10. The Hawaii LGBT Democratic Caucus calls out Gabbard..
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:08 PM
Jan 2019




"Earlier in Gabbard's career, Jacobin reported that she was anti-choice and in favor of a constitutional amendment that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. She also argued that Democrats "should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," per Jacobin.

snip//

This shift in her views, however, was not enough to earn her an endorsement from Hawaii's LGBT Caucus. According to Maui Time Weekly, the caucus did not endorse Gabbard in her 2016 Congressional race, arguing that Gabbard still personally opposed same-sex marriage even if she abstained from taking political action on it. The caucus cited a 2015 interview that Gabbard had done with Ozy, in which she stated that she did not want to emulate a theocratic government “imposing its will” on its people.

https://www.bustle.com/p/tulsi-gabbards-lgbtq-views-have-reportedly-changed-over-time-but-many-say-thats-not-enough-15794044

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
13. I have the same concerns about Gabbard that I have about Donald Trump. Despite her trying to...
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jan 2019

position herself as some populist progressive, I would be concerned that she would be acting on behalf of foreign actors as opposed to our interests.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
16. I realized Tulsi Gabbard was anti-gay, but didn't quite realize how anti-gay she was in the 2000s
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jan 2019


"Earlier in Gabbard's career, Jacobin reported that she was anti-choice and in favor of a constitutional amendment that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. She also argued that Democrats "should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," per Jacobin.

snip//

This shift in her views, however, was not enough to earn her an endorsement from Hawaii's LGBT Caucus. According to Maui Time Weekly, the caucus did not endorse Gabbard in her 2016 Congressional race, arguing that Gabbard still personally opposed same-sex marriage even if she abstained from taking political action on it. The caucus cited a 2015 interview that Gabbard had done with Ozy, in which she stated that she did not want to emulate a theocratic government “imposing its will” on its people.

https://www.bustle.com/p/tulsi-gabbards-lgbtq-views-have-reportedly-changed-over-time-but-many-say-thats-not-enough-15794044

She likes that word "extremely". Thank Goodness the LGBT coalition persevered in spite of those like Gabbard.
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