Jane, you ignorant slut.

[TNNurse]

just watched Margaret Brennan interview Mike Pompeo on Face the Nation. He said her name is about every other reply. When my husband walked it I asked him why that pissed me off. His reply was "he is being condescending". I realized that I expected to hear Dan Akyroyd say "Jane, you ignorant slut" at any moment.

[jcgoldie]

1. Didn't catch it...

Hope she held his feet to the fire a little bit. In general, watching her I've felt her interviews have tended to normalize the Trumpers. Dickerson was a much tougher interviewer.

[Igel]

2. It depends.

On the person involved, tone of voice, what's being said.

We're taught to use a person's name a lot in conversation. It has a lot of purposes. Not just one. Some people do this kind of crap naturally. Others are taught to do it; others are told and don't really learn how to do it. It can be manipulative. It can be solidarity building. Tone of voice is usually what adds condescension. Or doing it gracelessly enough that it sounds like a used car salesman--but they're not condescending, they're manipulative. (Some people don't distinguish the two.)

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/using_a_persons_name_in_conversation is scraping the surface.

http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversation/name/using_name.htm says the same thing and either has a source in common with the msu.edu link or pirated it.

I personally find it condescending all the time. I also find that that ranges wildly, and I know people who aren't condescending who use this technique constantly. It's easy to misinterpret. (And anybody who misinterprets immediately backs up and says, "I don't do that! I know what I heard!" When my students tell me that, I correct them to, "You mean to say, 'You know what you perceived. All you heard were sounds at different pitches and volumes. The speaker intended something, you inferred something, the question is always whether they were the same somethings'." #understanding, #empathy, #humility)

[smirkymonkey]

13. I can't stand it when people use my name a lot in conversation. Particularly if they don't

know me well. Like you, I always find it condescending and manipulative. As soon as I hear a person say my name, this little switch goes off in my brain "Oh, here comes the bullshit..."

[floppyboo]

3. wait: you asked your husband what You were feeling?

condensation is insidious Edit: haha - spell check: condescension!

[TNNurse]

4. I just wanted another opinion.

Was I just judging what he was saying because I despise anyone who works for Trump???

[floppyboo]

6. Fair enough! We are living in troubling times!

I am constantly asking myself what's real and what's conspiracy these days. Sorry that I reacted instinctively to my triggers on male domination. Sounds like you have a loving partner that cares about you.

[TNNurse]

8. Married 40 years in May so it has worked well.

[Bettie]

5. I ask my husband for an opinion on why

things bug me sometimes. He's known me for over 30 years and sometimes he can figure out why something makes me angry when I'm not sure why it is.

He asks me the same question regularly.

[Mme. Defarge]

7. He left out "misguided".

[woofless]

11. I remember it as

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"Jane, you incredibly ignorant slut."

[Mme. Defarge]

14. This is the episode that's seared in my memory.

Dan Aykroyd: Tonight on “Point/Counterpoint”, Jane and I will argue Federal Aid for Abortions. Jane will take the Point for Federal Aid, and I will take the Counterpoint against. Jane?
Jane Curtin: Safe abortions have always been available to the rich, Dan. You simply want to deny them to the poor, and if you succeed, poor woman will be forced to get them anyway. They’ll beforced into the alleys with hangers, plungers and vacuum cleaners, risking death or mutilation. But you’d like that, wouldn’t you, Dan, you sadistic, elitist, sexist, racist, anti-humanist pig!

Dan Aykroyd: Jane, you ignorant, misguided slut! Once again, you missed the point entirely. [ enraged ] Why should I pay hard-earned dollars so welfare tarts can have sex anytime they want, without regards to consequences? Haven’t these bimbos heard of abstinence? I, myself, haven’t had sex for two years – and I’m rich! Why should I foot the bill for killing unborn infants, anyway? I’ll pay for something practical like sterilization – but abortions? Never! With one exception – if I had been around when your mother was having you, not only would I have paid for the abortion, but I would have performed it myself!

Jane Curtin: Thank you, Dan.

[trueblue2007]

15. it is JANE, YOU IGNORANT SLUT.

it is JANE ...... YOU IGNORANT SLUT

[Snarkoleptic]

9. I just watched it on DVR and was giving Mrs. Snark the thumbnail sketch version, then saw this post.

I used the terms dismissive and condescending (he barely restrained himself short of sneering condescension).

Here's a decent article on Pompeo and his extremist views-
https://medium.com/@yewtree2/americans-meet-your-new-authoritarian-evangelical-islamophobic-misogynistic-trump-loving-9a7f840c0a8c

Americans, Meet Your New Authoritarian, Evangelical, Islamophobic, Misogynistic, Trump-loving, Apocalypse-yearning Secretary of State

‘Pompeo is a deeply conservative evangelical Christian who has said, “America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle.” He believes politics is “a never-ending struggle . . . until the rapture.” He does not sound like the type of person one normally associates with the intelligence community. But this is Trump’s administration, and Trump has promised to shake things up. An apocalyptic Islamophobic fanatic at the head of CIA will no doubt bring change to the agency.’ (Heather Digby Parton, ‘Meet Mike Pompeo, the far-right Christian zealot with Islamophobe ties who will lead Trump’s CIA: Rep. Mike Pompeo is a Rapture-believing evangelical who sees “radical Islam” at work in small-town America,’ Salon, Jan. 13, 2017.)

That’s why the Evangelical Far-Right doesn’t care about any of the Russian allegations. They have bigger fish to fry, they think, like fighting and killing Muslims, awaiting the Rapture, and looking forward to Holy War and Armageddon, which they believe is imminent. They believe they, and the American Religious Alt-Right, are serving a ‘higher agenda’ — that being God’s cause against Muslims, religious infidels, and ideological ‘Others.’ Not realizing that Islam actually IS a Judeo-Christian religion, by definition, they are happy to think of themselves and their president as working with Orthodox Russia and ‘devout’ Putin to bring about the Apocalypse so as to realize ‘God’s Kingdom on Earth’ in its aftermath, as prophesied in The Revelations of John.

[TNNurse]

10. After Pompeo she had Kevin McCarthy

I switched channels. She should not have two such assholes in a row to interview.

[Apollyonus]

12. Oh ... I thought this thread was about ....

never mind.

[LakeSuperiorView]

16. Watched it. He didn't answer any of her questions.

It was all saying her name, "make no mistake", and right wing talking points. He was talking flat and fast, I've seen more life out of steaks in my freezer. Don't know if he was practicing counter interrogation techniques or what, but he didn't want to be there.

And McCarthy... Lying SOB. He dared to claim that he was "of the party of Lincoln", while disclaiming Steve King of Iowa. Steve King represents the current Republican party, which has absolutely nothing to do with Lincoln. They split from him 80 years ago.